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  1. Jul 02 08:33:40 <gonzobot> (captainmeta4) http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-055 -- SCP-055 - SCP Foundation: "Jul 26, 2014 ... Security guards are NOT to be posted outside SCP-055's room. It is further advised that all personnel maintaining or studying other..."
  2. Jul 02 09:10:02 <x316nuts> https://www.reddit.com/user/al_mashuk what are they posting an image of?
  3. Jul 02 09:12:26 <lucastars> it says "please ban me I download childporn"
  4. Jul 02 09:12:31 <lucastars> i don't know
  5. Jul 02 09:31:17 <captainmeta4> when I was young, I made up an alphabet like that
  6. Jul 02 09:31:27 <captainmeta4> I still remember most of it too
  7. Jul 02 09:40:45 <captainmeta4> except it was phonetic
  8. Jul 02 09:47:09 * cwenham predicts that after a few centuries of ubiquitous e-paper technology, our alphabet will evolve to include animated letters. The first will be the "effyouglyph", which is a hand extending the middle finger and bouncing up and down.
  9. Jul 02 11:15:40 <captainmeta4> has anybody here ever done anything wit heat transfer for a cylinder in angled crossflow
  10. Jul 02 11:16:00 <captainmeta4> I cannot find an empirical correlation for the nusselt number for that scenario
  11. Jul 02 11:16:04 <captainmeta4> to save my life
  12. Jul 02 11:17:17 <TheCat5001> what are you doing?
  13. Jul 02 11:29:45 <Cylon> no but i have played with spiders
  14. Jul 02 11:40:29 <XenoBen> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI6zbY8WwAArRep.png
  15. Jul 02 12:06:01 <creesch> https://www.reddit.com/r/companion/comments/3bvvqu/i_made_an_updated_working_version_of_reddit/
  16. Jul 02 12:06:01 <gonzobot> (creesch) I made an updated working version of reddit companion : companion - 0 comments, 1 point - creesch, 1m ago
  17. Jul 02 12:07:47 <Soul_Shot> wut dat
  18. Jul 02 12:11:01 <creesch> Soul_Shot: working version of companion :p which is a nice toolbar for reddit.
  19. Jul 02 12:11:34 <Soul_Shot> oh I didn't even see that
  20. Jul 02 12:11:37 <creesch> Reddit once made it and then like a ton of their projects they forgot about it.
  21. Jul 02 12:11:37 <Soul_Shot> I was looking on reddit itself
  22. Jul 02 12:13:31 <Soul_Shot> I'm still waiting for my share of Reddit Notes
  23. Jul 02 12:13:57 <XenoBen> didnt they can it?
  24. Jul 02 12:18:19 <creesch> That's the joke
  25. Jul 02 12:18:26 <Soul_Shot> .lenny
  26. Jul 02 12:18:26 <gonzobot> ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
  27. Jul 02 12:19:19 <creesch> Anyway, companion is pretty cool
  28. Jul 02 12:19:55 <creesch> But somehow they decided to abandon it except that they keep it on the Chrome store. Which is silly since it is utterly broken.
  29. Jul 02 12:24:55 <Soul_Shot> I imagine it has something to do with them not really caring
  30. Jul 02 12:25:12 <Soul_Shot> too busy deleting fph subs and whatnot
  31. Jul 02 12:25:28 <Soul_Shot> I sent them in a ring of like 10 websites that keep spamming my sub
  32. Jul 02 12:25:32 <Soul_Shot> and so far no response
  33. Jul 02 12:25:36 <Soul_Shot> like 4 days and counting
  34. Jul 02 12:25:56 <creesch> I didn't mind them doing that, but looking at the history of this stuff they once had a bunch of awesome projects like this that would actually make Reddit better
  35. Jul 02 12:26:07 <Cylon> https://i.imgur.com/cSptDFS.jpg
  36. Jul 02 12:26:09 <creesch> Removing fph that is
  37. Jul 02 12:26:20 <creesch> I do mind them ignoring mail
  38. Jul 02 12:26:52 <Soul_Shot> Yeah, it was like a ciss of toxicity and harassment just waiting to be popped
  39. Jul 02 12:27:02 <Soul_Shot> People complain about coontown and whatnot
  40. Jul 02 12:27:20 <Soul_Shot> but you really can't compare 10,000~ subs with very little activity
  41. Jul 02 12:27:33 <Soul_Shot> vs 170k+ that regularily brings like pictures of dead obese people in a morgue
  42. Jul 02 12:27:36 <Soul_Shot> to the top of /r/all
  43. Jul 02 12:49:22 <captainmeta4> Soul_Shot if you don't get a reply after 4 days then bump the thread
  44. Jul 02 12:50:19 <Soul_Shot> I've bumped it like 3 times
  45. Jul 02 12:50:19 <Soul_Shot> :(
  46. Jul 02 13:08:23 <Meneth> 503--
  47. Jul 02 13:08:56 <Soul_Shot> victoria is kill
  48. Jul 02 13:09:17 <greatyellowshark> 503 all morning
  49. Jul 02 13:09:20 <straightouttasweden> a
  50. Jul 02 13:13:38 <allthefoxes> 503--
  51. Jul 02 13:13:38 <kerovon> Have we heard any reasons why victoria was let go?
  52. Jul 02 13:13:47 <allthefoxes> didnt move to sf
  53. Jul 02 13:14:25 <kerovon> Is that official? I head she was getting a waiver on that because she had more work to do in NY than SF. It also seems like she had no advance notice.
  54. Jul 02 13:16:10 <werner__herzog> rip
  55. Jul 02 13:16:16 <werner__herzog> chooter
  56. Jul 02 13:17:11 <werner__herzog> woah, iama is private
  57. Jul 02 13:17:55 <kerovon> Yeah, that is going to cause some ripples
  58. Jul 02 13:18:00 <kerovon> they did it almost immediately
  59. Jul 02 13:20:10 <kerovon> This is also scuttling a major AMA that science was working on. Much bigger than the monsanto one.
  60. Jul 02 13:20:57 <Flashynuff> maybe all the mods of subreddits who were doing amas should go private
  61. Jul 02 13:32:49 <JustPassingThrough> iama pls explain
  62. Jul 02 13:33:17 <x316nuts> https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq204d
  63. Jul 02 13:33:17 <gonzobot> (x316nuts) Why has R/Iama been set to private? : OutOfTheLoop - 28 comments, 32 points - chickenmagic, 30m ago
  64. Jul 02 13:33:20 <JustPassingThrough> paradox's secret anti karmanaut contingency plan finally succeeded didnt it
  65. Jul 02 13:33:32 <Paradox> i told you guys
  66. Jul 02 13:33:38 <Paradox> and you laughed at me
  67. Jul 02 13:33:43 <Paradox> now who'se laughing
  68. Jul 02 13:34:37 <JustPassingThrough> i mean im still laughing
  69. Jul 02 13:34:54 <JustPassingThrough> i dont knwo what happened with you two but karmanaut always had an ego
  70. Jul 02 13:35:23 <Soul_Shot> agentlame: x_minus_one elfa82
  71. Jul 02 13:35:27 <Soul_Shot> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA - https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/3btfd0/supreme_court_upholds_use_of_controversial/csq1qzi
  72. Jul 02 13:35:28 <gonzobot> (Soul_Shot) Supreme Court upholds use of controversial execution drug : nottheonion - 3 comments, 0 points - reddit_the_joke, 17h ago
  73. Jul 02 13:38:25 <supergauntlet> allthefoxes: this is hilarious
  74. Jul 02 13:38:43 <supergauntlet> they just let her go with no advance notice to any of the mods of any of the iama subs
  75. Jul 02 13:38:55 <supergauntlet> and were just like 'xd figure it out shitters NOT OUR PROBLEM'
  76. Jul 02 13:39:00 <Paradox> JustPassingThrough basically i just called him out on his ego here once publicly
  77. Jul 02 13:39:03 <Paradox> and someone tattled on me
  78. Jul 02 13:39:06 <Cylon> did SHE even have notice
  79. Jul 02 13:39:10 <Paradox> and he ran a kangaroo court and demodded me
  80. Jul 02 13:39:40 <JustPassingThrough> kangaroo are cute tho
  81. Jul 02 13:39:48 <kerovon> I don't think she had any advance notice.
  82. Jul 02 13:40:16 <supergauntlet> thats pretty shitty
  83. Jul 02 13:40:21 <captainmeta4> kerovon probably not
  84. Jul 02 13:40:28 <captainmeta4> in USA you usually don't get advance notice
  85. Jul 02 13:40:29 <allthefoxes> OH
  86. Jul 02 13:40:30 <allthefoxes> WAIT
  87. Jul 02 13:40:31 <supergauntlet> i feel like if she did she would have told /r/iama
  88. Jul 02 13:40:35 <supergauntlet> at the very least
  89. Jul 02 13:40:36 <allthefoxes> THAT VICTORIA?
  90. Jul 02 13:40:38 <supergauntlet> yes
  91. Jul 02 13:40:39 <supergauntlet> that victoria
  92. Jul 02 13:40:40 <kerovon> Yeah, that victoria
  93. Jul 02 13:40:41 <allthefoxes> HOLY FUVK
  94. Jul 02 13:40:42 <captainmeta4> allthefoxes yes, /u/chooter
  95. Jul 02 13:40:45 <kerovon> science is pissed as well
  96. Jul 02 13:40:50 <allthefoxes> I was thinking of the wrong victoria
  97. Jul 02 13:40:51 <captainmeta4> allthefoxes https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq204d
  98. Jul 02 13:40:52 <gonzobot> (captainmeta4) Why has R/Iama been set to private? : OutOfTheLoop - 63 comments, 54 points - chickenmagic, 37m ago
  99. Jul 02 13:41:39 <werner__herzog> hmm, I think I need to turn of my outoftheloop ping for this evening
  100. Jul 02 13:42:15 <supergauntlet> Why is werner__herzog so cool? : OutOfTheLoop
  101. Jul 02 13:42:18 <JustPassingThrough> allthefoxes queen victoria has been dead for a very long time hun
  102. Jul 02 13:42:24 <allthefoxes> :(
  103. Jul 02 13:42:28 <supergauntlet> rip
  104. Jul 02 13:42:45 <Paradox> i liked working with victoria
  105. Jul 02 13:42:49 <Paradox> but i dont like karmanaut
  106. Jul 02 13:42:52 <Paradox> c'est la vie
  107. Jul 02 13:43:14 <Cylon> maybe voat will hire her and you can move there paradox
  108. Jul 02 13:44:24 <Paradox> lol fuck voat
  109. Jul 02 13:44:29 <Paradox> voat is run worse than reddit
  110. Jul 02 13:47:33 <Cylon> yeah but
  111. Jul 02 13:47:37 <Cylon> Paradox think about it
  112. Jul 02 13:47:40 <Cylon> no karmanaut
  113. Jul 02 13:49:00 <Paradox> yeah but…bitcoiners, r/conspiracy, and self-hating fat people
  114. Jul 02 13:49:09 <Paradox> thats pretty much voats entire userbase
  115. Jul 02 13:49:19 <Paradox> those combined make a pretty close approximation of karmanaut
  116. Jul 02 13:57:04 <allthefoxes> jesus
  117. Jul 02 13:57:05 <allthefoxes> fucking
  118. Jul 02 13:57:06 <allthefoxes> christ
  119. Jul 02 13:57:08 <allthefoxes> undelete
  120. Jul 02 13:57:08 <allthefoxes> https://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/comments/3bw49n/riama_set_to_private_after_cnn_journalist/
  121. Jul 02 13:57:09 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) /r/IAmA set to private after CNN journalist receives less than... : undelete - 15 comments, 5 points - Ayy_1mao, 46m ago
  122. Jul 02 13:58:11 <cwenham> g01dfysh strikes again.
  123. Jul 02 14:08:15 <captainmeta4> lol
  124. Jul 02 14:17:56 <werner__herzog> relevant user name
  125. Jul 02 14:25:13 <XenoBen> why iama ded?
  126. Jul 02 14:25:30 <cwenham> https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq204d
  127. Jul 02 14:25:31 <gonzobot> (cwenham) Why has R/Iama been set to private? : OutOfTheLoop - 272 comments, 318 points - chickenmagic, 1h ago
  128. Jul 02 14:25:37 <XenoBen> thanks
  129. Jul 02 14:25:53 <XenoBen> victoria left?
  130. Jul 02 14:26:40 <cwenham> According to the story, fired.
  131. Jul 02 14:27:01 <XenoBen> ouch
  132. Jul 02 14:27:36 <cwenham> But of course, we're only seeing one side of the story with that karmanaut post, so yada yada.
  133. Jul 02 14:27:59 <XenoBen> Will reddit do a announcement?
  134. Jul 02 14:28:06 <cwenham> Dunno.
  135. Jul 02 14:28:21 <cwenham> We're mushrooms right now :-)
  136. Jul 02 14:30:32 <JustPassingThrough> this is so dumb
  137. Jul 02 14:30:52 <JustPassingThrough> we should go out of our way to blame pao for it tho so we can win back the users affection
  138. Jul 02 14:30:55 <Cylon> XenoBen, they didn't the last few times admins got fired/left
  139. Jul 02 14:31:08 <JustPassingThrough> yeah but they should have for them too
  140. Jul 02 14:31:10 <XenoBen> This had shut a big sub tho
  141. Jul 02 14:31:24 <Cylon> they definitely should have
  142. Jul 02 14:31:30 <XenoBen> She was pretty crucial for iama to work.
  143. Jul 02 14:31:35 <Cylon> also
  144. Jul 02 14:31:38 <Cylon> !comic
  145. Jul 02 14:31:38 <cwenham> A big sub with a custom app. Is the app broken now, too?
  146. Jul 02 14:31:41 <weeedbot> Cylon: http://i.imgur.com/kfdhYwu.jpg
  147. Jul 02 14:32:00 <Cylon> welcome back weeedbutt
  148. Jul 02 14:32:17 <XenoBen> why am i a frog
  149. Jul 02 14:32:21 <XenoBen> and nice comictitle
  150. Jul 02 14:32:38 <Soul_Shot> was that app official btw?
  151. Jul 02 14:33:03 <Cylon> yeah
  152. Jul 02 14:33:43 <Soul_Shot> rofl
  153. Jul 02 14:38:33 <allthefoxes> https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq4hsb
  154. Jul 02 14:38:33 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) Why has R/Iama been set to private? : OutOfTheLoop - 359 comments, 438 points - chickenmagic, 1h ago
  155. Jul 02 14:38:34 <allthefoxes> pls
  156. Jul 02 14:41:04 <Meneth> Why is there nothing on SRD about it?
  157. Jul 02 14:42:04 <allthefoxes> theres basically no drama
  158. Jul 02 14:42:13 <allthefoxes> everyone has the same opinion right now
  159. Jul 02 14:42:16 <allthefoxes> "What the shit'
  160. Jul 02 14:42:30 <Meneth> There will inevitably *be* drama though.
  161. Jul 02 14:42:37 <geraldo> they removed the post
  162. Jul 02 14:42:41 <geraldo> because they're bad mods
  163. Jul 02 14:42:54 <Meneth> I mean, I could see replacing it with a mod-run self-post so that it actually gets updated.
  164. Jul 02 14:43:17 <geraldo> no they removed it for lack of drama
  165. Jul 02 14:43:22 <geraldo> it's one of the new mods
  166. Jul 02 14:43:37 <geraldo> there is a post about it in /r/drama though
  167. Jul 02 14:43:39 <geraldo> if you're interested
  168. Jul 02 14:43:46 <Meneth> Yes. What I'm saying is it'd make sense to remove so a mod-run post could take its place, but removing it wholesale is just dumb.
  169. Jul 02 14:44:26 <werner__herzog> but wouldn't this go under "dramatic happening"?
  170. Jul 02 14:44:34 <Meneth> Exactly.
  171. Jul 02 14:45:49 <geraldo> they have some bad mods
  172. Jul 02 14:46:14 <geraldo> that's the problem with modding people that suck up to you and really want to mod a subreddit
  173. Jul 02 14:46:21 <geraldo> you create this awful mod culture
  174. Jul 02 14:46:45 <geraldo> where people make terrible modding decisions because they're trying to fit in
  175. Jul 02 14:46:49 <werner__herzog> allthefoxes: I'm gonna have to ban you for insulting our users :D.
  176. Jul 02 14:47:01 <allthefoxes> ban me good baby
  177. Jul 02 14:47:10 <allthefoxes> TehAlpacalypse, Treebeast doing 5% of my dps at level 148
  178. Jul 02 14:47:12 <allthefoxes> fuck yeah
  179. Jul 02 14:47:16 * cwenham wonders where to put the comma in "ban me good baby"
  180. Jul 02 14:47:27 <allthefoxes> after good
  181. Jul 02 14:47:29 <cwenham> Could go anywhere, really.
  182. Jul 02 14:47:29 <allthefoxes> my bad
  183. Jul 02 14:47:43 <cwenham> "Arr! Ban, me good baby!"
  184. Jul 02 14:47:44 <werner__herzog> ban, me good baby
  185. Jul 02 14:47:47 <werner__herzog> sounds weird
  186. Jul 02 14:48:02 <allthefoxes> lol
  187. Jul 02 14:52:00 <TehAlpacalypse> allthefoxes: Terraria?
  188. Jul 02 14:52:15 <cwenham> Avast, ye scurvy landlubbers.
  189. Jul 02 15:00:43 <x_minus_one> why is iama private?
  190. Jul 02 15:00:56 <Meneth> See OutOfTheLoop or SRD.
  191. Jul 02 15:00:58 <cwenham> https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq204d
  192. Jul 02 15:01:00 <gonzobot> (cwenham) Why has R/Iama been set to private? : OutOfTheLoop - 517 comments, 729 points - chickenmagic, 1h ago
  193. Jul 02 15:01:06 <x_minus_one> k
  194. Jul 02 15:01:16 <x_minus_one> aww :(
  195. Jul 02 15:01:19 <cwenham> Reddit let Victoria go.
  196. Jul 02 15:01:47 <x_minus_one> that's sad
  197. Jul 02 15:01:59 <x_minus_one> should have let ellen pao go
  198. Jul 02 15:02:02 <Meneth> It seems it was rather sudden too.
  199. Jul 02 15:02:37 <x_minus_one> wonder how that breaks the iama app
  200. Jul 02 15:02:54 <Cylon> x_minus_one, i would imagine completely
  201. Jul 02 15:03:02 <andytuba> nothing loads
  202. Jul 02 15:03:09 <andytuba> it just shows the loading snoo
  203. Jul 02 15:03:13 <andytuba> so ... it fails gracefully
  204. Jul 02 15:03:15 <x_minus_one> that app fucking sucks anyway, can't make it any worse
  205. Jul 02 15:03:25 <joyouscacophony> Is that a challenge?
  206. Jul 02 15:03:26 <andytuba> it wasn't that bad of an app for noobs
  207. Jul 02 15:03:40 <andytuba> if you just want to catch up on some interesting celeb Q&A then it's fine
  208. Jul 02 15:03:53 <andytuba> if you want to actually interact like a poweruser then get a regular third-party app
  209. Jul 02 15:06:08 <vertexoflife> i wonder why they fired victoria :(
  210. Jul 02 15:06:11 <allthefoxes> its one of these days http://i.imgur.com/ypCSG4i.jpg
  211. Jul 02 15:07:02 <joyouscacophony> what's the over/under on direct conflict with chairman pao vertexoflife?
  212. Jul 02 15:07:30 <Meneth> If I had to take a wild guess, it was a relocation issue again.
  213. Jul 02 15:07:46 <allthefoxes> chooter lives in SFF tho
  214. Jul 02 15:07:46 <vertexoflife> joyouscacophony what are you talking about?
  215. Jul 02 15:07:47 <joyouscacophony> So, indirect conflict
  216. Jul 02 15:07:52 <Meneth> Virtually all the admins are on the West coast, while Victoria is in New York apparently.
  217. Jul 02 15:08:18 <joyouscacophony> vertexoflife - I was implying that Victoria was let go over issues with Pao
  218. Jul 02 15:08:45 <joyouscacophony> Probably, Meneth - Stupid policy
  219. Jul 02 15:08:50 <Meneth> It is.
  220. Jul 02 15:08:56 <allthefoxes> really? I was under the assumption she traveled to NY when needed, but was located in SF with the rest of the crew
  221. Jul 02 15:08:58 <Meneth> For one, such a big site needs a timezone spread.
  222. Jul 02 15:09:02 <allthefoxes> maybe it was the other way around
  223. Jul 02 15:09:13 <Meneth> No clue. People have mentioned her being in NY tho.
  224. Jul 02 15:09:24 <vertexoflife> idk I think that's a silly assumption with no knowledge or data
  225. Jul 02 15:09:52 <Meneth> Referring to joyouscacophony's Pao idea, or my relocation idea? Or both?
  226. Jul 02 15:09:54 <andytuba> Meneth: i think some of the newer community managers are in other time zones? don't trust my word for it, though, check the team page
  227. Jul 02 15:09:54 <cwenham> AMA app just says "Wow, such empty"
  228. Jul 02 15:10:07 <Meneth> They've laid of people who can't relocate in the past, so that at least seems plausible.
  229. Jul 02 15:10:13 <Meneth> s/of/off
  230. Jul 02 15:10:14 <gonzobot> Correction, <Meneth> They've laid off people who can't relocate in the past, so that at least seems plausible.
  231. Jul 02 15:10:40 <Flashynuff> But on the spot, with 0 communication with the mod teams?
  232. Jul 02 15:11:00 <Flashynuff> If that was why, they implemented their decision horribly.
  233. Jul 02 15:11:12 <Flashynuff> Which I suppose is par for the course with reddit.
  234. Jul 02 15:12:16 <joyouscacophony> It may be a silly assumption vertexoflife, but I'd still be willing to bet it was either conflict of opinion with the pao regime or a direct consequence of a pao regime policy
  235. Jul 02 15:17:02 <allthefoxes> https://twitter.com/edfrenkel is pretty pissed at iama
  236. Jul 02 15:17:02 <allthefoxes> lol
  237. Jul 02 15:18:15 <joyouscacophony> Rightfully so
  238. Jul 02 15:18:28 <joyouscacophony> I'm just getting up to speed on this whole drama
  239. Jul 02 15:19:28 <allthefoxes> Someone might say that Victoria was...
  240. Jul 02 15:19:30 <allthefoxes> Kung Pao'd
  241. Jul 02 15:19:35 <allthefoxes> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
  242. Jul 02 15:19:42 <allthefoxes> (credit: some dude in ootl)
  243. Jul 02 15:19:56 <Gaget> reddit let Victoria go?
  244. Jul 02 15:20:01 <Gaget> What the shit?
  245. Jul 02 15:20:03 <cwenham> One possibly bad decision—pending more information—has led to another bad decision that we know about. It'd probably be best to simply put the sub into "Self Posts: all" on the spam-filter instead of taking it private.
  246. Jul 02 15:20:04 <Flashynuff> even if it was a disagreement with Pao, firing her on the spot was an awful move.
  247. Jul 02 15:21:07 <Gaget> Wow, this Pao must resign might get some actual wind in its sails now.
  248. Jul 02 15:21:11 <Meneth> Hopefully some sort of explanation comes soon..
  249. Jul 02 15:21:17 <Gaget> Getting rid of Victoria seems really dumb.
  250. Jul 02 15:22:01 <TitanT> I presume her contract was made under california law? that's one of the states where you are meant to have things like notice of dismissal etc. right?
  251. Jul 02 15:22:19 <werner__herzog> Gaget: it already did.
  252. Jul 02 15:22:24 <TitanT> I heard it was sudden so like idk what's even happening there.
  253. Jul 02 15:22:31 <Flashynuff> So
  254. Jul 02 15:22:40 <Flashynuff> Who here is considering making their subs private?
  255. Jul 02 15:22:58 <Gaget> In protest?
  256. Jul 02 15:23:06 <cwenham> It would be a third bad decision.
  257. Jul 02 15:23:10 <Meneth> TitanT: Only if the contract implies it as far as I can tell.
  258. Jul 02 15:23:23 <werner__herzog> I'm not liking what is happening right now, either. But with the little bit of information we have, I wouldn't be too trigger happy and shut down subreddits. We don't know what the details are.
  259. Jul 02 15:23:34 <cwenham> We only have karmanaut's side of the story.
  260. Jul 02 15:23:39 <Meneth> "California’s Labor Code specifies that an employment relationship with no specified duration is presumed to be employment “at-will.” This means, at least in theory, that the employer or employee may terminate the employment relationship at any time, with or without cause. There are exceptions to the at-will rule created by statute, the courts or public policy."
  261. Jul 02 15:23:44 <werner__herzog> (It was sudden for IAmA mods, we don't know how sudden it was for her...)
  262. Jul 02 15:23:51 <TitanT> Oh huh
  263. Jul 02 15:24:02 <TitanT> I didn't know cali had at-will. That makes more sense then.
  264. Jul 02 15:24:10 <werner__herzog> But, she probably would have told them...but maybe she wasn't allowed to.
  265. Jul 02 15:24:19 <Meneth> werner__herzog: We also have one PR guy who had a client who was gonna hold an AMA.
  266. Jul 02 15:24:22 <TitanT> I was thinking something serious must have gone down, but perhaps not if it was an at-will employment.#
  267. Jul 02 15:24:28 <Meneth> Who called Victoria and found out she'd just gotten fired.
  268. Jul 02 15:24:39 <Meneth> So it seems it happened in the last 24 hours or so.
  269. Jul 02 15:25:06 <Meneth> TitanT: The US is weird. At-will employment isn't really a thing here.
  270. Jul 02 15:25:17 <werner__herzog> Meneth: ugh...
  271. Jul 02 15:25:36 <Flashynuff> Mostly I'm pissed at the lack of communication from the current admins. as far as i'm aware they haven't said anything to the numerous modteams who are affected by this change.
  272. Jul 02 15:26:08 <TitanT> here either
  273. Jul 02 15:27:02 <cwenham> Taking IAMA or any other large sub private smacks of grandstanding.
  274. Jul 02 15:27:13 <imakuram> oh nice chooter is talking to us in /r/booksmods about helping us contact ernest cline etc.
  275. Jul 02 15:28:05 <Meneth> Here in Norway, you pretty much can't fire anyone with less than a month's notice, unless they've clearly broken their employment contract.
  276. Jul 02 15:28:19 <werner__herzog> New theory: Victoria decided to go out with a bam (since there were relocation issues) and slept with a Jon Hamm.
  277. Jul 02 15:28:43 <Meneth> Increases to two months after 5 years employment, and to three months after 10 years employment.
  278. Jul 02 15:29:38 <Meneth> Works in both directions for good measure.
  279. Jul 02 15:32:36 <x_minus_one> Victoria seemed nice :(
  280. Jul 02 15:32:54 <x_minus_one> #ThanksEllenPao
  281. Jul 02 15:34:18 <andytuba> Meneth: yeah, California is an at-will state. employer can tell you to go away at any time
  282. Jul 02 15:34:29 <Cylon> werner__herzog, if so then i'm jealous even as at straight dude
  283. Jul 02 15:34:29 <Meneth> andytuba: Yes. I quoted that above :P
  284. Jul 02 15:34:43 <andytuba> oh look scrollback
  285. Jul 02 15:35:19 <Cylon> kn0thing has responded
  286. Jul 02 15:35:24 <x_minus_one> oooh
  287. Jul 02 15:35:27 <x_minus_one> link?
  288. Jul 02 15:35:28 <cwenham> Link?
  289. Jul 02 15:35:44 <andytuba> /u/kn0thing you goobers
  290. Jul 02 15:36:08 <x_minus_one> Countdown until the iama mods are shadowbanned
  291. Jul 02 15:36:09 <andytuba> sheesh, it's like you don't even reddit
  292. Jul 02 15:36:10 <Cylon> https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq6ekp
  293. Jul 02 15:36:10 <gonzobot> (Cylon) Why has R/Iama been set to private? : OutOfTheLoop - 702 comments, 1,342 points - chickenmagic, 2h ago
  294. Jul 02 15:36:23 <Cylon> basically: none of your business, you'll do fine without her
  295. Jul 02 15:36:27 <Meneth> So kn0thing didn't really say anything.
  296. Jul 02 15:36:38 <Cylon> yep
  297. Jul 02 15:36:41 <x_minus_one> "stop whining and bring back our revenue source"
  298. Jul 02 15:36:46 <Cylon> ^
  299. Jul 02 15:37:15 <allthefoxes> wow
  300. Jul 02 15:37:19 <allthefoxes> what a fucking non answer
  301. Jul 02 15:37:21 <JustPassingThrough> http://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq6ekp?context=3
  302. Jul 02 15:37:27 <Meneth> I'm still wondering what the fuck happend to make it happen so suddenly.
  303. Jul 02 15:37:29 <JustPassingThrough> ok admin thx 4 helps
  304. Jul 02 15:37:30 <allthefoxes> I get that he can't give details about people
  305. Jul 02 15:37:34 <allthefoxes> but jfc
  306. Jul 02 15:37:43 <allthefoxes> thats the worst answer he could have given
  307. Jul 02 15:37:59 <JustPassingThrough> >end of kn0things url is ekp
  308. Jul 02 15:38:02 <Meneth> I mean if the issue is simply that Victoria can't relocate for example, they could have a transition period of some sort.
  309. Jul 02 15:38:03 <JustPassingThrough> >ellen pao is ekjp
  310. Jul 02 15:38:05 <x_minus_one> it's on my trending news thing on facebook
  311. Jul 02 15:38:07 <JustPassingThrough> /r/conspiracy
  312. Jul 02 15:38:13 <andytuba> JustPassingThrough: farcry 6 confirmed
  313. Jul 02 15:38:27 <Cylon> that answer was about as helpful as the admins have been in modmail lately
  314. Jul 02 15:38:28 <x_minus_one> Didn't they say in the past though that her job required her to not be in SF?
  315. Jul 02 15:39:38 <x_minus_one> And that she specifically was an exception?
  316. Jul 02 15:40:06 * allthefoxes approaches the podium in a nice tux
  317. Jul 02 15:40:13 * allthefoxes approaches the mic
  318. Jul 02 15:40:15 <allthefoxes> ahem
  319. Jul 02 15:40:23 <allthefoxes> And the non-answer of the year award goes too...
  320. Jul 02 15:40:29 * allthefoxes opens evelope
  321. Jul 02 15:40:33 <Cylon> pls be me
  322. Jul 02 15:40:33 <allthefoxes> /u/kn0thing!
  323. Jul 02 15:40:36 <Cylon> pls be me
  324. Jul 02 15:40:37 <Cylon> dang
  325. Jul 02 15:40:40 <Cylon> snubbed again
  326. Jul 02 15:40:47 * allthefoxes cheers and claps
  327. Jul 02 15:40:53 <x_minus_one> ♬lick it now, lick it good, suck this pussy just like you should♬
  328. Jul 02 15:41:03 <Cylon> !comic
  329. Jul 02 15:41:03 <Meneth> I haven't even gotten any responses to my last three or so messages to the admins.
  330. Jul 02 15:41:05 <weeedbot> Cylon: http://i.imgur.com/fzX8R4S.jpg
  331. Jul 02 15:41:06 <x_minus_one> ♬my neck, my back, lick my pussy and my crack♬
  332. Jul 02 15:41:13 <Meneth> One of which was about a brigade, and two about ban evasion.
  333. Jul 02 15:41:15 <x_minus_one> -ekjp
  334. Jul 02 15:41:28 <Meneth> An extremely clear-cut brigade.
  335. Jul 02 15:41:50 <Meneth> As the targetted post had been removed within a second of posting by AutoModerator, and was posted by a throwaway.
  336. Jul 02 15:42:05 <picflute> So iAmA mods are striking?
  337. Jul 02 15:42:11 <picflute> Get my popcorn
  338. Jul 02 15:42:17 <Meneth> So there was no legitimate way to get to it. As far as I can tell, the admins didn't bother to do anything.
  339. Jul 02 15:42:19 <x_minus_one> Who will be the first to be shadowbanned?
  340. Jul 02 15:42:24 <Meneth> For all I know they didn't even bother to read my modmail.
  341. Jul 02 15:42:49 <Cylon> picflute, u r ootl
  342. Jul 02 15:42:55 <x_minus_one> Reddit won't put up with one of their big PR subs being made private. Either that or they'll make a poor copy of it and make that a default.
  343. Jul 02 15:43:14 <Cylon> we here at #modtalk fully support the actions of our administrator overlords
  344. Jul 02 15:43:18 <Cylon> world without end
  345. Jul 02 15:43:18 <Cylon> amen
  346. Jul 02 15:43:24 <cwenham> They have the ability to re-subscribe every current subscriber to a clone sub.
  347. Jul 02 15:43:37 <picflute> but is it worth it?
  348. Jul 02 15:43:41 <Meneth> And who the fuck is gonna run the new sub if so?
  349. Jul 02 15:43:43 <MeghanAM> I wonder if the admins might just... take the sub? It'd be a new twist, but it's their site
  350. Jul 02 15:43:50 <cwenham> But if they were to do that, they'd probably just wipe the current mod team and take it public again.
  351. Jul 02 15:44:03 <picflute> ooo that'd be a win for SubredditCancer
  352. Jul 02 15:44:29 <x_minus_one> I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, something like /r/nottheonion could easily be booted without causing a stir, but things like iama and askreddit are too big for them to lose
  353. Jul 02 15:45:14 <Cylon> MeghanAM, they've done it before
  354. Jul 02 15:45:22 <Cylon> last time AMA shut down
  355. Jul 02 15:45:42 <stopscopiesme> meneth: were these all sent today, these unanswered messages?
  356. Jul 02 15:45:51 <Meneth> Nah, over the past few weeks.
  357. Jul 02 15:45:56 <picflute> But look now, the site is differnt
  358. Jul 02 15:45:58 <joyouscacophony> Last time AMA shut down, there were calls and begging to get it back up
  359. Jul 02 15:46:03 <joyouscacophony> Not a full on Admin takeover
  360. Jul 02 15:46:10 <stopscopiesme> I’ve had similar issues over the past few months getting mails answered
  361. Jul 02 15:46:19 <Cylon> still, they could just handwave that away
  362. Jul 02 15:46:26 <x_minus_one> I've had to PM admins lately because modmails were getting ignored
  363. Jul 02 15:46:33 <Cylon> stopscopiesme, we should start a petition to bring back cupcake
  364. Jul 02 15:46:38 <x_minus_one> like blatant doxx being posted and they ignored it
  365. Jul 02 15:46:59 <Meneth> The brigade thing was 2 weeks ago.
  366. Jul 02 15:47:16 <MeghanAM> cupcake++
  367. Jul 02 15:47:31 <stopscopiesme> I don’t understand…. there are more community managers than there has ever been, and LESS of my mail is getting answerd
  368. Jul 02 15:47:43 <Meneth> Hmm. Another message to the admins on the same day did get responded to very quickly.
  369. Jul 02 15:47:51 <Meneth> And favorably; got a ban evader shadowbanned.
  370. Jul 02 15:47:59 <Meneth> So that inconsistency makes things even weirder.
  371. Jul 02 15:48:04 <picflute> Took spork a day to reply to my doxx mail
  372. Jul 02 15:48:37 <picflute> Noticed that action was taken since the user mentioned I had set to filter in automod and found that they shadowbanned him today
  373. Jul 02 15:48:43 <stopscopiesme> who usually responds to you guys? I usually only ever see sporkicide, orcrasorm, and liltrixxy
  374. Jul 02 15:48:49 <picflute> Spork for doxxing
  375. Jul 02 15:48:59 <picflute> LordVinyl for general issues like Ban evasion
  376. Jul 02 15:49:06 <Meneth> The ban evasion response was from LordVinyl.
  377. Jul 02 15:49:12 <stopscopiesme> I think I’ve seen lordvinyl once
  378. Jul 02 15:49:20 <allthefoxes> i usually get spork
  379. Jul 02 15:49:22 <allthefoxes> sometimes ocra
  380. Jul 02 15:49:22 <x_minus_one> I guess they're too busy protecting people who send nudes to random people.
  381. Jul 02 15:49:28 <alienth> Cylon: last time it shut down we didn't take it. the owner handed it off after discussion.
  382. Jul 02 15:49:30 <joyouscacophony> usually sporky
  383. Jul 02 15:49:34 <joyouscacophony> Ocra
  384. Jul 02 15:49:37 <picflute> Every /r/lol mod gets him when we modmail him. It's crazy.
  385. Jul 02 15:49:39 <joyouscacophony> And vinyl last on the list
  386. Jul 02 15:49:46 <Meneth> If every admin interaction was like that ban evasion report, everything would be great.
  387. Jul 02 15:49:52 <Cylon> ah, misremembered
  388. Jul 02 15:50:01 <x_minus_one> I thought I was banned from the /r/reddit.com modmail for a while because I didn't get any responses for like 3 months straight
  389. Jul 02 15:50:10 <Meneth> Often enough though, there's simply never a response, or it takes over a day to get one.
  390. Jul 02 15:50:12 <picflute> What did you ask?
  391. Jul 02 15:50:17 <Cylon> x_minus_one, tbh you do really suck
  392. Jul 02 15:50:32 <picflute> I asked them about reddit policy and 10mins after I made a modtalk thread Deimorz responsded
  393. Jul 02 15:50:39 <x_minus_one> /r/trashy gets a lot of obvious personal info posted
  394. Jul 02 15:50:59 <picflute> HAs anyone emaild them before?
  395. Jul 02 15:51:03 <x_minus_one> and child porn occasionally
  396. Jul 02 15:51:44 <allthefoxes> TehAlpacalypse,
  397. Jul 02 15:51:45 <allthefoxes> TehAlpacalypse,
  398. Jul 02 15:51:46 <alienth> picflute: when I was there, we occasionally got emails. it was pretty infrequent, tho. most of the emails were either spam or actual "press" stuff.
  399. Jul 02 15:51:49 <allthefoxes> It happened
  400. Jul 02 15:51:53 <allthefoxes> Treebeast level 1000
  401. Jul 02 15:51:56 <TehAlpacalypse> wow
  402. Jul 02 15:51:57 <TehAlpacalypse> rofl
  403. Jul 02 15:51:59 <allthefoxes> 35% of my dps
  404. Jul 02 15:52:03 <allthefoxes> not joking
  405. Jul 02 15:52:40 <picflute> What i'm curious is with how garbage modmail is should we just email reddit.com
  406. Jul 02 15:53:18 <picflute> Oh and funny enough Subredditcancer found LordVinyls' YouTube channel apparently
  407. Jul 02 15:53:19 <picflute> R I P
  408. Jul 02 15:56:15 <picflute> btw anyone want to take bets on how long it lasts?
  409. Jul 02 15:56:27 <Cylon> i'm surprised it's lasted this long
  410. Jul 02 15:57:30 <picflute> https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/3bw7ms/top_mod_of_riama_explains_why_its_been_set_to/csq5mp9
  411. Jul 02 15:57:31 <gonzobot> (picflute) Top mod of /r/IamA explains why it's been set to private. : bestof - 61 comments, 219 points - 316nuts, 2h ago
  412. Jul 02 15:57:35 <picflute> he said 2 days
  413. Jul 02 15:58:20 <Cylon> lol x316nuts
  414. Jul 02 15:58:24 <x316nuts> :3
  415. Jul 02 15:58:30 <x316nuts> dat shameless karma grab
  416. Jul 02 15:58:37 <Cylon> did you manage to plug 316cats somehow yet?
  417. Jul 02 15:58:40 <x316nuts> not yet
  418. Jul 02 15:58:47 <x316nuts> that requires patience and careful consideration
  419. Jul 02 15:58:49 <Cylon> getting slow old man
  420. Jul 02 15:59:02 <x316nuts> i gotta wait for that dumb bot to be at the top of something first before droppping muh kittehs
  421. Jul 02 15:59:47 <Cylon> you're a bestof mod right?
  422. Jul 02 15:59:52 <x316nuts> not anymore
  423. Jul 02 15:59:55 <Cylon> just flair the post with cats
  424. Jul 02 15:59:56 <Cylon> oh
  425. Jul 02 15:59:59 <x316nuts> tempting
  426. Jul 02 16:00:12 <imakuram> lol good point. Somehow this isn't as big a deal as fatpeoplehate to the users
  427. Jul 02 16:00:14 <imakuram> meh
  428. Jul 02 16:00:40 <joyouscacophony> Users don't care about admins... just freeze peach
  429. Jul 02 16:06:40 <tizorres> iama is private?
  430. Jul 02 16:06:45 <picflute> ya
  431. Jul 02 16:07:08 <picflute> Victoria was let go of and IAmA mods are restructuring because of it
  432. Jul 02 16:07:20 <rya> anyone know why was victoria fired ?
  433. Jul 02 16:07:28 <tizorres> that's crazy
  434. Jul 02 16:08:07 <kerovon> No info has been released on why, but she was blindsided by it.
  435. Jul 02 16:08:59 <x_minus_one> refused to lick pao's snatch
  436. Jul 02 16:09:23 <rya> ah
  437. Jul 02 16:10:29 <picflute> Apparently she was let go of?
  438. Jul 02 16:11:07 <picflute> Sucks thou, admins can't exactly say why she was
  439. Jul 02 16:11:17 <picflute> And if they do that's going to backfire hard on them
  440. Jul 02 16:11:28 <picflute> She got PAO'd
  441. Jul 02 16:11:46 <picflute> Maybe Victoria was Goldf1sh all along
  442. Jul 02 16:11:58 <x_minus_one> We all know what happened last time they discussed why someone was fired.
  443. Jul 02 16:11:59 <cwenham> Tripledun.
  444. Jul 02 16:12:42 <allthefoxes> Kung Paod
  445. Jul 02 16:13:33 <x_minus_one> Cunt Pao'd.
  446. Jul 02 16:14:05 <rya> lol
  447. Jul 02 16:14:10 <stopscopiesme> I’m gonna guess they fired her because they saw her as fat that needed trimmed
  448. Jul 02 16:14:34 <stopscopiesme> it seemed all she did was AMA stuff
  449. Jul 02 16:14:35 <rya> i do think karmanaut is prob the strongest mod here who will only be taken seriously by the admins
  450. Jul 02 16:14:44 <Cylon> wow
  451. Jul 02 16:14:50 <Cylon> so the admins were pro fph after all
  452. Jul 02 16:14:55 <stopscopiesme> HAH!
  453. Jul 02 16:15:03 <rya> like dey dont care abt other people but this guy can shut the one sub which can affect reddit big time
  454. Jul 02 16:15:04 <Cylon> badum-tsh
  455. Jul 02 16:15:14 <Meneth> stopscopiesme: kn0thing will supposedly help IAMA in the interrim.
  456. Jul 02 16:15:28 <Meneth> So it doesn't seem they suddenly decided there was no need for someone handling AMAs.
  457. Jul 02 16:15:34 <Coffeh> pao right in the kisser
  458. Jul 02 16:15:51 <stopscopiesme> maybe she was *supposed* to be doing other stuff that wasn’t amas, and wasn’t?
  459. Jul 02 16:16:03 <allthefoxes> she did outreach
  460. Jul 02 16:16:09 <allthefoxes> her main job was getting people to do Iamas
  461. Jul 02 16:16:27 <Cylon> stopscopiesme, stop with your anti-victoria questioning
  462. Jul 02 16:16:32 <Cylon> we are firmly a cult now
  463. Jul 02 16:16:41 <x_minus_one> victoria++
  464. Jul 02 16:16:42 <x_minus_one> pao--
  465. Jul 02 16:16:43 <Coffeh> it seemed to me that iamas are seen as the most important part of reddit for the admins, given the app n everything
  466. Jul 02 16:16:47 <Cylon> victoria++
  467. Jul 02 16:16:56 <Coffeh> victoria++
  468. Jul 02 16:16:59 <stopscopiesme> I can’t imagine a company struggling as hard as reddit justifying paying someone 100k+ a year (my guess of her salary) for just AMA stuff they could pawn off for free to the mods
  469. Jul 02 16:17:19 <Cylon> that's probably a way too high number
  470. Jul 02 16:17:19 <Meneth> I wonder how much of a meltdown /r/defaultmods is having.
  471. Jul 02 16:17:30 <Meneth> They can't be happy.
  472. Jul 02 16:17:38 <x_minus_one> I always forget about /r/defaultmods.
  473. Jul 02 16:17:38 <stopscopiesme> I don’t think so. in nyc, 100k is not rich
  474. Jul 02 16:17:40 <Cylon> or maybe they're super happy
  475. Jul 02 16:17:40 <Coffeh> mod me in a default and ill tell you, hueheu
  476. Jul 02 16:18:53 <stopscopiesme> I’m just curious if it was connected to the jesse jackson ama, or that’s a coincedence
  477. Jul 02 16:19:03 <Meneth> Probably a coincidence.
  478. Jul 02 16:19:12 <stopscopiesme> people are speculating she got reddit in legal trouble by typing stuff she wasn’t supposed to
  479. Jul 02 16:19:12 <Meneth> There's been plenty of AMA disasters in the past.
  480. Jul 02 16:19:39 <Coffeh> what happend with the jesse jackson ama? out of the loop
  481. Jul 02 16:20:04 <Meneth> Stormfront.
  482. Jul 02 16:20:10 <Coffeh> fuck
  483. Jul 02 16:20:45 <x316nuts> it was going to be a disaster no matter what
  484. Jul 02 16:21:01 <stopscopiesme> heh, at least he hit the front page. uwe boll’s ama was downvoted below the threshold
  485. Jul 02 16:22:57 <x316nuts> aside from the inherent drama, was something else "said" that was dramatic?
  486. Jul 02 16:23:50 <Meneth> In regards to Jesse Jackson?
  487. Jul 02 16:23:54 <Meneth> There was an SRD thread.
  488. Jul 02 16:25:02 <stopscopiesme> RIP x316nuts as SRD mod
  489. Jul 02 16:25:06 <stopscopiesme> never 4get
  490. Jul 02 16:25:18 <x316nuts> more like never notice ammirite
  491. Jul 02 16:25:23 <stopscopiesme> -___-
  492. Jul 02 16:25:23 * x316nuts pokes stopscopiesme
  493. Jul 02 16:25:29 <stopscopiesme> I take this shame and bear it
  494. Jul 02 16:25:49 <x316nuts> it's okay if i had done *anything* at all around there it may have been noticed sooner
  495. Jul 02 16:25:50 <x316nuts> alas
  496. Jul 02 16:25:58 <x316nuts> my departure wasn't even a blip on the radar due to me being a lazy poo
  497. Jul 02 16:26:07 <x316nuts> i'm okay with this
  498. Jul 02 16:26:40 <stopscopiesme> I still feel silly I wrote you a pm chiding you for not staying in communication :p
  499. Jul 02 16:26:48 <x316nuts> AHAHAHAHAHA
  500. Jul 02 16:26:57 <stopscopiesme> and you didn’t even take the opportunity to respond “I quit two months ago you dumb piece of shit"
  501. Jul 02 16:26:59 <x316nuts> "stfu what are you in my business for pffft"
  502. Jul 02 16:27:15 <x316nuts> let the shame and cringe slowly wash over you
  503. Jul 02 16:28:11 <creesch> https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq9aou?context=3
  504. Jul 02 16:28:43 <Cylon> late creesch
  505. Jul 02 16:28:50 <JustPassingThrough> no
  506. Jul 02 16:28:53 <JustPassingThrough> he posted something else
  507. Jul 02 16:28:54 <Cylon> we're on top of things
  508. Jul 02 16:28:57 <JustPassingThrough> whatever it is, it isnt showing
  509. Jul 02 16:29:03 <Cylon> oh
  510. Jul 02 16:29:05 <creesch> Cylon: did you click
  511. Jul 02 16:29:05 <Cylon> it is now
  512. Jul 02 16:29:08 <cwenham> It's been removed or deleted.
  513. Jul 02 16:29:10 <werner__herzog> thread is locked, btw
  514. Jul 02 16:29:12 <Cylon> didn't show at first
  515. Jul 02 16:29:38 <werner__herzog> I approved creesch's comment, cause we're are approving relevant comments to kn0thing
  516. Jul 02 16:29:47 <creesch> werner__herzog: thanks
  517. Jul 02 16:29:57 <werner__herzog> you should be able to see it now Cylon
  518. Jul 02 16:30:06 <Cylon> i do
  519. Jul 02 16:30:45 <creesch> Cylon: it is something I also posted in defaultmods, I think people should be aware of this.
  520. Jul 02 16:31:19 <Cylon> cabalbots, roll out!
  521. Jul 02 16:31:20 <creesch> Effectively reddit moderation depends on a third part tool and one of the creators of that tool (me) highly dislikes the fact that this is the case
  522. Jul 02 16:31:35 <Meneth> Toolbox <3
  523. Jul 02 16:31:43 <Meneth> I couldn't moderate without it.
  524. Jul 02 16:31:51 <creesch> I much rather would have a situation where toolbox was just cool and nifty but in now way necessary for mods to do work efficient.
  525. Jul 02 16:32:05 <agentlame> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  526. Jul 02 16:32:28 <greenduch> morning all. how are our pitchforks today? :3
  527. Jul 02 16:32:28 <cordismelum> that would be nice
  528. Jul 02 16:32:30 <agentlame> BTW, creesch which one of us will be fixing search?
  529. Jul 02 16:32:32 <cordismelum> but when will that happen?
  530. Jul 02 16:32:35 <Cylon> sharp and polished
  531. Jul 02 16:32:36 <stopscopiesme> kinda the same thing with RES…. that so many people need a 3rd party extension because vanilla reddit sux
  532. Jul 02 16:32:44 <Meneth> greenduch: Sharpened and oiled.
  533. Jul 02 16:32:50 <greenduch> \o/ yay
  534. Jul 02 16:32:50 <gonzobot> HUAH!
  535. Jul 02 16:32:53 <greenduch> shuddup gonzobot
  536. Jul 02 16:33:20 <creesch> agentlame: sigh... you know who... it is a lot of css work
  537. Jul 02 16:33:26 <Meneth> I just can't get past that the admins didn't bother to write up a message to the affected subreddits.
  538. Jul 02 16:33:34 <Meneth> That's like... PR 101.
  539. Jul 02 16:34:20 <Meneth> It wouldn't even have to say much. "Victoria no longer works for us. We can't talk about the reasons why. kn0thing will try to handle her duties while we work things out."
  540. Jul 02 16:34:20 <Cylon> yeah meneth they just fired their only semi-pr person
  541. Jul 02 16:34:40 <Meneth> If something like that had been sent to all the affected subs within a few minutes of the firing, I think the mods would be a lot less up in arms.
  542. Jul 02 16:34:58 <Flashynuff> Most likely, yeah.
  543. Jul 02 16:35:34 <Meneth> Reddit could probably hire a 15 year old to communicate better than they do today.
  544. Jul 02 16:35:50 <Meneth> ...Jaden Smith would probably commmunicate better on reddit's behalf than reddit does today.
  545. Jul 02 16:35:58 <Meneth> And would have the advantage of being hilarious.
  546. Jul 02 16:36:28 <kerovon> r/science is currently scrambling to attempt to salavage a massive AMA we almost had finalized
  547. Jul 02 16:36:44 <kerovon> but we are having trouble getting responses.
  548. Jul 02 16:36:57 <Meneth> What a mess.
  549. Jul 02 16:37:46 <MeghanAM> How can admins be real if reddit isn't real: the blog post
  550. Jul 02 16:42:34 <Meneth> Anyone remember the Magic: The Gathering rapist guy? Apparently he got a 35 year ban from professional Magic :D
  551. Jul 02 16:42:48 <cordismelum> yay
  552. Jul 02 16:42:59 <cordismelum> 35 years isn't long enough
  553. Jul 02 16:44:32 <x_minus_one> Anyone know where to get a really cheap lightning cable? Don't care about the quality, it's for something where I work
  554. Jul 02 16:44:37 <TheAppleFreak> Amazon
  555. Jul 02 16:44:47 <kerovon> r/science is kill.
  556. Jul 02 16:44:56 <rya> lol
  557. Jul 02 16:45:03 <rya> dey r having problems too i hear
  558. Jul 02 16:45:15 <x_minus_one> oooh
  559. Jul 02 16:45:23 <rya> i wonder if dey will take some action
  560. Jul 02 16:45:36 <rya> r/science has a lot of mods doe
  561. Jul 02 16:46:03 <kerovon> Most of our mods are just comment mods.
  562. Jul 02 16:46:10 <x_minus_one> I wish there was a way to sort amazon by low to high, price + shipping
  563. Jul 02 16:46:28 --- ButtServ gives channel half-operator status to krispykrackers
  564. Jul 02 16:46:39 <TheAppleFreak> isn't there already a way? I swear they have a "sort by price" option
  565. Jul 02 16:46:56 <x_minus_one> yeah, but it doesn't include shipping
  566. Jul 02 16:47:12 <x_minus_one> so all the $0.01 (plus $15.00 shipping) ones show up first
  567. Jul 02 16:47:16 <cwenham> Hello, Krispy.
  568. Jul 02 16:47:26 <krispykrackers> hey
  569. Jul 02 16:47:33 <krispykrackers> not sur what I’m doing here tbh
  570. Jul 02 16:47:36 <cwenham> Interesting times.
  571. Jul 02 16:47:40 <krispykrackers> but if anyone has questions or whatever, I’d love to hear it
  572. Jul 02 16:47:44 <x_minus_one> krispy always shows up when shit goes down
  573. Jul 02 16:47:47 <TheAppleFreak> what is love
  574. Jul 02 16:48:19 <krispykrackers> baby, don’t hurt me?
  575. Jul 02 16:48:33 <cwenham> We have only one side of today's story. We're wondering if there's something else we ought to know :-)
  576. Jul 02 16:48:54 <krispykrackers> regarding victoria specifically?
  577. Jul 02 16:48:59 <cwenham> Yup.
  578. Jul 02 16:49:17 <krispykrackers> so
  579. Jul 02 16:49:31 <krispykrackers> I woke up this morning took a shower, and checked my email while walking to work
  580. Jul 02 16:49:41 <rya> hehe
  581. Jul 02 16:49:42 <krispykrackers> second from the top was “Thank you, Victoria"
  582. Jul 02 16:49:52 <krispykrackers> and that’s how I found out
  583. Jul 02 16:49:55 <rya> what happened krispykrackers
  584. Jul 02 16:50:03 <rya> y did dey fire victoria ?
  585. Jul 02 16:50:06 <rya> or lay off
  586. Jul 02 16:50:12 <krispykrackers> I assume maybe two people here know the real reason, Alexis and Ellen
  587. Jul 02 16:50:26 <krispykrackers> I don’t know. I’m assuming terminated. I can’t imagine she would leave, she loved working here.
  588. Jul 02 16:50:29 <rya> oh
  589. Jul 02 16:50:44 <x_minus_one> That's sad. :(
  590. Jul 02 16:50:47 <greenduch> yeah it is
  591. Jul 02 16:50:49 <rya> she did her job well right krispykrackers
  592. Jul 02 16:50:59 <rya> der shud never be a reason to terminate
  593. Jul 02 16:51:03 <rya> this is bs
  594. Jul 02 16:51:13 <Meneth> I mean, there might've been one. Chances are we'll never know.
  595. Jul 02 16:51:26 <cwenham> There's a bit of an "let's do an Atlas Shrugged" mood circulating around here. Perhaps Alexis and Ellen can step in before it goes to a strike or something.
  596. Jul 02 16:51:38 <x_minus_one> I'm assuming Ms. Pao isn't going to pull a yishan and post about it.
  597. Jul 02 16:51:39 <Meneth> The real issue in my opinion is that the admins didn't bother to tell the affected subs *anything*.
  598. Jul 02 16:51:49 <EvilNight> If she was terminated because Jesse Jackson's AMA went down in flames I will be taking issue with that.
  599. Jul 02 16:51:51 <Nesquik> ^
  600. Jul 02 16:51:56 <rya> wat
  601. Jul 02 16:52:04 <allthefoxes> I would for sure
  602. Jul 02 16:52:07 <allthefoxes> but we dont know
  603. Jul 02 16:52:08 <greenduch> im sure that was not why
  604. Jul 02 16:52:10 <allthefoxes> we never really will
  605. Jul 02 16:52:15 <EvilNight> one of the more popular theories but frankly no one knows why
  606. Jul 02 16:52:15 <rya> that was just one ama i guess and i doubt it wud be the reason
  607. Jul 02 16:52:24 <Meneth> Of course. It's possible she was laid off for a terrible reason. It is possible it was for a good reason. It is possible it was for a mediocre reason.
  608. Jul 02 16:52:25 <greenduch> a shit ton of reddit employees have been let go lately
  609. Jul 02 16:52:26 <rya> der have been amas previously which have had problems
  610. Jul 02 16:52:31 <greenduch> if you notice the team page
  611. Jul 02 16:52:33 <Nesquik> the effected subs really should have been given more notice so they could have time to plan and arrange
  612. Jul 02 16:52:35 <x_minus_one> Honestly, I think even hearing a "we actually do care about y'all" from Ellen would make people feel better. It always seems like she's not involved with the site, which probably doesn't help the whole "lel chairman pao" reputation.
  613. Jul 02 16:52:42 <Meneth> The only thing we know for sure, is that the admins didn't bother to tell the affected subs.
  614. Jul 02 16:52:54 <greenduch> basically all the old timers are gone at this point, except for krispykrackers. and maybe deimorz because he's in canada and they cant force him to move to SF
  615. Jul 02 16:53:02 <Meneth> Instead, IAMA learned from some PR guy representing some person who was gonna hold an AMA.
  616. Jul 02 16:53:13 <greenduch> wow
  617. Jul 02 16:53:15 <Meneth> And most everyone else learned from IAMA closing.
  618. Jul 02 16:53:25 <krispykrackers> she was great at her job
  619. Jul 02 16:53:30 <x_minus_one> They would be in so much trouble without deimorz, honestly.
  620. Jul 02 16:53:34 <rya> right ?
  621. Jul 02 16:53:36 <allthefoxes> cwenham, honestly, yeah, and I can understand it. I'm a bit mixed, but when people who literally spend so much of thier free time to make this site better just get repeatedly shit on by the people who run this site.
  622. Jul 02 16:53:43 <rya> so i dont see the reason at all krispykrackers
  623. Jul 02 16:53:57 <kerovon> 2 defaults have already gone private over the lack of communication.
  624. Jul 02 16:54:03 <TheAppleFreak> what
  625. Jul 02 16:54:07 <allthefoxes> And its worse because I bet a lot of people at reddit want reddit to well too, ffs
  626. Jul 02 16:54:11 <cwenham> Which is the other default?
  627. Jul 02 16:54:12 <greenduch> funny how management seems to show a complete lack of respect for their employees as well as for reddit mods. that they would leave AMA mods, basically their flagship subreddit, hanging like that is fucking bizarre
  628. Jul 02 16:54:15 <rya> the current administration seems so distant from the sub krispykrackers.. its like they dont care anymore
  629. Jul 02 16:54:23 <rya> *site
  630. Jul 02 16:54:31 <allthefoxes> But thats the thing
  631. Jul 02 16:54:33 <kerovon> r/science went private about 5 minutes ago.
  632. Jul 02 16:54:38 <allthefoxes> I bet $1000000 dollars that they do care
  633. Jul 02 16:54:38 <TheAppleFreak> shit
  634. Jul 02 16:54:43 <EvilNight> ho boy
  635. Jul 02 16:54:47 <allthefoxes> they just arent showing it the right fucking way
  636. Jul 02 16:54:52 <rya> yea right
  637. Jul 02 16:55:10 <cwenham> That's a kick in the teeth.
  638. Jul 02 16:55:25 <allthefoxes> I feel like ive been kicked in the teeth too by all this shit lately
  639. Jul 02 16:55:31 <krispykrackers> tell me about it
  640. Jul 02 16:55:36 <allthefoxes> Right
  641. Jul 02 16:55:42 <allthefoxes> so thats what upsets me
  642. Jul 02 16:55:46 <allthefoxes> we are getting kicked
  643. Jul 02 16:55:49 <allthefoxes> you are getting kicked
  644. Jul 02 16:55:52 <x_minus_one> I'm pretty sure if another well-liked admin gets the boot, shit's gonna go down
  645. Jul 02 16:55:58 <Meneth> Yeah. From my perspective communication is reddit's real problem.
  646. Jul 02 16:56:03 <allthefoxes> Everyone is getting kicked in the face BY REDDIT because REDDIT cant get it together
  647. Jul 02 16:56:06 <Meneth> Not imaginary conspiracies. Actual communication.
  648. Jul 02 16:56:11 <cwenham> It is presently going down. 2 defaults already.
  649. Jul 02 16:56:32 <allthefoxes> I left a comment about it here
  650. Jul 02 16:56:32 <Meneth> When I report an obvious, clear-cut brigade to the admins, I expect to actually get a response of *some* sort.
  651. Jul 02 16:56:33 <allthefoxes> https://www.reddit.com/r/defaultmods/comments/3bw94t/riama_goes_private_after_victoria_uchooter_is_let/csq9ytt
  652. Jul 02 16:56:39 <allthefoxes> Sorry to the non defualt mods scrubs
  653. Jul 02 16:56:41 <rya> is it cause the admins dont have a personal connection with the site anymore krispykrackers ? like before the admins used to be more u kno.. friendly and liked people and more vocal
  654. Jul 02 16:56:47 <rya> these days its all pao
  655. Jul 02 16:56:52 <Meneth> And when a reddit decision significantly disrupts major subs, those need to be told *something*.
  656. Jul 02 16:56:53 <allthefoxes> Pao right in the kisser
  657. Jul 02 16:56:57 <rya> or people mysteriously comming and leaving
  658. Jul 02 16:56:59 <x_minus_one> Pao! Right in the nuts.
  659. Jul 02 16:57:03 <x_minus_one> crap, you beat me allthefoxes
  660. Jul 02 16:57:04 <weeedbot> (⊙︿⊙) crap ass
  661. Jul 02 16:58:05 <allthefoxes> This just all sucks
  662. Jul 02 16:58:07 <agentlame> stopscopiesme: you're my hero https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/3bvkf0/stop_throwing_beer_cans_on_my_lawn_while_im/csqaa0b?context=3
  663. Jul 02 16:58:11 <rya> do u think there will be a blog post about this krispykrackers ?
  664. Jul 02 16:58:17 <allthefoxes> there wont be
  665. Jul 02 16:58:18 <krispykrackers> I don’t know
  666. Jul 02 16:58:21 <allthefoxes> theres nothing to say
  667. Jul 02 16:58:22 <rya> oh
  668. Jul 02 16:58:25 <allthefoxes> "we fired someone"
  669. Jul 02 16:58:26 <krispykrackers> I don’t think it’s /r/blog worthy
  670. Jul 02 16:58:27 <rya> fack
  671. Jul 02 16:58:28 <stopscopiesme> who the fuck is even in charge of reddit? I’ve never been able to figure it out. who is actually responsible for major decisions? kn0thing? ellen pao? the board?
  672. Jul 02 16:58:33 <rya> well thats too bad
  673. Jul 02 16:58:43 <allthefoxes> stopscopiesme, reddits board is Ellen, Alexis, and some dude from Advanced
  674. Jul 02 16:58:47 <rya> well it is true i guess.. reddit has fired people before
  675. Jul 02 16:58:50 <Meneth> krispykrackers: Two defaults going private is a pretty big deal.
  676. Jul 02 16:58:56 <krispykrackers> yeah
  677. Jul 02 16:58:59 <krispykrackers> I’m in crisis mode
  678. Jul 02 16:59:00 <EvilNight> and rather unprecedented tbh
  679. Jul 02 16:59:09 <creesch> werner__herzog: Now I am wondering if I got replies to my comment, locked threads are pretty awesome :P
  680. Jul 02 16:59:12 <krispykrackers> I have no idea wtf to do, to be perfectly crystal clear with you guys
  681. Jul 02 16:59:17 <allthefoxes> Talk to Alexis
  682. Jul 02 16:59:18 <cwenham> There's a lot of Kremlin-Watching going on.
  683. Jul 02 16:59:19 <allthefoxes> Talk to ellen
  684. Jul 02 16:59:23 <allthefoxes> Tell them what we are saying
  685. Jul 02 16:59:27 <Meneth> krispykrackers: Sounds like you know just about as much as we do.
  686. Jul 02 16:59:28 <rya> krispykrackers u r a community manager right? i have never understood what you do now lol
  687. Jul 02 16:59:30 <EvilNight> look we could all go muntiy mode and shut down most subs in private mode for a day in protest... but to what end, what good would it do
  688. Jul 02 16:59:32 <stopscopiesme> is there anyone we should be complaining to? I feel like the admins who actually talk to us (like you) have very limited authority
  689. Jul 02 16:59:38 <allthefoxes> but thats the thing
  690. Jul 02 16:59:39 <allthefoxes> at reddit
  691. Jul 02 16:59:45 <EvilNight> does anyone expect them to care or do anything other than boot all the mod teams?
  692. Jul 02 16:59:49 <agentlame> Try none at all.
  693. Jul 02 16:59:50 <allthefoxes> They act like a company of 2000 people
  694. Jul 02 16:59:54 <allthefoxes> when they have a team of 60
  695. Jul 02 16:59:58 <allthefoxes> They split up these tasks
  696. Jul 02 17:00:04 <allthefoxes> and every team just does their fucking thing
  697. Jul 02 17:00:13 <stopscopiesme> also agentlame, I called out go1dfish on his alt. no zinger though
  698. Jul 02 17:00:22 <allthefoxes> Like
  699. Jul 02 17:00:28 <Meneth> I mean, compartmentalization is important. You simply don't have the time to let everyone know everything.
  700. Jul 02 17:00:32 <allthefoxes> There is no reason why every admin can't be involved in /r/beta
  701. Jul 02 17:00:34 <creesch> allthefoxes: well if you have a shitton of halfway finished or abandoned projects that are standing in the way I can understand you sort of have issues focussing
  702. Jul 02 17:00:37 <andytuba> allthefoxes: wait what
  703. Jul 02 17:00:37 <werner__herzog> creesch, I'm getting orange reds and then they disappear again, I have to hunt my replies down, too :D
  704. Jul 02 17:00:41 <agentlame> goldfish could have been the meta news of the day.
  705. Jul 02 17:00:46 <andytuba> there are plenty of reasons
  706. Jul 02 17:00:51 <allthefoxes> right
  707. Jul 02 17:00:53 <agentlame> Thanks based admins for burning reddit!
  708. Jul 02 17:00:55 <Meneth> I work for Paradox Interactive for example, but I have literally no idea what any of their unannounced games are.
  709. Jul 02 17:00:57 <allthefoxes> im not saying people can't have tasks
  710. Jul 02 17:00:59 <creesch> werner__herzog: can you check my comment pretty please? :D
  711. Jul 02 17:01:03 <rya> waaaaaa
  712. Jul 02 17:01:14 <allthefoxes> im saying that, i.e. search: The CMs were basically not involved?
  713. Jul 02 17:01:17 <rya> wat u doin agentlame ? looking at the fire ?
  714. Jul 02 17:01:20 <werner__herzog> no replies
  715. Jul 02 17:01:25 <allthefoxes> Why would community managers not be involed with /r/beta
  716. Jul 02 17:01:41 <allthefoxes> Why wouldnt our feedback about the new search not get talked about, changed, and the search be still in beta
  717. Jul 02 17:01:46 <allthefoxes> communication meltdown
  718. Jul 02 17:01:47 <agentlame> rya: I'm wondering why the admins break mod tools and then ignore the feedback.
  719. Jul 02 17:01:57 <agentlame> But that's now small fries.
  720. Jul 02 17:01:59 <allthefoxes> Thats all reddit really needs to fix, to make things start to get better
  721. Jul 02 17:02:01 <krispykrackers> We know what’s happening in /r/beta. Unfortunately we (meaning the communtiy team as well as the community) don’t have final say in what gets implemented.
  722. Jul 02 17:02:06 <allthefoxes> But you should
  723. Jul 02 17:02:07 <rya> oh u know the reason right agentlame
  724. Jul 02 17:02:07 <allthefoxes> is what I mean
  725. Jul 02 17:02:11 <krispykrackers> well
  726. Jul 02 17:02:11 <creesch> When a majority of the people that run your site rely on a third party extension and you focus on search and make it even worse for the same group something is clearly wrong.
  727. Jul 02 17:02:15 <allthefoxes> theres no reason you shouldnt, in my eyes at least
  728. Jul 02 17:02:29 <allthefoxes> i obviously dont work there, I cant say anything like I know it to be true
  729. Jul 02 17:02:46 <allthefoxes> and im sorry if I am, bad habit maybe
  730. Jul 02 17:03:04 <greenduch> btw, to mod teams that have gone private, solidarity, and best of luck to yall.
  731. Jul 02 17:03:08 <rya> oh man this is an important conversations happening here
  732. Jul 02 17:03:14 <rya> its bound to be leaked
  733. Jul 02 17:03:16 <krispykrackers> I tend to agree, but on the other hand, they feel that they should be able to implement changes for the health of the site and the site’s growth outside of community opinion. They have a certain point - they should be allowed to experiment and try new things. Unfortunately they don’t always mesh with people like us - the long term, mod-heavy, old-school community
  734. Jul 02 17:03:19 <allthefoxes> But I just dont understand why a team that manages a community cant have a say in relaying what users are saying to devs and engineers
  735. Jul 02 17:03:21 <agentlame> What all subs are private?
  736. Jul 02 17:03:21 <creesch> greenduch: have other defaults gone private that I missed?
  737. Jul 02 17:03:23 <krispykrackers> they think about new users and logged out users and things like that
  738. Jul 02 17:03:24 <EvilNight> What I see is a 1990s publishing mentality being applied to a 2010s social media platform - aka a cluster of fucks most high
  739. Jul 02 17:03:24 <rya> HI MOM HI DAD
  740. Jul 02 17:03:43 <greenduch> i believe iama and rscience
  741. Jul 02 17:03:43 <allthefoxes> krispykrackers, thats fiar, but a complete search overhaul could be argued to be far from minor
  742. Jul 02 17:03:47 <creesch> krispykrackers: for the health of the website wouldn't you agree that the people that maintain that health had the proper tools?
  743. Jul 02 17:03:48 <greenduch> not sure about others
  744. Jul 02 17:04:02 <creesch> Obviously you don't need to answer that
  745. Jul 02 17:04:04 <allthefoxes> And honestly, this is a community website
  746. Jul 02 17:04:06 <rya> heh let krispy reply to one comment atleast
  747. Jul 02 17:04:08 <greenduch> also folks please try to be gentle to kk in here.
  748. Jul 02 17:04:14 <allthefoxes> i do love you kk
  749. Jul 02 17:04:17 <x_minus_one> wait, that search page made it out of beta?
  750. Jul 02 17:04:18 <allthefoxes> and i know this is not easy on you
  751. Jul 02 17:04:27 <allthefoxes> <3 so much, not trying to be hard on you
  752. Jul 02 17:04:29 <allthefoxes> just venting a bit
  753. Jul 02 17:04:35 <creesch> I mean, you are here trying to talk to us while the people that actually decide these things are silent.
  754. Jul 02 17:04:42 <rya> well she cant do much foxes
  755. Jul 02 17:04:44 <EvilNight> exactly
  756. Jul 02 17:04:47 <creesch> So it isn't even fair for me to ask
  757. Jul 02 17:04:48 <greenduch> we love you kk im sorry you have to deal with our bitching <3 though i think its pretty understable that people are upset, it sucks youre the person who has to deal with it <3
  758. Jul 02 17:05:00 <rya> krispykrackers ^
  759. Jul 02 17:05:03 <x_minus_one> and we appreciate you actually talking to us <3
  760. Jul 02 17:05:05 <allthefoxes> It just doesn't make sense to me, that a community website that is ltierally based around the ideas of COMMUNITY would make changes without at least CONSIDERING that communty
  761. Jul 02 17:05:17 <greenduch> i was intentionally not pinging her, rya , so she wasnt getting pinged every line :p
  762. Jul 02 17:05:25 <rya> ah
  763. Jul 02 17:05:26 <creesch> greenduch: pls
  764. Jul 02 17:05:26 <allthefoxes> I get that maybe you want to make changes and shit, that arent to heavily involved
  765. Jul 02 17:05:33 <creesch> oh
  766. Jul 02 17:05:35 <allthefoxes> but,the community should be at least considered
  767. Jul 02 17:05:36 <allthefoxes> to me
  768. Jul 02 17:05:36 <creesch> You answered
  769. Jul 02 17:05:43 <allthefoxes> anyways, I don't like bitching this much, I need a drink
  770. Jul 02 17:05:52 <allthefoxes> what am i talking about i love bitching about everything
  771. Jul 02 17:05:57 <EvilNight> aye, this does call for a drink, or three
  772. Jul 02 17:06:01 <rya> asking for admins feedback agentlame ?
  773. Jul 02 17:06:01 <allthefoxes> im a reddit mod after all
  774. Jul 02 17:06:03 <rya> agentlame pls
  775. Jul 02 17:06:04 <allthefoxes> ayyyyyy
  776. Jul 02 17:06:14 <EvilNight> if we were in a pub I'd buy the first round
  777. Jul 02 17:06:22 <agentlame> rya: according to krispy I didn't. :p
  778. Jul 02 17:06:22 <cwenham> I don't think any of us would mind if KK "leaked" this #modtalk conversation to Alexis and Ellen.
  779. Jul 02 17:06:34 <rya> hehe
  780. Jul 02 17:06:35 <rya> gud gud
  781. Jul 02 17:06:43 <rya> i m afraid of how things are going
  782. Jul 02 17:07:25 <rya> well victoria is gone
  783. Jul 02 17:07:29 <krispykrackers> I mean, I’m a community manager. I think I should have final say in EVERYTHING that happens to reddit because I listen to you guys and you guys are all smarter than I am. Unfortunately we’re not a small startup anymore and we’re restricted to teams now. The community team, outside of deimorz and lately weffey, doesn’t implement features, and really never implement UI features, mostly admin/mod tools and spam tools and things
  784. Jul 02 17:07:29 <krispykrackers> like that.
  785. Jul 02 17:07:51 <rya> ah
  786. Jul 02 17:08:05 <stopscopiesme> is there anything we could do to pressure change?
  787. Jul 02 17:08:34 <Meneth> " mostly admin/mod tools and spam tools" That's what we need a lot more of, tho.
  788. Jul 02 17:08:35 <rya> well i appreciate all you have done krispykrackers .. I get the company is no more the old one and its pretty cut off i guess
  789. Jul 02 17:08:40 <agentlame> I guess that depends on how this little 'private default strike'\ goes.
  790. Jul 02 17:08:50 <krispykrackers> give me 5 minutes
  791. Jul 02 17:08:53 <krispykrackers> phone call
  792. Jul 02 17:08:53 <Meneth> Like creesch, every important sub shouldn't have to rely on a 3rd party extension in order to moderate properly.
  793. Jul 02 17:08:57 <x_minus_one> oh boy
  794. Jul 02 17:09:02 <Meneth> s/creesch/creesch said
  795. Jul 02 17:09:02 <gonzobot> Correction, <Meneth> Like creesch said, every important sub shouldn't have to rely on a 3rd party extension in order to moderate properly.
  796. Jul 02 17:09:34 <creesch> https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq9aou?context=3
  797. Jul 02 17:09:56 <creesch> toolbox has 6000 users, which is a huge amount of the active mods...
  798. Jul 02 17:10:09 <creesch> it never ever gotten this popular
  799. Jul 02 17:10:15 <creesch> *should
  800. Jul 02 17:10:34 <agentlame> Well...
  801. Jul 02 17:10:43 <creesch> The only reason it did is because it fills a huge gap in needed tools
  802. Jul 02 17:10:44 <agentlame> It does have a queue ketteh also.
  803. Jul 02 17:10:56 <EvilNight> reddit's community wields the total power here, but the crux of a protest of any kind is making it constructuve instead of destructive
  804. Jul 02 17:11:04 <rya> u kno... i think kn0thing has lost his sight of what this site was
  805. Jul 02 17:11:05 <creesch> and frankly, sometimes it even does so poorly because we can't substitute server side stuff.
  806. Jul 02 17:11:08 <agentlame> That's easily worth 10k installs.
  807. Jul 02 17:11:14 <lucastars> just don't go go1dfish protest
  808. Jul 02 17:11:17 <Meneth> EvilNight: Reddit doesn't really have the tools for that.
  809. Jul 02 17:11:19 <creesch> agentlame: kitteh totally is
  810. Jul 02 17:11:35 <EvilNight> yeah, Iv'e heard that excuse before
  811. Jul 02 17:11:38 <Meneth> And strikes can be incredibly effective in real life.
  812. Jul 02 17:11:41 <Flashynuff> and that's what it comes back to, isn't it, meneth: lack of tools
  813. Jul 02 17:11:43 <lucastars> if you can even call what he did and/or is doing a protest
  814. Jul 02 17:11:48 <EvilNight> grow balls, write code, a $50m warchest can pay for a lot of top programming talent
  815. Jul 02 17:11:49 <Meneth> Norwegian society is basically built on the threat of strikes.
  816. Jul 02 17:12:46 <allthefoxes> krispykrackers, but..thats what I still dont understand..I said it in defaultmods. Yeah, you arent a little startup..but you are a group of SIXTY people. Thats nothing. Absolutely nothing. Different then 20? Yes, but reddit needs to figure out how it wants to be run. Does it want to be run like it has 6000 emplyees, or 60
  817. Jul 02 17:12:55 <allthefoxes> its been acting like it has 6000, and its not working
  818. Jul 02 17:13:03 <allthefoxes> at least, from a community perspective
  819. Jul 02 17:13:05 <krispykrackers> yes
  820. Jul 02 17:13:06 <EvilNight> I've been a broken record for seven years... all the problems we see can be solved by coding new features into the website, most of them are in fact trivial solutions other sites perfected long ago... yet this never happens
  821. Jul 02 17:13:10 <allthefoxes> maybe from a numbers perspective, it is!
  822. Jul 02 17:13:20 <krispykrackers> I can walk over to tdohz’s desk and say “hey I think this feature is a bad idea, check out this thread"
  823. Jul 02 17:13:31 <krispykrackers> but ultimately I am not their boss and don’t have final say in what gets done
  824. Jul 02 17:13:33 <krispykrackers> on her team
  825. Jul 02 17:13:36 <allthefoxes> But then what you say gets thrown out
  826. Jul 02 17:13:37 <allthefoxes> right
  827. Jul 02 17:13:42 <allthefoxes> and that really sucks
  828. Jul 02 17:13:43 <rya> well i doubt anything we say here does anything allthefoxes .. she doesnt really have to power to do anything and the peson who does that wont listen to anyone
  829. Jul 02 17:13:51 <allthefoxes> Im not saying she does
  830. Jul 02 17:13:57 <EvilNight> the ideas are out there krispy, god knows theory of reddit alone has created stacks of scijourno-level papers on how to make things better
  831. Jul 02 17:14:00 <allthefoxes> I dont expect kk to do a damn thing
  832. Jul 02 17:14:01 <rya> then what r u saying
  833. Jul 02 17:14:07 <EvilNight> how do we get them to listen to that and take action, that's the rub
  834. Jul 02 17:14:09 <rya> and y r u saying it
  835. Jul 02 17:14:10 <allthefoxes> I'm just explaining what I see
  836. Jul 02 17:14:17 <allthefoxes> so maybe there is some different perspective
  837. Jul 02 17:14:24 <rya> different what ?
  838. Jul 02 17:14:33 <Meneth> A great example of reddit's failure to communicate: /r/snoogaming.
  839. Jul 02 17:14:37 <rya> i dont get it
  840. Jul 02 17:14:46 <Meneth> Finally it looked like we were actually getting heard. And then the admin in charge of that got laid off.
  841. Jul 02 17:14:54 <Meneth> And no one picked up the slack.
  842. Jul 02 17:14:55 <allthefoxes> Obv kk is not thdoz's boss, but if kk has to go so far to say "Hey, people are bringing this up, its pretty serious" and it still gets thrown out, something is clearly wrong
  843. Jul 02 17:15:05 <rya> oh they know
  844. Jul 02 17:15:06 <krispykrackers> it’s not that it gets thrown out
  845. Jul 02 17:15:10 <krispykrackers> they just view it differently
  846. Jul 02 17:15:19 <allthefoxes> And look what its done
  847. Jul 02 17:15:21 <allthefoxes> hahaha
  848. Jul 02 17:15:29 <rya> like how krispykrackers ?
  849. Jul 02 17:15:42 <allthefoxes> I'll pen it down in my "book of reddit fuck ups, Vol. 19"
  850. Jul 02 17:15:55 <rya> u shud post in r/tifu
  851. Jul 02 17:15:58 <allthefoxes> lol
  852. Jul 02 17:16:01 <rya> i wonder if kn0thing will post one
  853. Jul 02 17:16:08 <rya> tifu by firing victoria
  854. Jul 02 17:16:09 <allthefoxes> TIFU by laying off Victoria
  855. Jul 02 17:16:11 <rya> hehe
  856. Jul 02 17:16:15 <Nesquik> it would break the sub
  857. Jul 02 17:16:15 <rya> i will approve it
  858. Jul 02 17:16:17 <rya> haha
  859. Jul 02 17:16:25 <Nesquik> top of all in minutes
  860. Jul 02 17:16:35 <Nesquik> more popular then jenny
  861. Jul 02 17:17:02 <werner__herzog> > tifu by firing victoria
  862. Jul 02 17:17:04 <werner__herzog> nice!
  863. Jul 02 17:17:11 <allthefoxes> But, like, what I mean is just that..as a team, the team could have these inpouts. Youre not the boss, clearly..but if something gets said, it should be heard. And if enough users are saying it, they dont see it that way, you go up to them, they still don't see it, then somehting is ust going wrong
  864. Jul 02 17:17:17 <krispykrackers> rya, they look at data and bounce rates and page depths and stuff
  865. Jul 02 17:17:29 <krispykrackers> X feature cause Y growth
  866. Jul 02 17:17:30 <krispykrackers> etc
  867. Jul 02 17:17:33 <rya> oh
  868. Jul 02 17:17:35 <allthefoxes> thats not "seeing things differently", thats "ignoring the community" when things cause this much trouble
  869. Jul 02 17:17:35 <rya> the numbes
  870. Jul 02 17:17:41 <rya> well thats great
  871. Jul 02 17:17:47 <allthefoxes> And ofc they dont really want to do somehting for the community
  872. Jul 02 17:17:49 <allthefoxes> I can understand that
  873. Jul 02 17:17:54 <rya> as i was saying
  874. Jul 02 17:17:59 <allthefoxes> but, like, its a website founded on the principle of communities
  875. Jul 02 17:18:06 <rya> kn0thin has lost sight of what this sub is i guess
  876. Jul 02 17:18:07 <rya> lol
  877. Jul 02 17:18:12 <greenduch> thats fine, let them look at the bounce rate when IAMA and rscience have their doors closed :p
  878. Jul 02 17:18:15 <allthefoxes> kek
  879. Jul 02 17:18:20 <rya> hehe
  880. Jul 02 17:18:28 <rya> i guess numbers will start speaking
  881. Jul 02 17:18:38 <greenduch> kn0thin hasnt had on-the-ground reddit experience in like a fucking decade
  882. Jul 02 17:18:51 <allthefoxes> but thats just the thing for me. If the community says something, through our lips, or through kks lips.
  883. Jul 02 17:18:59 <Meneth> Pissing off all the big mods is always a great idea.
  884. Jul 02 17:19:01 <greenduch> he's an executive chairman with his head in the clouds, he is disconnected from how reddit aactually functions
  885. Jul 02 17:19:06 <Meneth> What could possibly go wrong.
  886. Jul 02 17:19:07 <allthefoxes> It needs to be taken into a deeper look
  887. Jul 02 17:19:07 <stopscopiesme> krispykrackers: I’m in crisis mode
  888. Jul 02 17:19:10 <rya> well dey had admins who actually cared before
  889. Jul 02 17:19:13 <teaearlgraycold> ELI5 might shut down
  890. Jul 02 17:19:16 <allthefoxes> good
  891. Jul 02 17:19:18 <rya> now all dat is left is krispy and deimorz
  892. Jul 02 17:19:21 <allthefoxes> This gets better by the minute
  893. Jul 02 17:19:26 <stopscopiesme> oopss sorry for the ping
  894. Jul 02 17:19:47 <greenduch> props to ELI5, frankly
  895. Jul 02 17:19:48 <EvilNight> frankly krispky, I'm used to being able to walk into my boss' office and tell him off in a rant... this is why I work at smaller startups mostly, the boss isn't such an egomaniac that he can't handle criticism
  896. Jul 02 17:19:55 <allthefoxes> kk can't do a damn thing about this, but kn0thing and the chairman can. No one excpects victria to come back (anyone who does is a retard)
  897. Jul 02 17:19:56 <EvilNight> I don't know how you tolerate it, I've never been able to :P
  898. Jul 02 17:20:03 <zaikanekochan> politics is debating it, as well.
  899. Jul 02 17:20:03 <Meneth> Heh, circlejerk has gone private. Not really a surprise.
  900. Jul 02 17:20:04 <The1RGood> I know drunken_economist cares
  901. Jul 02 17:20:11 <Meneth> "If you have any concerns, please contact circlejerk at: berniesandersforpresident@reddit.com"
  902. Jul 02 17:20:12 <allthefoxes> but reddit needs to step up the bar for communication
  903. Jul 02 17:20:13 <EvilNight> lol
  904. Jul 02 17:20:14 <kwiztas> krispykrackers, do you think more subs should join science.
  905. Jul 02 17:20:17 <agentlame> If I could get once open answer form the admins, I think it would be if kn0thing plays a fiddle in the office. krispykrackers, any insight?
  906. Jul 02 17:20:23 <rya> well yea but not like the previous admins The1RGood
  907. Jul 02 17:20:23 <agentlame> one*
  908. Jul 02 17:20:24 <allthefoxes> no cause that would make her job a nightmare kwiztas
  909. Jul 02 17:20:25 <joyouscacophony> Meneth: I think they've been private for a week now?
  910. Jul 02 17:20:26 <allthefoxes> it already is
  911. Jul 02 17:20:27 <allthefoxes> ^^
  912. Jul 02 17:20:35 <krispykrackers> no, I don’t know what privatizing defaults is supposed to do other than punish the subscribers
  913. Jul 02 17:20:38 <Meneth> joyouscacophony: Well, they've updated their description at least.
  914. Jul 02 17:20:47 <krispykrackers> I can see /r/IAmA, they are literally unhinged
  915. Jul 02 17:20:49 <allthefoxes> Well, it will certainly change those numbers
  916. Jul 02 17:20:51 <rya> i guess u r right kk
  917. Jul 02 17:20:53 <joyouscacophony> Good on them, really
  918. Jul 02 17:21:03 <EvilNight> well, if all defaults went private for a day, linking to an open letter to reddit, shit would go down for sure
  919. Jul 02 17:21:07 <The1RGood> I think privitizing defaults is supposed to "get subs on board" or something
  920. Jul 02 17:21:10 <allthefoxes> if they wont listen to community, maybe numbers could get someone to do SOMETHING about this communication idea
  921. Jul 02 17:21:11 <The1RGood> kinda like the wikipedia blackout
  922. Jul 02 17:21:15 <EvilNight> but that's more likely to be destructive than constructive
  923. Jul 02 17:21:19 <The1RGood> back when that happened
  924. Jul 02 17:21:21 <EvilNight> this shouldn't require a public protest
  925. Jul 02 17:21:26 <Meneth> krispykrackers: Reddit did their thing for SOPA a few years ago.
  926. Jul 02 17:21:30 <EvilNight> the fact that there are a fuckload of concerned mods here should be enough
  927. Jul 02 17:21:35 <allthefoxes> I get the facebook might want to look at numbers rather than people
  928. Jul 02 17:21:36 <krispykrackers> that was politically based
  929. Jul 02 17:21:40 <allthefoxes> but reddit is a site about community
  930. Jul 02 17:21:41 <joyouscacophony> If more defaults went private to drive an admin response... I don't know
  931. Jul 02 17:21:58 <greenduch> i think shutting down things is literally the only power that mods that isnt just whining. and whining for years hasnt done anything.
  932. Jul 02 17:22:02 <EvilNight> well what's the worst that can happen - they change the defaults to other subs
  933. Jul 02 17:22:03 <The1RGood> I'm focusing more on effect than motive, but yea, I know what you mean
  934. Jul 02 17:22:06 <allthefoxes> nothing should really get done without the community being involved, search pages, or site changes that will drastically change one of the biggest subs on the site
  935. Jul 02 17:22:07 <EvilNight> that would be a good thing imo
  936. Jul 02 17:22:21 <allthefoxes> the whole "Oh well the numbers say this" clearly isn;t working for reddit
  937. Jul 02 17:22:24 <EvilNight> they ban all old default mod teams - well, we take our bots and go home, the subs die
  938. Jul 02 17:22:28 <allthefoxes> for the community at least
  939. Jul 02 17:22:30 <Nesquik> Meneth, it pushed their agenda then
  940. Jul 02 17:22:34 <redtaboo> i think shutting down subs that aren't specifically effective will just look petty and not get the outcome people want
  941. Jul 02 17:22:48 <redtaboo> s/effective/effected
  942. Jul 02 17:22:48 <gonzobot> Correction, <redtaboo> i think shutting down subs that aren't specifically effected will just look petty and not get the outcome people want
  943. Jul 02 17:22:49 <EvilNight> but I worry they'll figure out a way to respond that is so spectacularly supid it actually destroys the website
  944. Jul 02 17:22:58 <andytuba> redtaboo: affected :p
  945. Jul 02 17:23:03 <redtaboo> :p
  946. Jul 02 17:23:06 <redtaboo> ty andytuba
  947. Jul 02 17:23:14 <joyouscacophony> when in doubt, impacted is my friend :)
  948. Jul 02 17:23:20 <Meneth> redtaboo: All subs are affected by how terrible reddit's communication is.
  949. Jul 02 17:23:24 <joyouscacophony> ^
  950. Jul 02 17:23:24 <rya> oh hi redtaboo how is ur cat
  951. Jul 02 17:23:24 <andytuba> works with both subreddits and teeth, joyouscacophony
  952. Jul 02 17:23:27 <redtaboo> ohhh.. good ti[, joyouscacophony !
  953. Jul 02 17:23:39 <redtaboo> cats are great, thank rya!
  954. Jul 02 17:23:45 <allthefoxes> Im fine with subs going down. Idk about taking down my own, but im fine with it
  955. Jul 02 17:23:56 <rya> noice
  956. Jul 02 17:23:58 <allthefoxes> if people whining doesnt do anything, numbers will do something
  957. Jul 02 17:24:01 <redtaboo> Meneth they are all impacted, but every sub soing so would dilute the message, IMO
  958. Jul 02 17:24:08 <Meneth> All my subs are below 40k subs, and they too are affected by how shit communication is.
  959. Jul 02 17:24:15 <rya> redtaboo, do u rub ur cat's belly
  960. Jul 02 17:24:21 <Meneth> I reported a brigade two weeks ago for example. Fuck all happened. Never got a response.
  961. Jul 02 17:24:23 <allthefoxes> ANYWAYS
  962. Jul 02 17:24:25 <allthefoxes> I need a drink
  963. Jul 02 17:24:26 <redtaboo> i do! I did a few minutes ago even
  964. Jul 02 17:24:31 <allthefoxes> KK needs a drink too
  965. Jul 02 17:24:34 <allthefoxes> go get one kk
  966. Jul 02 17:24:41 <rya> pls post vid of rubbing the cat belly redtaboo
  967. Jul 02 17:24:48 <redtaboo> OMG DOX
  968. Jul 02 17:24:49 <kwiztas> just hit the bong calm down
  969. Jul 02 17:24:49 <rya> i wud pay in cupcakes
  970. Jul 02 17:25:02 <rya> boo u redtaboo i just want to see cat belly
  971. Jul 02 17:25:03 <stopscopiesme> lol kk is going to be working late into tonight, I bet
  972. Jul 02 17:25:11 <stopscopiesme> no drinks for her
  973. Jul 02 17:25:20 <redtaboo> s/more/no
  974. Jul 02 17:25:20 <gonzobot> Correction, <The1RGood> I'm focusing no on effect than motive, but yea, I know what you mean
  975. Jul 02 17:25:27 <redtaboo> hrm
  976. Jul 02 17:25:31 <redtaboo> bad gonzobot
  977. Jul 02 17:25:41 <redtaboo> i was correcting stops not 1r
  978. Jul 02 17:25:45 <The1RGood> lol
  979. Jul 02 17:25:49 <rya> > mfw redtaboo wont post her cat vids
  980. Jul 02 17:25:54 <rya> ( .__.)
  981. Jul 02 17:26:01 <agentlame> It's backwards. :p
  982. Jul 02 17:26:04 <allthefoxes> really tho, that just seems like some hot bs to me
  983. Jul 02 17:26:32 <allthefoxes> Regardless of what numbers say, when people say "Hey, this critical part of the site breaks using this new thing"
  984. Jul 02 17:26:45 <allthefoxes> thats not even a numbers thing. Everyone will get mad at redesigns
  985. Jul 02 17:27:03 <krispykrackers> what are you talking about specifically?
  986. Jul 02 17:27:16 <rya> well this will work out i guess allthefoxes .. reddit will prob just hire someone else and bring it back to normal
  987. Jul 02 17:27:30 <allthefoxes> You cant moderate from the new search krispykrackers
  988. Jul 02 17:27:52 <krispykrackers> ahh gotcha
  989. Jul 02 17:27:55 <krispykrackers> right
  990. Jul 02 17:28:17 <agentlame> \o/ we did it, reddit!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.reddit.com/r/defaultmods/comments/3bvy6k/an_open_letter_to_the_admins_pls_sthap/csqbhdd?context=3
  991. Jul 02 17:28:17 <gonzobot> HOOHAH!
  992. Jul 02 17:28:20 <allthefoxes> thats what I meant btw
  993. Jul 02 17:28:21 <andytuba> thought i saw a note from tdohz that there's already a roadmap for mod tools on new search and ?feature=legacy_search int he meanwhile?
  994. Jul 02 17:28:22 <allthefoxes> krispykrackers,
  995. Jul 02 17:28:39 <allthefoxes> I didnt mean the redesign, people get mad at a line spacing increase
  996. Jul 02 17:28:58 <allthefoxes> I meant the mod tools not working on search
  997. Jul 02 17:29:18 <krispykrackers> I hear you allthefoxes
  998. Jul 02 17:29:29 <krispykrackers> madlee looks like he’s going to address it
  999. Jul 02 17:29:41 <allthefoxes> More than a few people brought it up, and I have a sneaking feeling that it wouldnt have been "forgotten about" if everyone had that input on the UI
  1000. Jul 02 17:29:45 <allthefoxes> rather than the UI team ;)
  1001. Jul 02 17:30:04 <rya> lol cupcake
  1002. Jul 02 17:30:05 <rya> https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riama_set_to_private_over_mod_firing/csq88bq
  1003. Jul 02 17:30:05 <gonzobot> (rya) /r/IAmA set to private over mod firing : SubredditDrama - 865 comments, 1,193 points - eonOne, 2h ago
  1004. Jul 02 17:30:32 <allthefoxes> people will alwyas always always say "this new thing is ass"
  1005. Jul 02 17:30:43 <allthefoxes> but the new search was ACTUALLY ass, :(
  1006. Jul 02 17:31:14 <allthefoxes> Also personally I think clicking on a link should take you to the link not the comments but thats just my thought
  1007. Jul 02 17:31:23 <andytuba> allthefoxes chill your hyperbole
  1008. Jul 02 17:31:28 <allthefoxes> never
  1009. Jul 02 17:31:29 <andytuba> yes, it breaks toolbox
  1010. Jul 02 17:31:35 <andytuba> however
  1011. Jul 02 17:31:38 <andytuba> it is a reasonable layout
  1012. Jul 02 17:31:45 <allthefoxes> Im not arguing about the layout
  1013. Jul 02 17:31:47 <allthefoxes> the layout is fine
  1014. Jul 02 17:31:52 <allthefoxes> Im saying you literally cant moderate from it
  1015. Jul 02 17:31:54 <allthefoxes> extensions or not
  1016. Jul 02 17:32:08 <XenoBen> !image gonwild
  1017. Jul 02 17:32:08 <imagebot> XenoBen: http://i.giphy.com/3oEdvb83TflUW6KTNm.gif [NSFW] - "I was hypnotized by the pulsing void." submitted 3 months ago by vt_pete to /r/gonwild [34] (http://redd.it/30x9r9) [3 comments]
  1018. Jul 02 17:32:21 <andytuba> okay fine it's ass for moderation
  1019. Jul 02 17:32:31 <allthefoxes> thats what i meant
  1020. Jul 02 17:32:34 <andytuba> then say it
  1021. Jul 02 17:32:37 <allthefoxes> Sorry for poor wording
  1022. Jul 02 17:32:41 <Soul_Shot> defaultmods right now
  1023. Jul 02 17:32:42 <Soul_Shot> https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1398/05/1398050399281.png
  1024. Jul 02 17:32:51 <allthefoxes> axaxax
  1025. Jul 02 17:33:07 <Nesquik> Soul_Shot, did another one go private?
  1026. Jul 02 17:33:16 <Soul_Shot> well science and iama
  1027. Jul 02 17:33:17 <Soul_Shot> so far
  1028. Jul 02 17:33:19 <allthefoxes> i heard eli5 was thinking aout it
  1029. Jul 02 17:34:11 <x_minus_one> .yt 30 rock shut it down
  1030. Jul 02 17:34:12 <gonzobot> (x_minus_one) Shut It Down - length 2m 6s - 337 likes, 6 dislikes (98.3%) - 120,297 views - xrichybluex on 2012.10.21 - http://youtu.be/CJ8cjlEMLR0
  1031. Jul 02 17:34:17 <rya> oh wait
  1032. Jul 02 17:34:26 <rya> victoria is commenting
  1033. Jul 02 17:34:37 <rya> but i guess she cant say why she was fired
  1034. Jul 02 17:34:47 <rya> stupid NDA
  1035. Jul 02 17:34:53 <tizorres> where is she commenting?
  1036. Jul 02 17:34:56 <Soul_Shot> what if she blinked it in morse code
  1037. Jul 02 17:35:04 <rya> vhttps://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3bwev7/i_had_the_pleasure_of_meeting_uchooter_in_person/csq9q0z
  1038. Jul 02 17:35:05 <gonzobot> (rya) I had the pleasure of meeting u/chooter in person a few months ago.... : pics - 99 comments, 309 points - beernerd, 3h ago
  1039. Jul 02 17:35:09 <rya> here
  1040. Jul 02 17:35:09 <Soul_Shot> https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zcmfq/mark_karpeles_blinking_a_morse_code
  1041. Jul 02 17:35:10 <Soul_Shot> kek
  1042. Jul 02 17:35:10 <gonzobot> (Soul_Shot) Mark Karpeles blinking a morse code : Bitcoin - 146 comments, 33 points - cokea, 1y ago
  1043. Jul 02 17:35:16 <tizorres> thanks
  1044. Jul 02 17:37:09 <x_minus_one> bitcoiners always crack me up
  1045. Jul 02 17:37:36 <joyouscacophony> Which is actually a good thing for bitcoin...
  1046. Jul 02 17:38:18 <honestbleeps> I work for a bitcoin startup. I agree, x_minus_one. I'm hilarious.
  1047. Jul 02 17:38:25 <ManWithoutModem> i mined bitcoins when they were like 2 cents each on my university's internet with my pc and have thousands in bitcoin that i never sold ama
  1048. Jul 02 17:39:06 <gilgamesh> Does any have a list of private subreddits other than iama, CJ, and science?
  1049. Jul 02 17:39:25 <Soul_Shot> ManWithoutModem: can u gib me money pls
  1050. Jul 02 17:39:30 <rya> heh
  1051. Jul 02 17:39:35 <ManWithoutModem> what's c3
  1052. Jul 02 17:39:41 <joyouscacophony> I thought those were the only 2/3 gilgamesh
  1053. Jul 02 17:39:43 <x_minus_one> .lenny
  1054. Jul 02 17:39:43 <gonzobot> ( ͡o ͜ʖ ͡o)
  1055. Jul 02 17:39:52 <teaearlgraycold> gilgamesh, we could make a quick script
  1056. Jul 02 17:40:07 <ManWithoutModem> !mods space
  1057. Jul 02 17:40:07 <redditBot> r/space has 18 mods: tuber, oregono, ManWithoutModem, relic2279, kjoneslol, panickedthumb, Chezzik, ggitaliano, Walter_Bishop_PhD, Captainpatch, dhamster, EchoLogic, Waz_Met_Jou, SpaceSidebar, AutoModerator, EditingAndLayout, greatyellowshark, and cupcake1713
  1058. Jul 02 17:40:11 <ManWithoutModem> who wants to go private
  1059. Jul 02 17:40:16 <rya> ManWithoutModem, i m hiring u to find da mystery of victoria's murder. make us proud!
  1060. Jul 02 17:40:25 <rya> hehe
  1061. Jul 02 17:40:25 <Soul_Shot> circlejerk shoulda just changed css
  1062. Jul 02 17:40:29 <Soul_Shot> instead of making itactualyl private
  1063. Jul 02 17:40:29 <Soul_Shot> kek
  1064. Jul 02 17:40:35 <Soul_Shot> I still have css pages for banned/private
  1065. Jul 02 17:40:35 <allthefoxes> https://www.reddit.com/r/defaultmods/comments/3bw94t/riama_goes_private_after_victoria_uchooter_is_let/csqba7c?context=3
  1066. Jul 02 17:40:39 <Soul_Shot> and 503
  1067. Jul 02 17:40:42 <x_minus_one> I feel like nottheonion should make fun of it
  1068. Jul 02 17:40:43 <allthefoxes> wow kn0thing is out of the loop
  1069. Jul 02 17:40:48 <krispykrackers> Cj has been private for like a week
  1070. Jul 02 17:40:58 <rya> lol cj
  1071. Jul 02 17:41:06 <joyouscacophony> ^ and ^
  1072. Jul 02 17:41:19 <rya> ^^^^^
  1073. Jul 02 17:42:05 * allthefoxes pens this all down in "Reddit's book of fuck up's, vol. 14"
  1074. Jul 02 17:42:11 <x_minus_one> OOOH SOUL_SHOT
  1075. Jul 02 17:42:18 <x_minus_one> youdontsurf should go private
  1076. Jul 02 17:42:19 <Nesquik> I'm out of the loop, why is cj private?
  1077. Jul 02 17:42:30 <krispykrackers> can you guys please not nickname this in something that ends in “-enning” or “-gate”?
  1078. Jul 02 17:42:41 <zaikanekochan> Bannenninggate
  1079. Jul 02 17:42:43 <krispykrackers> let’s be more creative this time
  1080. Jul 02 17:42:47 <joyouscacophony> Chootgate
  1081. Jul 02 17:42:54 <andytuba> Victorinox :p
  1082. Jul 02 17:43:00 <joyouscacophony> The chootening
  1083. Jul 02 17:43:31 <zaikanekochan> I suggest adding "showzen" to the end
  1084. Jul 02 17:43:33 <creesch> https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/3bx1m0/ukarmanaut_and_ukn0thing_show_why_riama_is/
  1085. Jul 02 17:43:33 <gonzobot> (creesch) /u/karmanaut and /u/kn0thing show why /r/iama is private right now : bestof - 0 comments, 3 points - creesch, 22m ago
  1086. Jul 02 17:43:34 <gilgamesh> krispykrackers they've changed the private message
  1087. Jul 02 17:43:42 <rya> heh
  1088. Jul 02 17:43:45 <kwiztas> krispykrackers, didn't you know all conspiracies get gate since watergate?
  1089. Jul 02 17:43:54 <rya> paoooenning
  1090. Jul 02 17:43:56 <x_minus_one> krispenningkrackergate
  1091. Jul 02 17:43:56 <gilgamesh> to reflect that http://i.imgur.com/1lsMqw0.png
  1092. Jul 02 17:43:58 <rya> paogate
  1093. Jul 02 17:44:03 <stopscopiesme> watergate was a conspiracy about water
  1094. Jul 02 17:44:12 <joyouscacophony> ^ true fact
  1095. Jul 02 17:44:12 <kwiztas> you would think
  1096. Jul 02 17:44:17 <x_minus_one> ellen pao did 9/11
  1097. Jul 02 17:44:27 <rya> maybe pao is the reason california hasnt got much water
  1098. Jul 02 17:44:27 <kwiztas> ellen pao is nixon.
  1099. Jul 02 17:44:31 <rya> #watergate
  1100. Jul 02 17:44:48 <Meneth> "Victoria Times"
  1101. Jul 02 17:45:17 <zaikanekochan> Victorian Scandal.
  1102. Jul 02 17:45:33 <x_minus_one> the amappening
  1103. Jul 02 17:45:35 <allthefoxes> PAO right in the teeth
  1104. Jul 02 17:45:37 <Meneth> Victoria's Secret.
  1105. Jul 02 17:45:40 <krispykrackers> lol
  1106. Jul 02 17:45:40 <joyouscacophony> Victoria's sec...
  1107. Jul 02 17:45:41 <x_minus_one> YES
  1108. Jul 02 17:45:43 <joyouscacophony> damn it
  1109. Jul 02 17:45:44 <allthefoxes> LOL
  1110. Jul 02 17:45:58 <x_minus_one> Meneth wins
  1111. Jul 02 17:46:01 <allthefoxes> gg
  1112. Jul 02 17:46:04 <Meneth> Victoria's Secret Firing?
  1113. Jul 02 17:46:07 <kwiztas> i think that is officially the title
  1114. Jul 02 17:46:24 <kwiztas> unless they make it not a secret then...
  1115. Jul 02 17:46:31 <x_minus_one> Victoria's Secret Shame
  1116. Jul 02 17:46:34 <rya> OMG
  1117. Jul 02 17:46:35 <x_minus_one> VICTORIA'S SECRET REVEALED
  1118. Jul 02 17:46:38 <coloicito> Didn't someone else already made that joke over SRD?
  1119. Jul 02 17:46:40 <rya> SO THIS IS IT
  1120. Jul 02 17:46:42 <rya> FUCK
  1121. Jul 02 17:46:46 <Meneth> coloicito: Almost certainly.
  1122. Jul 02 17:46:48 <Meneth> I haven't seen it tho.
  1123. Jul 02 17:46:50 <joyouscacophony> titrc
  1124. Jul 02 17:46:55 <allthefoxes> well
  1125. Jul 02 17:46:56 <rya> HOW DID NO ONE PUT TOGETHER THE PIECES
  1126. Jul 02 17:46:59 <allthefoxes> im going to go out for a bit
  1127. Jul 02 17:47:01 <kwiztas> #VictoriasSecretFiring
  1128. Jul 02 17:47:08 <allthefoxes> please dont shut anymore subs down while im gone
  1129. Jul 02 17:47:12 <zaikanekochan> coloicito: yeah I saw it in SRD
  1130. Jul 02 17:47:13 <x_minus_one> PAO, RIGHT IN THE VICTORIA
  1131. Jul 02 17:47:18 <rya> haha
  1132. Jul 02 17:47:22 <coloicito> allthefoxes: ok, I'll hold on on making aa private then
  1133. Jul 02 17:47:24 <greenduch> yall are extremely silly
  1134. Jul 02 17:47:29 <gorillagnomes> I'm so sad about Victoria
  1135. Jul 02 17:47:31 <coloicito> Gotta cut the dank memes supply from the root
  1136. Jul 02 17:47:32 <gorillagnomes> she's so great.
  1137. Jul 02 17:47:37 <joyouscacophony> YOUR FACE IS SILLY!
  1138. Jul 02 17:47:42 <allthefoxes> maybe victoria tried to negotiate her salary huehuehue
  1139. Jul 02 17:47:45 <greenduch> also if i was victoria i think a victoria's secret joke would be really annoying to me
  1140. Jul 02 17:47:53 <zaikanekochan> Dank memes can't melt Victorian beams.
  1141. Jul 02 17:48:10 <ManWithoutModem> http://redd.it/3bx4vk
  1142. Jul 02 17:48:16 <x_minus_one> Dank feminazis can't melt victorian memes
  1143. Jul 02 17:48:17 <rya> lol foxes
  1144. Jul 02 17:48:23 <noeatnosleep> !op
  1145. Jul 02 17:48:23 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to noeatnosleep
  1146. Jul 02 17:48:25 <kwiztas> greenduch, you would probley be used to it if your name was victoria
  1147. Jul 02 17:48:39 <rya> boo noeatnosleep for leaving us ;__;
  1148. Jul 02 17:48:46 <kwiztas> yeah booo
  1149. Jul 02 17:48:49 <noeatnosleep> Aw
  1150. Jul 02 17:48:53 <zaikanekochan> yeah booo nens
  1151. Jul 02 17:48:54 <coloicito> 2dank4me, mwm
  1152. Jul 02 17:48:58 <zaikanekochan> You broke our hearts.
  1153. Jul 02 17:49:01 <noeatnosleep> I'm so mean!
  1154. Jul 02 17:49:04 <rya> yea
  1155. Jul 02 17:49:12 <rya> y u leave srotd noeatnosleep ;__;
  1156. Jul 02 17:49:12 <Gaget> This is the first time I can remember in the last couple years a default going private...
  1157. Jul 02 17:49:15 <rya> r/boou
  1158. Jul 02 17:49:19 <Gaget> Anyone know the last time?
  1159. Jul 02 17:49:22 <kwiztas> 2 i think
  1160. Jul 02 17:49:22 <Gaget> I can't remember.
  1161. Jul 02 17:49:24 --- noeatnosleep sets invite on R:blueshiftlabs
  1162. Jul 02 17:49:28 <Meneth> Why didn't I think of "Victoria's Secret Firing" earlier? I could probably have gotten a few hundred comment karma.
  1163. Jul 02 17:49:30 <joyouscacophony> COME BACK NENS
  1164. Jul 02 17:49:30 <noeatnosleep> !deop
  1165. Jul 02 17:49:30 --- ButtServ removes channel operator status from noeatnosleep
  1166. Jul 02 17:49:56 <blueshiftlabs> danke
  1167. Jul 02 17:49:57 <noeatnosleep> joyouscacophony: someday
  1168. Jul 02 17:50:10 <joyouscacophony> You Meneth? I was exactly 2 seconds behind you!
  1169. Jul 02 17:50:19 <rya> yea Meneth
  1170. Jul 02 17:50:23 <rya> totally
  1171. Jul 02 17:50:28 <rya> i shud make a meme
  1172. Jul 02 17:50:30 <rya> hmmm
  1173. Jul 02 17:50:34 <joyouscacophony> make it dank
  1174. Jul 02 17:50:34 <Meneth> "Bad Luck Meneth"
  1175. Jul 02 17:50:43 <Meneth> "Thinks of meme - Too late"
  1176. Jul 02 17:51:08 <coloicito> post it to me_irl
  1177. Jul 02 17:51:37 <krispykrackers> allthefoxes, you don’t have to reply to everything I post :)
  1178. Jul 02 17:51:43 <krispykrackers> I was hoping for an answer from nallen
  1179. Jul 02 17:51:50 <krispykrackers> he seems the most involved in the /r/science decision
  1180. Jul 02 17:51:58 <kerovon> nallen went offline shortly to drive home.
  1181. Jul 02 17:51:59 <krispykrackers> I’m honestly curious about what the goal here is
  1182. Jul 02 17:52:00 <krispykrackers> ahh
  1183. Jul 02 17:52:01 <krispykrackers> thanks
  1184. Jul 02 17:52:03 <krispykrackers> I can be patient
  1185. Jul 02 17:52:16 <kerovon> but the general feel in r science modmail and chats is that the response we got
  1186. Jul 02 17:52:26 <kerovon> didn't answer any of the questions we asked.
  1187. Jul 02 17:52:28 <coloicito> "haha, sucks to be you"?
  1188. Jul 02 17:52:34 <rya> maybe have a discussion on the r/science modmail krispykrackers ?
  1189. Jul 02 17:52:37 <rya> dat cud help
  1190. Jul 02 17:52:46 <krispykrackers> I mean, he posted in /r/defaultmods
  1191. Jul 02 17:52:50 <rya> well yea
  1192. Jul 02 17:53:00 <rya> but i doubt he is the face of the sub
  1193. Jul 02 17:53:02 <krispykrackers> why would you post about something if you weren’t opening it up for discussion
  1194. Jul 02 17:53:08 <noeatnosleep> krispykrackers: the goal is several fold.
  1195. Jul 02 17:53:08 <krispykrackers> no, but he is the face of the AMA’s
  1196. Jul 02 17:53:12 <rya> ah
  1197. Jul 02 17:53:23 <noeatnosleep> I recently quit three defaults mainly due to the lack of admin support.
  1198. Jul 02 17:53:29 <rya> lemme seeee
  1199. Jul 02 17:53:32 <allthefoxes> sorry kk
  1200. Jul 02 17:53:42 <allthefoxes> Im obviously <3
  1201. Jul 02 17:53:44 <allthefoxes> er
  1202. Jul 02 17:53:51 <allthefoxes> i dont know what i was typing there
  1203. Jul 02 17:53:56 <allthefoxes> anyways, <3
  1204. Jul 02 17:54:03 <tizorres> modmailing would show you are contacting the sub directly to try to answer their questions when they we redirected to AMA@reddit.com
  1205. Jul 02 17:54:16 <kerovon> I think what pushed science over was the nonanswers we got from admins.
  1206. Jul 02 17:54:24 <noeatnosleep> Our tools suck. You broke our search filters. You fired the only admin who actively engaged with us.
  1207. Jul 02 17:54:51 <ManWithoutModem> krispykrackers, take /r/askreddit private
  1208. Jul 02 17:54:55 <ManWithoutModem> pls
  1209. Jul 02 17:54:58 <joyouscacophony> ^ please
  1210. Jul 02 17:55:17 <x_minus_one> Can we not get kk fired plz?
  1211. Jul 02 17:55:25 <allthefoxes> yeah
  1212. Jul 02 17:55:25 <ManWithoutModem> she will be by tomorrow probs
  1213. Jul 02 17:55:26 <allthefoxes> lets not
  1214. Jul 02 17:55:29 <rya> he seems to be pissed krispykrackers heh
  1215. Jul 02 17:55:30 <ManWithoutModem> who knows
  1216. Jul 02 17:55:30 <allthefoxes> mwm so mean
  1217. Jul 02 17:55:35 <ManWithoutModem> wtf i love kk
  1218. Jul 02 17:55:39 <allthefoxes> me 2 <3
  1219. Jul 02 17:55:41 <redtaboo> [14:54] <noeatnosleep> Our tools suck. You broke our search filters. You fired the only admin who actively engaged with us. <-- I dont think putting everything on kk like that is likely to keep her talking to you in here
  1220. Jul 02 17:55:44 <ManWithoutModem> except for the time she vetod me in /r/askreddit
  1221. Jul 02 17:55:46 <ManWithoutModem> to be modded
  1222. Jul 02 17:55:48 <ManWithoutModem> because bep asked her to
  1223. Jul 02 17:55:52 <ManWithoutModem> when i had full support
  1224. Jul 02 17:55:56 <rya> wer is bep anyway
  1225. Jul 02 17:55:58 <noeatnosleep> redtaboo: I was answering a question.
  1226. Jul 02 17:56:01 <ManWithoutModem> being useless
  1227. Jul 02 17:56:04 <joyouscacophony> I don't think that was directed directly at kk redtaboo
  1228. Jul 02 17:56:05 <rya> havent seen him at all lol
  1229. Jul 02 17:56:13 <ManWithoutModem> yeah he's a joke
  1230. Jul 02 17:56:14 <rya> lol mwm
  1231. Jul 02 17:56:21 <noeatnosleep> I mean, I quit three defaults a week ago because of things tangentially related to this.
  1232. Jul 02 17:56:23 <rya> oh cmon he was super active
  1233. Jul 02 17:56:28 <ManWithoutModem> LOL
  1234. Jul 02 17:56:31 <gorillagnomes> why is everyone pissed at kk?
  1235. Jul 02 17:56:34 <ManWithoutModem> no one is
  1236. Jul 02 17:56:40 <rya> no one issssss
  1237. Jul 02 17:56:46 <ManWithoutModem> yo
  1238. Jul 02 17:56:47 <ManWithoutModem> idea
  1239. Jul 02 17:56:47 <rya> we hate knothin and pao now
  1240. Jul 02 17:56:49 <joyouscacophony> except that one asshole
  1241. Jul 02 17:56:58 <joyouscacophony> We don't talk about that fucker though
  1242. Jul 02 17:56:58 <ManWithoutModem> lets take subreddits private
  1243. Jul 02 17:57:03 <noeatnosleep> She probably doesn't even recognize my username,Ns my words don't mean much, but I was answering the question to the best of my ability.
  1244. Jul 02 17:57:07 <ManWithoutModem> !mods television
  1245. Jul 02 17:57:07 <redditBot> r/television has 11 mods: brtw, DasHuhn, hero0fwar, ManWithoutModem, Dorkside, atticus138, greatyellowshark, izzy, NicholasCajun, RaginApe, and AutoModerator
  1246. Jul 02 17:57:11 <tizorres> everytime I see 'kk' I think of kripy kremes and now i want a donut
  1247. Jul 02 17:57:11 <coloicito> What was that website that sorted subreddits by activity called?
  1248. Jul 02 17:57:14 <ManWithoutModem> you kiddies here
  1249. Jul 02 17:57:16 <noeatnosleep> No one is mad at KK
  1250. Jul 02 17:57:18 <joyouscacophony> You really wanna watch reddit burn today, eh ManWithoutModem
  1251. Jul 02 17:57:18 <ManWithoutModem> !mods showerthoughts
  1252. Jul 02 17:57:18 <redditBot> r/showerthoughts has 23 mods: drumcowski, keyboardcowsnowboard, ManWithoutModem, stopscopiesme, IAmAN00bie, Dacvak, Hardcorish, tizorres, yeneewsc, 5loon, palmairal, IranianGenius, TeaDranks, ThePis7olStar, CottonCandyTacos, mkhorn, Lilgherkin, Druxe0, Meowing_Cows, WaitForItTheMongols, illQualmOnYourFace, Chiggiz, and suchsmartveryiq
  1253. Jul 02 17:57:22 <kwiztas> i didn't know we were pissed at krispykrackers
  1254. Jul 02 17:57:22 <ManWithoutModem> private
  1255. Jul 02 17:57:24 <noeatnosleep> But she asked what the goal was.
  1256. Jul 02 17:57:27 <TheAppleFreak> coloicito: http://redditmetrics.com/
  1257. Jul 02 17:57:30 <coloicito> thanks
  1258. Jul 02 17:57:30 <Meneth> .mods ManWithoutModem
  1259. Jul 02 17:57:31 <gonzobot> (Meneth) r/ManWithoutModem mods: ManWithoutModem (4y) • kjoneslol (2y) • canipaybycheck (2y) • drumcowski (2y) • hero0fwar (2y) • spoderman_tim (2y) • cupcake1713 (2y) • jokes_on_you (1y) • kreius (1y) • soupyhands (1y) • Dacvak (1y) • AerateMark (1y) • Jaraxo (1y) • NotaMethAddict (1y) • atticus138 (1y) • EditingAndLayout (1y) • tuber (1y)...
  1260. Jul 02 17:57:31 <gonzobot> greatyellowshark (1y) • keepitcutthroat (263d) • pencer (32d)
  1261. Jul 02 17:57:37 <ManWithoutModem> Lol
  1262. Jul 02 17:57:41 <noeatnosleep> Let's not spam the bot, eh?
  1263. Jul 02 17:57:41 <Meneth> Damnit, that's not what I meant, gonzobot.
  1264. Jul 02 17:57:52 <noeatnosleep> Use a small channel for that?
  1265. Jul 02 17:57:53 <tizorres> .submods
  1266. Jul 02 17:57:55 <stopscopiesme> lol modem you dumdum, get in touch with drumcowski. hes the only one who can make that decision
  1267. Jul 02 17:58:05 <ManWithoutModem> i'd just do it
  1268. Jul 02 17:58:07 <ManWithoutModem> yolo
  1269. Jul 02 17:58:11 <ManWithoutModem> he wouldnt notice for a few days
  1270. Jul 02 17:58:12 <rya> we arent kwiztas
  1271. Jul 02 17:58:15 <rya> .__.
  1272. Jul 02 17:58:28 <coloicito> not that one, TheAppleFreak, it was one that sorted by activity, not just for subscribers/subscribers growth
  1273. Jul 02 17:58:32 <rya> i like krispy kreme donuts
  1274. Jul 02 17:58:33 <TheAppleFreak> oh
  1275. Jul 02 17:58:45 * tizorres secretly makes r/showerthoughts private
  1276. Jul 02 17:58:46 <ManWithoutModem> coloicito, mod me to /r/adviceanimals
  1277. Jul 02 17:58:50 <coloicito> no
  1278. Jul 02 17:58:54 <ManWithoutModem> mod me
  1279. Jul 02 17:58:54 <ManWithoutModem> to
  1280. Jul 02 17:58:55 * x_minus_one makes nottheonion private
  1281. Jul 02 17:58:56 <ManWithoutModem> r/
  1282. Jul 02 17:58:57 <ManWithoutModem> advice
  1283. Jul 02 17:58:58 <ManWithoutModem> animals
  1284. Jul 02 17:59:01 <creesch> https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/3bx1m0/ukarmanaut_and_ukn0thing_show_why_riama_is/
  1285. Jul 02 17:59:01 <gonzobot> (creesch) /u/karmanaut and /u/kn0thing show why /r/iama is private right now : bestof - 1 comment, 7 points - creesch, 38m ago
  1286. Jul 02 17:59:03 <stopscopiesme> I will literally text him if you make r/showerthoughts private
  1287. Jul 02 17:59:13 <kwiztas> oh btw krispykrackers you know there is a reddit user named krispykrackers1
  1288. Jul 02 17:59:13 <EvilNight> I used to be able to scroll back 6 years on the search tabs in listentothis, now I get like a page or two of results tops... is that a RES thing or did they actually limit the results returned from search?
  1289. Jul 02 17:59:16 <ManWithoutModem> like you'd even notice stops
  1290. Jul 02 17:59:23 <tizorres> lel
  1291. Jul 02 17:59:34 <ManWithoutModem> EvilNight, they limited it
  1292. Jul 02 17:59:36 <krispykrackers> I know of krispykrackers1
  1293. Jul 02 17:59:42 <EvilNight> F.M.L.
  1294. Jul 02 17:59:43 <krispykrackers> we pass each other once in a while
  1295. Jul 02 17:59:46 <krispykrackers> like two ships in the night
  1296. Jul 02 17:59:46 <gorillagnomes> ManWithoutModem: ah. I just checked back in and it looked like folks were :(
  1297. Jul 02 17:59:59 <ManWithoutModem> folks were what
  1298. Jul 02 18:00:15 <ManWithoutModem> mad at kk?
  1299. Jul 02 18:00:22 <EvilNight> new search is officially useless *compared to old search* - be careful, we're approaching quantum-level irony here and it could destroy the earth if it gets much worse
  1300. Jul 02 18:00:26 <Meneth> No one's mad at kk.
  1301. Jul 02 18:00:35 <Meneth> People are mad at the admins in the abstract.
  1302. Jul 02 18:00:37 <joyouscacophony> ^
  1303. Jul 02 18:00:39 <kwiztas> one person asks if we are mad and now everyone things we are lol
  1304. Jul 02 18:00:46 <joyouscacophony> Can we add NO ONE IS MAD AT KK to the banner pls?
  1305. Jul 02 18:00:47 <x_minus_one> I didn't think search could get worse. I really didn't.
  1306. Jul 02 18:00:57 <EvilNight> people don't even know who to be mad at, what good is rage if you canna focus it like lazers
  1307. Jul 02 18:01:00 <tizorres> I like the new search :/
  1308. Jul 02 18:01:11 <EvilNight> I like it's presentation... it's content is lacking
  1309. Jul 02 18:01:15 <gorillagnomes> They limited search?
  1310. Jul 02 18:01:18 <x_minus_one> "It's bad. It's REAL bad." -Kevin Malone
  1311. Jul 02 18:01:22 <Meneth> tizorres: The issue is it is now impossible to moderate via it.
  1312. Jul 02 18:01:29 <gorillagnomes> NO ONE IS MAD AT KK I JUST DON'T READ GOOD
  1313. Jul 02 18:01:29 <Meneth> Apparently, some mods used it for that purpose.
  1314. Jul 02 18:01:37 <tizorres> I like that it's making everyone so butthurt
  1315. Jul 02 18:01:48 <gorillagnomes> Can someone explain what's happening with search? I've been offline all day and need to catch up quick
  1316. Jul 02 18:01:52 <blueshiftlabs> tizorres: *any* change makes everyone butthurt
  1317. Jul 02 18:02:00 <tizorres> yes
  1318. Jul 02 18:02:09 <noeatnosleep> !op
  1319. Jul 02 18:02:09 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to noeatnosleep
  1320. Jul 02 18:02:26 <noeatnosleep> Yes blueshiftlabs, but changes that break our mod tools make us mad. =P
  1321. Jul 02 18:02:30 <EvilNight> I guess I will have to craft custom google searches for the listentothis editions, perhaps that'll work better
  1322. Jul 02 18:02:45 <EvilNight> they are already behind goo.gl links bc someone won't cough up more sidebar space... :P
  1323. Jul 02 18:02:48 <tizorres> don't worry modtool will come back to search /eventually/...
  1324. Jul 02 18:03:00 <EvilNight> I need a beer /sigh
  1325. Jul 02 18:03:15 <blueshiftlabs> Isn't there a flag you can add to restore the old search functionality?
  1326. Jul 02 18:03:22 <blueshiftlabs> at least temporarily?
  1327. Jul 02 18:03:33 --- noeatnosleep has changed the topic to: Welcome to #modtalk! Sub: modtalk.reddit.com | This channel is private, but do not consider it secure | Do not release logs. | Leak from modtalk, get removed from modtalk | RIP edify - http://redd.it/2xmhmk | NO ONE IS MAD AT KRIAPYKRACKERS
  1328. Jul 02 18:03:36 <x_minus_one> I wonder if Voat has better search.
  1329. Jul 02 18:03:43 <noeatnosleep> !deop
  1330. Jul 02 18:03:44 --- ButtServ removes channel operator status from noeatnosleep
  1331. Jul 02 18:03:47 <x_minus_one> KRIAPYKRACKERS?
  1332. Jul 02 18:03:55 <blueshiftlabs> speeling
  1333. Jul 02 18:04:14 <x_minus_one> cry-appy
  1334. Jul 02 18:04:15 <kwiztas> noeatnosleep, please fix
  1335. Jul 02 18:04:21 <noeatnosleep> !op
  1336. Jul 02 18:04:21 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to noeatnosleep
  1337. Jul 02 18:04:25 <x_minus_one> #AdminLivesMatter
  1338. Jul 02 18:04:30 <Meneth> Well, there's definitely no one mad at kriapykrackers.
  1339. Jul 02 18:04:30 <greenduch> what is gong on
  1340. Jul 02 18:04:37 --- noeatnosleep has changed the topic to: Welcome to #modtalk! Sub: modtalk.reddit.com | This channel is private, but do not consider it secure | Do not release logs. | Leak from modtalk, get removed from modtalk | RIP edify - http://redd.it/2xmhmk | NO ONE IS MAD AT KRISPYKRACKERS
  1341. Jul 02 18:04:38 <blueshiftlabs> drama
  1342. Jul 02 18:04:40 <noeatnosleep> !deop
  1343. Jul 02 18:04:40 --- ButtServ removes channel operator status from noeatnosleep
  1344. Jul 02 18:04:42 <noeatnosleep> Sorry
  1345. Jul 02 18:04:42 <blueshiftlabs> drama is going on
  1346. Jul 02 18:04:54 <gorillagnomes> I <3 krispykrackers. There. I said it.
  1347. Jul 02 18:04:57 <x_minus_one> why would we be mad at the only admin that talks to us?
  1348. Jul 02 18:05:02 <greenduch> no i mean what needs fixing
  1349. Jul 02 18:05:05 <gorillagnomes> lol ht ebanner ha ha
  1350. Jul 02 18:05:13 <noeatnosleep> You told me to
  1351. Jul 02 18:05:14 <tizorres> how krispy do you like your krackers?
  1352. Jul 02 18:05:26 <kwiztas> everyone thought we were made at krispykrackers
  1353. Jul 02 18:05:31 <coloicito> is kk part of the CMs?
  1354. Jul 02 18:05:35 <kwiztas> s/made/mad
  1355. Jul 02 18:05:35 <gonzobot> Correction, <kwiztas> everyone thought we were mad at krispykrackers
  1356. Jul 02 18:05:41 <gorillagnomes> it's great
  1357. Jul 02 18:05:48 <noeatnosleep> Let's avoid too many name pings on her.
  1358. Jul 02 18:05:54 <noeatnosleep> Don't want to chase her off.
  1359. Jul 02 18:06:00 <gorillagnomes> agreed
  1360. Jul 02 18:06:00 <joyouscacophony> coloicito: Community Mangers?
  1361. Jul 02 18:06:02 <kwiztas> well she might be like you and have anything like her namne ping her
  1362. Jul 02 18:06:04 <coloicito> yip
  1363. Jul 02 18:06:13 <kwiztas> so i guess pronouns it is
  1364. Jul 02 18:06:15 <joyouscacophony> I'm 99.2% sure, yes
  1365. Jul 02 18:06:29 <gorillagnomes> anywho - why does the search change break our tools? Which tools does it break?
  1366. Jul 02 18:06:45 <x_minus_one> careful with those pronouns, kwiztas
  1367. Jul 02 18:06:47 <JustPassingThrough> wow that was a lot of backlog
  1368. Jul 02 18:06:54 <blueshiftlabs> anyone who was using it for filter-by-flair, for one
  1369. Jul 02 18:06:54 <weeedbot> I know now I'll never have any flair again and I've come to terms with that.
  1370. Jul 02 18:07:04 <supergauntlet> lol
  1371. Jul 02 18:07:08 <x_minus_one> gorillagnomes: you can't remove posts from new search
  1372. Jul 02 18:07:20 <x_minus_one> which was helpful for removing reposts
  1373. Jul 02 18:07:43 <blueshiftlabs> how long do you figure before HB rolls out a new RES that fixes some of the more glaring omissions?
  1374. Jul 02 18:07:47 <noeatnosleep> Gorillagnomes it murders a lot of sidebar filter links.
  1375. Jul 02 18:07:49 <tizorres> honest question, how often do you mod from search?
  1376. Jul 02 18:07:55 <noeatnosleep> You can't remove posts from search as well.
  1377. Jul 02 18:08:18 <krispykrackers> sorry guys, trying to be more responsive here but shit’s hitting the figurative fan, you know how that is
  1378. Jul 02 18:08:31 <x_minus_one> nah, no big deal, they just spelled your name wrong
  1379. Jul 02 18:08:43 <supergauntlet> >tfw cylon won't mod me to his heart </3
  1380. Jul 02 18:08:47 <x_minus_one> so everyone pinged you
  1381. Jul 02 18:08:51 <werner__herzog> tizorres: I wanted to say never, then I thought about it, all the time. Best way to find duplicates (if they aren't from the same domain).
  1382. Jul 02 18:08:57 <werner__herzog> s/best way/only way
  1383. Jul 02 18:08:57 <gonzobot> Correction, <werner__herzog> tizorres: I wanted to say never, then I thought about it, all the time. only way to find duplicates (if they aren't from the same domain).
  1384. Jul 02 18:09:14 <tizorres> how many duplicates are there normally?
  1385. Jul 02 18:10:02 <GodOfAtheism> Lets host our AMA's in /r/ampart
  1386. Jul 02 18:10:22 <joyouscacophony> holy shit GodOfAtheism
  1387. Jul 02 18:10:25 <joyouscacophony> that's brilliant
  1388. Jul 02 18:10:27 <kerovon> science recently made a bit that logs all posts and reports duplicates based on DOI, but that wouldn't work well for really any other sub.
  1389. Jul 02 18:11:00 <blueshiftlabs> kerovon: how does the bot find the DOI from the link?
  1390. Jul 02 18:11:39 <gilgamesh> krispykracker's how's reddit HQ at the moment?
  1391. Jul 02 18:11:40 <kerovon> it checks both the link posted, and any links contained in it to see if there is a DOI present.
  1392. Jul 02 18:11:53 <gilgamesh> *krispykrackers
  1393. Jul 02 18:12:12 <Coffeh> man im getting so fat from all the redditpopcorn these days
  1394. Jul 02 18:12:17 <blueshiftlabs> kerovon: clever trick
  1395. Jul 02 18:12:22 <kerovon> if probably gets about 70-80% of our posts. and if they don't have a direct link to the research, then if is most likely breaking out submission rules.
  1396. Jul 02 18:12:31 <noeatnosleep> Krispykrackers do you need me to set your username in the filter so people don't ping you incessantly?
  1397. Jul 02 18:12:33 <noeatnosleep> !op
  1398. Jul 02 18:12:33 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to noeatnosleep
  1399. Jul 02 18:12:34 <kerovon> doomhammer was the mod who made it.
  1400. Jul 02 18:12:40 <krispykrackers> nope I’m good
  1401. Jul 02 18:12:41 <blueshiftlabs> guess DOIs are an obious enough format that you can scrape it easily enough
  1402. Jul 02 18:12:45 <noeatnosleep> K
  1403. Jul 02 18:12:48 <noeatnosleep> !deop
  1404. Jul 02 18:12:48 --- ButtServ removes channel operator status from noeatnosleep
  1405. Jul 02 18:12:50 <blueshiftlabs> s/obious/obvious/
  1406. Jul 02 18:12:50 <gonzobot> Correction, <blueshiftlabs> guess DOIs are an obvious enough format that you can scrape it easily enough
  1407. Jul 02 18:13:28 <blueshiftlabs> noeatnosleep: why do you toggle in and out of op like that?
  1408. Jul 02 18:13:29 <krispykrackers> this is HQ right now for me http://i.imgur.com/y9SrAhz.png
  1409. Jul 02 18:13:29 <kerovon> except for the journal Science. they routinely crew up their DOI formatting.
  1410. Jul 02 18:13:48 <noeatnosleep> Blueshiftlabs I only op if I am doing an op thing.
  1411. Jul 02 18:13:51 <PM> lol kk
  1412. Jul 02 18:14:09 <blueshiftlabs> makes sense - least-privilege sort of thing?
  1413. Jul 02 18:14:43 <noeatnosleep> Yeah. Why wear the badge when you don't need it?
  1414. Jul 02 18:14:50 <tizorres> can't you do op commands without being op?
  1415. Jul 02 18:15:02 <blueshiftlabs> sure, but only through
  1416. Jul 02 18:15:07 <noeatnosleep> No without using my admin privileges.
  1417. Jul 02 18:15:15 <noeatnosleep> Which I don't do unless I need to.
  1418. Jul 02 18:15:24 <tizorres> ah
  1419. Jul 02 18:15:27 <blueshiftlabs> Can't you do some things directly through anope?
  1420. Jul 02 18:15:34 <kwiztas> he is ircop
  1421. Jul 02 18:15:39 <kwiztas> he can do whatever he wants
  1422. Jul 02 18:15:44 <noeatnosleep> Sure, but the fantasy commands are a lot easier on mobile.
  1423. Jul 02 18:15:47 <noeatnosleep> I'm on my phone.
  1424. Jul 02 18:16:06 <tizorres> cool cool
  1425. Jul 02 18:16:11 <blueshiftlabs> ah, so *that's* what the docs meant by "fantasy commands"
  1426. Jul 02 18:16:25 <noeatnosleep> If I use a fantasy command here without being opped it uses admin override. And there is a log of those.
  1427. Jul 02 18:16:35 <noeatnosleep> So I don't use them unless I'm wearing my IRCop hat.
  1428. Jul 02 18:18:21 <noeatnosleep> I'm going afk. Phone is dying. So one ping me if I am needed.
  1429. Jul 02 18:18:43 <noeatnosleep> s/so one/someone
  1430. Jul 02 18:18:43 <gonzobot> Correction, <noeatnosleep> I'm going afk. Phone is dying. someone ping me if I am needed.
  1431. Jul 02 18:23:15 <Gaget> https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csqd0mf?context=3
  1432. Jul 02 18:25:21 <Tylzen> Holy fuck Reddit's heads are embarrasing.
  1433. Jul 02 18:25:32 <kwiztas> any conspiracy mods that can hook me up with an rfid chip in my arm?
  1434. Jul 02 18:26:00 <TheAppleFreak> you don't have the drivers for that chip
  1435. Jul 02 18:26:01 <JustPassingThrough> man youre all gonna look pretty embarrassing when it turns out she was fired because shes actually a serial killer or something
  1436. Jul 02 18:26:24 <kwiztas> rofl
  1437. Jul 02 18:26:30 <kwiztas> wouldn't she be arrested?
  1438. Jul 02 18:26:33 <Tylzen> JustPassingThrough, For me it is not if the firing was legit or not.. IT is about communication..
  1439. Jul 02 18:26:39 <kwiztas> ^
  1440. Jul 02 18:26:47 <Tylzen> JustPassingThrough, Having one of the big pulls towards reddit, just swim for itself.
  1441. Jul 02 18:26:58 <Tylzen> As I understand their mods were told by someone who had an AMA planned.
  1442. Jul 02 18:27:14 <Tylzen> Not from Reddit, like "Hey guys, we had to let Victoria go, we will try and help you out in this transitional period"
  1443. Jul 02 18:27:27 <kwiztas> yep
  1444. Jul 02 18:28:27 <JustPassingThrough> hun it was a joke
  1445. Jul 02 18:28:32 <JustPassingThrough> this is bullshit everyone knows it
  1446. Jul 02 18:28:42 <Tylzen> The firing might be legit.. I don't know..
  1447. Jul 02 18:28:54 <Tylzen> I just think how they handled, or rather didn't is what makes it embarrasing.
  1448. Jul 02 18:29:03 <gorillagnomes> krispykrackers: that comic is great. I'm sorry about your day. :(
  1449. Jul 02 18:29:05 <JustPassingThrough> she probably did something way less bad like multinational-scale fraud or jaywalking
  1450. Jul 02 18:29:34 <noeatnosleep> JustPassingThrough it isn't that she was fired
  1451. Jul 02 18:29:36 <gorillagnomes> NENS has pooooowwwwwweeeerrrrrrssssss
  1452. Jul 02 18:29:43 <noeatnosleep> It's that no one was hooked up to be a replacement
  1453. Jul 02 18:29:49 <Tylzen> Or told the IAMA crew.
  1454. Jul 02 18:29:52 <noeatnosleep> Until after hours of screaming.
  1455. Jul 02 18:29:54 <Tylzen> Or the people who had AMA scheduled.
  1456. Jul 02 18:30:18 <noeatnosleep> There should have been a successor lined up before anything happened.
  1457. Jul 02 18:30:38 <noeatnosleep> You don't cut the lifeline of huge subs without a backup.
  1458. Jul 02 18:30:45 <noeatnosleep> Lol gorillagnomes
  1459. Jul 02 18:30:50 <JustPassingThrough> the War of the Five Admins
  1460. Jul 02 18:31:22 <PM> meh companies don't let go of employees suddenly for no good reason.
  1461. Jul 02 18:31:45 <Tylzen> But you don't let go of an important employee without making sure that person's area doesn't collapse.
  1462. Jul 02 18:31:56 <JustPassingThrough> i agree, and i try very hard not to jump the anti-reddit circlejerk
  1463. Jul 02 18:31:57 <JustPassingThrough> but
  1464. Jul 02 18:32:04 <noeatnosleep> PM companies don't *not replace* someone in a massive community facing role before they set someone IP to handle their tasks.
  1465. Jul 02 18:32:06 <JustPassingThrough> if -any- company were to be the first to stupidly fire someone
  1466. Jul 02 18:32:07 <kwiztas> PM, could be monetary not an action of hers.
  1467. Jul 02 18:32:09 <JustPassingThrough> it might be them
  1468. Jul 02 18:32:26 <noeatnosleep> Tylzen: prezactly.
  1469. Jul 02 18:32:59 <Tylzen> And if it is a sudden firing, you still make sure the whole system doesn't collapse.
  1470. Jul 02 18:33:07 <TITRC> they do have something set up, according to kn0thing
  1471. Jul 02 18:33:18 <Tylzen> But having no backup plan, in case of sickness or anything for such a central person is just crazy.
  1472. Jul 02 18:33:18 <noeatnosleep> They do now.
  1473. Jul 02 18:33:24 <noeatnosleep> They didn't when they axed her.
  1474. Jul 02 18:33:31 <Tylzen> What is their backup now?
  1475. Jul 02 18:33:39 <kwiztas> knothing said there is a team
  1476. Jul 02 18:33:44 <noeatnosleep> Someone should have been tasked to do that before they axed her.
  1477. Jul 02 18:33:57 <Tylzen> Or just tell the IAMA people as the first thing.
  1478. Jul 02 18:34:11 <Tylzen> Especially when they know there are daily IAMAs
  1479. Jul 02 18:34:13 <TITRC> they'd tell her
  1480. Jul 02 18:34:46 <PM> if a system collapses because of one employee than that is a shit system that needs to collapse. also no one other than the admins and her know whats happen. for all we know it was serious enough that they didn't have time to make proper arrangements.
  1481. Jul 02 18:35:18 <Tylzen> You still should have a fail safe.. Like a fire plan.
  1482. Jul 02 18:35:34 <PM> lol fire plan?
  1483. Jul 02 18:35:44 <Tylzen> Yeah, you have evacuation plans at work places.
  1484. Jul 02 18:35:56 <Tylzen> So if something happens suddenly, everyone knows what to do.
  1485. Jul 02 18:36:12 <PM> yea no one does that
  1486. Jul 02 18:36:30 <Tylzen> Same with organisations and companies, if an important employee is unable to do their job, someone else can fill in temporarily, or the area can be "closed until fixed"
  1487. Jul 02 18:36:42 <Tylzen> Well the organisation I am on the board of does.
  1488. Jul 02 18:36:43 <PM> they do
  1489. Jul 02 18:36:50 <TITRC> emails to ama@reddit.com are going to be responded to
  1490. Jul 02 18:37:01 <PM> look at knothing comments.
  1491. Jul 02 18:37:17 <Tylzen> Yes, but it is about how they handled the situation.
  1492. Jul 02 18:37:20 <Tylzen> It was amateurish.
  1493. Jul 02 18:37:43 <Tylzen> Even if it is sudden, they had no plan on how to handle AMA
  1494. Jul 02 18:38:30 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to MillenniumFalc0n
  1495. Jul 02 18:38:40 --- MillenniumFalc0n sets invite on R:Makiavelzx
  1496. Jul 02 18:38:42 --- MillenniumFalc0n removes channel operator status from MillenniumFalc0n
  1497. Jul 02 18:39:16 <TITRC> look, you can't tell the IAmA mods about this without one of them leaking to chooter
  1498. Jul 02 18:39:34 <TITRC> as it was, within 45 minutes, kn0thing was in /r/iamamods telling them what's up
  1499. Jul 02 18:39:38 <TITRC> that's the chair of the company
  1500. Jul 02 18:39:51 <TITRC> you can't exactly recruit for her position while she's still IN IT
  1501. Jul 02 18:40:01 <TITRC> they were between a rock and a hard place here
  1502. Jul 02 18:40:12 <supergauntlet> https://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk/
  1503. Jul 02 18:40:13 <supergauntlet> hohoho
  1504. Jul 02 18:40:25 <supergauntlet> GodOfAtheism: : ^ )
  1505. Jul 02 18:40:28 <MillenniumFalc0n> wonder what happened that they felt the need to fire her without any notice
  1506. Jul 02 18:41:09 <Tylzen> TITRC, You don't have to tell the mods the reason, just that she had been let go.. And it wasn't the admins who told the mods.
  1507. Jul 02 18:41:14 <elfa82> MillenniumFalc0n, SRD should go private in solidarity!
  1508. Jul 02 18:41:32 <CosmicKeys> I'll take you private
  1509. Jul 02 18:41:44 <MillenniumFalc0n> then we could all move to subredditdramadrama!
  1510. Jul 02 18:41:53 <TITRC> yes, they did that within an hour of letting her go, Tylzen
  1511. Jul 02 18:41:56 <elfa82> Yes please at CK and you
  1512. Jul 02 18:42:03 <TITRC> kn0thing went to their sub and told them
  1513. Jul 02 18:42:11 <MillenniumFalc0n> well they did that after karmanaut shut down the sub
  1514. Jul 02 18:42:16 <supergauntlet> https://www.reddit.com/r/circlebroke/comments/3bwwb6/reddit_abruptly_fires_ama_liason_victoria_in_the/csqcnus?context=1
  1515. Jul 02 18:42:18 <supergauntlet> for what purpose
  1516. Jul 02 18:42:20 <MillenniumFalc0n> so who knows if he was going to do that if that hadn't happened
  1517. Jul 02 18:42:24 <supergauntlet> would you comment in CB as an admin
  1518. Jul 02 18:42:25 <supergauntlet> :^(
  1519. Jul 02 18:43:08 <Tylzen> TITRC, Still too late, they should had been there before some random agent.
  1520. Jul 02 18:44:16 <TITRC> so you're upset that 45 minutes passed between the firing and the chairman of the company personally informing them of the decision?
  1521. Jul 02 18:44:18 <TITRC> that seems unreasonable
  1522. Jul 02 18:44:35 <krispykrackers> movies is private
  1523. Jul 02 18:44:36 <krispykrackers> wonderful
  1524. Jul 02 18:44:55 <supergauntlet> yknow
  1525. Jul 02 18:45:05 <MillenniumFalc0n> krispykrackers: you had to see that coming with kleinbl00 near the top
  1526. Jul 02 18:45:09 <supergauntlet> i know going private is a thing to try and get the admins to respond
  1527. Jul 02 18:45:10 <supergauntlet> but
  1528. Jul 02 18:45:14 <MillenniumFalc0n> and girafa's post in modtalk
  1529. Jul 02 18:45:21 <supergauntlet> the only people this annoys or bothers is the community management team
  1530. Jul 02 18:45:28 <supergauntlet> ...who have nothing to do with Victoria's firing
  1531. Jul 02 18:45:35 <CosmicKeys> Seems like a lot of protest for a situation nobody seems to know much about
  1532. Jul 02 18:45:36 <TITRC> yeah I don't know the point they're trying to make here
  1533. Jul 02 18:45:38 <Tylzen> TITRC, I am not upset, I am just surprised that they were slower than some random agent, trying to know what happened to his clients scheduled AMA
  1534. Jul 02 18:45:43 <supergauntlet> like kn0thing literally does not give a shit about this
  1535. Jul 02 18:45:45 <supergauntlet> its reddit
  1536. Jul 02 18:45:49 <supergauntlet> it'll blow over in a week
  1537. Jul 02 18:45:53 <Nesquik> whats the list on defaults gone private now?
  1538. Jul 02 18:45:55 <CosmicKeys> What if she was upvoting herself in /r/circlejerk on multiple accounts, egregious
  1539. Jul 02 18:46:00 <supergauntlet> CosmicKeys: banned
  1540. Jul 02 18:46:02 <multi-mod> It's a jolly good day for a bit of a ruckus
  1541. Jul 02 18:46:16 <PM> lol movies..... I will seriously demod myself of any sub I mod that does that.
  1542. Jul 02 18:46:28 <x_minus_one> bye felicia
  1543. Jul 02 18:46:29 <joyouscacophony> Why?
  1544. Jul 02 18:46:54 <werner__herzog> "Three defaults go private after Admin gets fired for planing and executing a big heist."
  1545. Jul 02 18:47:05 <supergauntlet> werner__herzog: wat
  1546. Jul 02 18:47:05 <TITRC> I find all this completely silly. 45 minutes passed in a tiny bit of confusion, and this is the fallout.
  1547. Jul 02 18:47:08 <TITRC> ridiculous
  1548. Jul 02 18:47:12 <multi-mod> That would be awesome if true werner
  1549. Jul 02 18:47:19 <gorillagnomes> It's not just about Victoria. It's about search, it's about mod tools, it's about admin support with doxxing, ban evasion, etc...
  1550. Jul 02 18:47:38 <TITRC> then let's be grownups about it.
  1551. Jul 02 18:47:44 <x_minus_one> The firing that broke the unpaid volunteer's back, if you will.
  1552. Jul 02 18:48:00 <werner__herzog> "The heist ended in her jumping from one skyscraper to the next in one of the most expensive cars in the world."
  1553. Jul 02 18:48:01 <MillenniumFalc0n> so just continue to complain in announcement/changelog/beta threads and be completely ignored?
  1554. Jul 02 18:48:12 <MillenniumFalc0n> TITRC: I'm not saying this is the right way to go about things, but I"m certainly sympathetic
  1555. Jul 02 18:48:15 <CosmicKeys> Lol werner__herzog
  1556. Jul 02 18:48:28 <TITRC> no one is being ignored here
  1557. Jul 02 18:48:34 <MillenniumFalc0n> wat
  1558. Jul 02 18:48:34 <multi-mod> I can't even check if a user is submitting the same youtube channel through search any more
  1559. Jul 02 18:48:37 <Tylzen> TITRC, At least he admits that he did it too slowly https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riama_set_to_private_over_mod_firing/csqe9a6?context=3
  1560. Jul 02 18:48:53 <TITRC> and considering this the straw that broke the redditor's back? like, c'mon.
  1561. Jul 02 18:49:00 <werner__herzog> guys, I don't wanna go to sleep, but I have to
  1562. Jul 02 18:49:09 <werner__herzog> have fun you crazy Americans
  1563. Jul 02 18:49:17 <werner__herzog> with your firings and your secrets
  1564. Jul 02 18:49:28 <multi-mod> https://www.reddit.com/r/beta/comments/37e40b/feedback_youtube_media_channel_info_no_longer/
  1565. Jul 02 18:49:28 <gonzobot> (multi-mod) [Feedback] youtube media channel info no longer shown in search,... : beta - 4 comments, 71 points - multi-mod, 1m ago
  1566. Jul 02 18:49:49 <multi-mod> now I need to go through every submission by hand like I'm some reddit plebe
  1567. Jul 02 18:50:10 <supergauntlet> what i'm really curious about is that this seemed to be a planned move? if they have a team ready and are planning something in the future for AMAs
  1568. Jul 02 18:50:18 <supergauntlet> why remove victoria so suddenly and not let anyone know
  1569. Jul 02 18:50:24 <multi-mod> "team"
  1570. Jul 02 18:50:29 <supergauntlet> ah right
  1571. Jul 02 18:50:35 <CosmicKeys> Was she "fired"?
  1572. Jul 02 18:50:36 <supergauntlet> aka
  1573. Jul 02 18:50:57 <PM> the search is horrible, and I would agree to a protest about that but the ama admin being fired? nah I worked in too many places, seem to many "good workers" fired to get behind that.
  1574. Jul 02 18:51:13 <CosmicKeys> Letting someone go is a touchy move for any company, I can see that they'd be focused on that side of it and not keeping IAMA running
  1575. Jul 02 18:51:20 <Tylzen> https://twitter.com/edfrenkel/status/616662322623459330
  1576. Jul 02 18:51:20 <gonzobot> (Tylzen) @edfrenkel (Edward Frenkel): Details on the shutting down of @reddit_AMA in the middle of my AMA: https://t.co/bO3os0ZFmp All this sounds really bad and unprofessional. (5 hours and 12 minutes ago)
  1577. Jul 02 18:51:50 <TITRC> supergauntlet: this was not sudden
  1578. Jul 02 18:51:56 <TITRC> this shit doesn't just pop up
  1579. Jul 02 18:52:03 <TITRC> they just couldn't tell us, for obvious reasons
  1580. Jul 02 18:52:10 <supergauntlet> i mean if it wasn't do you think she got a 2 weeks notice
  1581. Jul 02 18:52:21 <multi-mod> with all these subs going private it's just going to be pics, funny, and aww on my front page
  1582. Jul 02 18:52:23 <supergauntlet> i dont quite get why they didn't tell anyone
  1583. Jul 02 18:52:31 <Tylzen> I would call it sudden, when AMAs are shut down midsentence.
  1584. Jul 02 18:52:34 <joyouscacophony> It was a bullshit move by management TITRC
  1585. Jul 02 18:52:34 <blueshiftlabs> TITRC: consider that, even if this was sudden, they may have had a bockup plan in place
  1586. Jul 02 18:52:54 <multi-mod> was their backup plan to have no backup plan?
  1587. Jul 02 18:52:56 <krispykrackers> it’s interesting that you use the word “remove”. is this being seen as a super-helpful-power-mod being removed from a subreddit rather than a reddit employee bein glet go?
  1588. Jul 02 18:52:58 <TITRC> supergauntlet: because you don't announce upcoming firings to a giant website?
  1589. Jul 02 18:52:59 <Tylzen> multi-mod, They are going to bring back adviceanimsl, to fill in for AMA :P
  1590. Jul 02 18:53:01 <blueshiftlabs> for if Victoria got sick, or hit by a bus, or something like that
  1591. Jul 02 18:53:10 <supergauntlet> TITRC: they didn't have to?
  1592. Jul 02 18:53:27 <supergauntlet> they could have just told the mods 'hey theres some stuff going on with reddit-handled AMAs, just fyi'
  1593. Jul 02 18:53:30 <multi-mod> yishan explained why they fired that one guy
  1594. Jul 02 18:53:40 <supergauntlet> multi-mod: which was a hilariously bad idea btw
  1595. Jul 02 18:53:42 <x_minus_one> and that worked out well
  1596. Jul 02 18:53:46 <PM> KK I would say people are thinking the former.
  1597. Jul 02 18:53:47 <TITRC> multi-mod: yeah that was kind of a special case, and not a good idea
  1598. Jul 02 18:53:53 <TITRC> supergauntlet: when?
  1599. Jul 02 18:54:04 <TITRC> before? how would that help?
  1600. Jul 02 18:54:08 <multi-mod> just yishan being yishan
  1601. Jul 02 18:54:08 <TITRC> after? they did that, within an hour
  1602. Jul 02 18:54:21 <Tylzen> TITRC, Kn0ting even admits he did it too slowly.
  1603. Jul 02 18:54:24 <supergauntlet> even a few hours notice would have probably avoided this
  1604. Jul 02 18:54:37 <Tylzen> They had no backup in such a case, they had AMAs planned.
  1605. Jul 02 18:54:47 <TITRC> sure, maybe the first thing he does is go straight to the computer and notify /r/iamamods
  1606. Jul 02 18:54:51 <Tylzen> As blueshiftlabs also points out, what if Victoria had been sick or in an accident.
  1607. Jul 02 18:55:07 <Tylzen> Yes.
  1608. Jul 02 18:55:15 <Tylzen> Considering how big IAMA is for the site.
  1609. Jul 02 18:55:23 <TITRC> and "a few hours notice"? how classless would it be to tell the mods before they told her? and how do you keep them from leaking it to her?
  1610. Jul 02 18:55:28 <CosmicKeys> "Petition to call this drama "victoria's secret"" - lol
  1611. Jul 02 18:55:28 <TITRC> leaking it to her would've been the worst thing
  1612. Jul 02 18:55:33 <multi-mod> it completely knocks out one of their main mobile apps
  1613. Jul 02 18:55:35 <Tylzen> TITRC, You can do both.
  1614. Jul 02 18:55:41 <kwiztas> already is CosmicKeys
  1615. Jul 02 18:55:52 <Tylzen> I am pretty sure they had a PC or smartphone within reach, when they let Victoria go.
  1616. Jul 02 18:55:58 <CosmicKeys> Neato ( ͡° ͜ ͡° )
  1617. Jul 02 18:56:03 <multi-mod> they did it by carrier pigeon
  1618. Jul 02 18:56:06 <TITRC> yes, it took 45 minutes. I'm sure Alexis is sorry.
  1619. Jul 02 18:56:09 <Tylzen> Oh yeah, their IAMA app
  1620. Jul 02 18:56:09 <supergauntlet> i dunno what's done is done, I just don't get why the hell iama is private still
  1621. Jul 02 18:56:17 <TITRC> that the iama mods had to wait 45 minutes
  1622. Jul 02 18:56:25 <Tylzen> TITRC, Yes, he admits he was too slow.
  1623. Jul 02 18:56:35 <TITRC> OK, so all this over 45 minutes of radio silence
  1624. Jul 02 18:56:38 <TITRC> silly
  1625. Jul 02 18:56:40 <Tylzen> supergauntlet, Because they have none to handle the IAMAs.
  1626. Jul 02 18:56:51 <supergauntlet> didn't kn0thing say somewhere that they do now
  1627. Jul 02 18:56:54 <kwiztas> they found out thru a modmail from a scheduled iama not admins.
  1628. Jul 02 18:56:59 <Tylzen> supergauntlet, To handle the emails.
  1629. Jul 02 18:57:05 <Tylzen> supergauntlet, But none to fill in for Victoria.
  1630. Jul 02 18:57:11 <supergauntlet> welp
  1631. Jul 02 18:57:19 <CosmicKeys> supergauntlet: As a moderator I reserve the absolute authority to hold my subscribers content hostage at any time, for any whim, as a god under only god
  1632. Jul 02 18:57:24 <supergauntlet> xd
  1633. Jul 02 18:57:25 <TITRC> how exactly would you pull that off? be recuiting FOR her job WHILE she's in it, Tylzen?
  1634. Jul 02 18:57:37 <Tylzen> TITRC, HAVE SOMEONE ELSE FILL IN.
  1635. Jul 02 18:57:39 <Tylzen> :)
  1636. Jul 02 18:57:55 <Tylzen> It might not be as good, but it is better than none.
  1637. Jul 02 18:58:09 <TITRC> ummm… who? just pull another reddit employee off their normal job? and say "your job is now to deal with the AMA mods"?
  1638. Jul 02 18:58:16 <Tylzen> Yeah
  1639. Jul 02 18:58:23 <blueshiftlabs> TITRC: it's called having a substitute
  1640. Jul 02 18:58:29 <Tylzen> I presume many of them are project orientated.
  1641. Jul 02 18:58:46 <Tylzen> Just like if someone are in an accident or become suddenly ill
  1642. Jul 02 18:58:51 <kerovon> In /r/science, it was because even after the firing, we were not getting any response with substance after several hours of trying to get them. We are currently scrambling to rescue a massive AMA we were planning.
  1643. Jul 02 18:58:53 <blueshiftlabs> anything mission-critical like this
  1644. Jul 02 18:59:01 <blueshiftlabs> you *always* have at least two people on it
  1645. Jul 02 18:59:07 <coloicito> What was /r/music's reasoning?
  1646. Jul 02 18:59:17 <blueshiftlabs> it's called "bus factor"
  1647. Jul 02 18:59:29 <Nesquik> /r/music is private too?
  1648. Jul 02 18:59:36 <coloicito> yesp
  1649. Jul 02 18:59:37 <Tylzen> r/movies too last I checked.
  1650. Jul 02 18:59:49 <blueshiftlabs> not for me
  1651. Jul 02 18:59:52 <TITRC> yeah, I'm sorry, I think this is still wildly overblown. as it is, you are still going to get your emails to ama@ answered. that you won't have someone to answer text messages is something that's livable until they find a replacement.
  1652. Jul 02 18:59:56 <Nesquik> music seems up still
  1653. Jul 02 19:00:11 <XenoBen> maybe victoria will go to voat /s
  1654. Jul 02 19:00:12 <coloicito> wops, sorry
  1655. Jul 02 19:00:17 <coloicito> I meant /r/movies, my bad
  1656. Jul 02 19:00:27 <Tylzen> TITRC, Yes, but not the IAMAS handled..
  1657. Jul 02 19:00:30 <blueshiftlabs> that brings it up to, what, 3 defaults total?
  1658. Jul 02 19:00:38 <greenduch> 4 ?
  1659. Jul 02 19:00:46 <coloicito> 3 defaults + circlejerk
  1660. Jul 02 19:01:21 <Tylzen> TITRC, The IAMA mods have already made it clear they need a person like Victoria to fill that role.
  1661. Jul 02 19:01:23 <kwiztas> if we get lol in on this we win
  1662. Jul 02 19:01:24 <gorillagnomes> xenoben lol
  1663. Jul 02 19:01:24 <x_minus_one> You mean circlejerk isn't a default???
  1664. Jul 02 19:01:33 <Tylzen> TITRC, Answering emails is not that.
  1665. Jul 02 19:01:47 <TITRC> gosh, "need". see, that's the frustrating part.
  1666. Jul 02 19:01:53 <Nesquik> cj becoming a default would be ironic
  1667. Jul 02 19:01:58 <kwiztas> XenoBen, predict the outcome of this please
  1668. Jul 02 19:01:59 <multi-mod> Are the emails to AMA going to actually be answered?
  1669. Jul 02 19:02:02 <kwiztas> he is really on point
  1670. Jul 02 19:02:38 <Tylzen> TITRC, Why is that frustrating? Before her, the AMA quality was horrible, and not consisent.
  1671. Jul 02 19:02:43 <Tylzen> TITRC, Or would you rather discuss Rampant?
  1672. Jul 02 19:03:00 <Tylzen> Has anyone actually watched that movie?
  1673. Jul 02 19:03:09 <TITRC> I'm not saying that she didn't do great work, I'm not saying that it was better before her, none of this
  1674. Jul 02 19:03:31 <TITRC> but all this freakout over not being informed about this, and having to work around it for a few weeks?
  1675. Jul 02 19:03:32 <Tylzen> TITRC, But you don't think it was a critical position, considering the role of IAMA on Reddit.
  1676. Jul 02 19:04:06 <multi-mod> Deimorz, KK, and chooter were essentially the front facing reddit employees
  1677. Jul 02 19:04:08 <Tylzen> TITRC, The "freakout" for me, is that it showed that Reddit had no backup plan, or can handle a sudden firing of an employee
  1678. Jul 02 19:04:28 <TITRC> here is the backup plan: email ama@reddit.com until they find a replacement.
  1679. Jul 02 19:04:34 <TITRC> that has been made clear
  1680. Jul 02 19:04:44 <Tylzen> TITRC, That is not a backup plan, that is panic.
  1681. Jul 02 19:04:50 <TITRC> no, it's not
  1682. Jul 02 19:04:52 <TITRC> what?
  1683. Jul 02 19:05:25 <Tylzen> TITRC, Backup plan is having someone that can fill in, so the daily amas are not interrupted (someone who was a dedicated backup in case something happened)
  1684. Jul 02 19:05:45 <XenoBen> kwiztas: some story from admins that probably never happened
  1685. Jul 02 19:05:50 <multi-mod> they could have even redirected KK to do it
  1686. Jul 02 19:05:50 <XenoBen> and promises to move ob
  1687. Jul 02 19:05:52 <kerovon> If ama@reddit.com was responsive, maybe. If they don't respond for over 3 hours to specific questions about the final stages of finalizing a major ama that we were trying to get locked in today, that is a problem. Going private got /r/science to start getting mroe responses.
  1688. Jul 02 19:05:55 <Tylzen> TITRC, A backup plan is something you have ready to deploy within minutes, not hours.
  1689. Jul 02 19:06:01 <krispykrackers> 3 hours isn’t very long
  1690. Jul 02 19:06:11 <multi-mod> 3 hours is the life of an AMA
  1691. Jul 02 19:06:20 <TITRC> you expect someone else on the (very small) reddit team to abandon their daily job role and concentrate solely on AMAs for an indeterminate amount of time?
  1692. Jul 02 19:06:22 <Tylzen> 3 hours is long when the person is tweeting aobut it :D
  1693. Jul 02 19:06:26 <TITRC> that is not reasonable
  1694. Jul 02 19:06:26 <Tylzen> https://twitter.com/edfrenkel/status/616662322623459330
  1695. Jul 02 19:06:26 <gonzobot> (Tylzen) @edfrenkel (Edward Frenkel): Details on the shutting down of @reddit_AMA in the middle of my AMA: https://t.co/bO3os0ZFmp All this sounds really bad and unprofessional. (5 hours and 27 minutes ago)
  1696. Jul 02 19:06:26 <krispykrackers> ahh I see
  1697. Jul 02 19:06:29 <kwiztas> XenoBen, predicated spacex crs-7 i trust in him
  1698. Jul 02 19:06:33 <allthefoxes> rip /r/movies
  1699. Jul 02 19:06:37 <JustPassingThrough> F
  1700. Jul 02 19:06:57 <Tylzen> TITRC, Yes, for a day or two, since IAMAS is a massive part of the publicity of Reddit.
  1701. Jul 02 19:07:09 <multi-mod> KK, I can tell you are sad from all the talking you are doing :(
  1702. Jul 02 19:07:11 <Tylzen> TITRC, That is how most organisations and companies work.
  1703. Jul 02 19:07:18 <Tylzen> They don't just let a whole section fall.
  1704. Jul 02 19:07:19 <kerovon> That is on top of the time when we weren't getting any responses despite modmailing reddit.com, emailing reddit, asking Pao, asking kn0thing
  1705. Jul 02 19:07:24 <Tylzen> And tell people to email them.
  1706. Jul 02 19:07:31 <kerovon> Then emailing the email address and getting no response
  1707. Jul 02 19:07:33 <TITRC> you're really assigning a LOT of importance to this that I think is unwarranted
  1708. Jul 02 19:07:36 <allthefoxes> TITRC, well, there was someone who was doing that, but they got fired
  1709. Jul 02 19:07:38 <TITRC> as it is, it's going to be more than two days
  1710. Jul 02 19:07:39 <XenoBen> has victoria posted at all?
  1711. Jul 02 19:07:41 <allthefoxes> is the point
  1712. Jul 02 19:07:44 <allthefoxes> XenoBen, yeah in /r/pics
  1713. Jul 02 19:07:51 <XenoBen> what she say?
  1714. Jul 02 19:07:51 <kerovon> the only response we got was"email us", until we shut down.
  1715. Jul 02 19:07:54 <allthefoxes> Just stuff
  1716. Jul 02 19:07:55 <Tylzen> TITRC, It is important enough to have the president of the USA being on there.
  1717. Jul 02 19:07:55 <multi-mod> victoria has been chatting, seems fine with the whole thing
  1718. Jul 02 19:08:04 <Tylzen> IAMA is a big part of reddit, and most know about it.
  1719. Jul 02 19:08:04 <TITRC> yeah, the president was also on marc maron last week
  1720. Jul 02 19:08:11 <XenoBen> I feel we are missing a big part of the story
  1721. Jul 02 19:08:19 <TITRC> you're right XenoBen
  1722. Jul 02 19:08:23 <TITRC> which is why I find this all silly
  1723. Jul 02 19:08:23 <coloicito> Yes, the reasons behind this
  1724. Jul 02 19:08:37 <Tylzen> The reason behind it is not what I care about..
  1725. Jul 02 19:08:41 <Tylzen> I care about how they handled it.
  1726. Jul 02 19:08:50 <MillenniumFalc0n> allthefoxes: come on man, you can do *so* much better than Jack at that price point
  1727. Jul 02 19:08:52 <XenoBen> It all seems very sudden. Like spare of the moment.
  1728. Jul 02 19:08:54 <Tylzen> But TITRC doesn't consider IAMA one of the biggest parts of Reddit.
  1729. Jul 02 19:09:02 <TITRC> of course that's exactly waht I said
  1730. Jul 02 19:09:03 <MillenniumFalc0n> and if you're broke you can do fine for cheaper
  1731. Jul 02 19:09:04 <TITRC> oh wait
  1732. Jul 02 19:09:06 <TITRC> it's totally not
  1733. Jul 02 19:09:07 <Tylzen> XenoBen, Still you would have a "bus-factor" plan.
  1734. Jul 02 19:09:10 <allthefoxes> TITRC, Victoria is gone, and people will have to deal with it its the lack of caring and communication that the staff have for us
  1735. Jul 02 19:09:11 <MillenniumFalc0n> for instance, I'm drinking a $28 dollar handle of four roses yellow label
  1736. Jul 02 19:09:30 <krispykrackers> that’s so unfair allthefoxes
  1737. Jul 02 19:09:58 <allthefoxes> I'm sorry. but this is not the first terrible mess reddit has left.
  1738. Jul 02 19:09:58 <XenoBen> Tylzen: Doesnt look that good atm.
  1739. Jul 02 19:09:59 <joyouscacophony> allthefoxes - this isn't staff. This is management
  1740. Jul 02 19:10:07 <allthefoxes> Yes, you are right joyouscacophony
  1741. Jul 02 19:10:08 <allthefoxes> sorry
  1742. Jul 02 19:10:13 <krispykrackers> “reddit” and “the admins” aren’t one entity
  1743. Jul 02 19:10:17 <krispykrackers> just like “redditors” aren’t one person
  1744. Jul 02 19:10:19 <Wodashit> This is one of the greatest time for popcorn
  1745. Jul 02 19:10:22 <Tylzen> The admins doesn't hire and fire people.
  1746. Jul 02 19:10:25 <joyouscacophony> Lies krispykrackers
  1747. Jul 02 19:10:31 <allthefoxes> We all know you are the borg
  1748. Jul 02 19:10:32 <allthefoxes> dont lie
  1749. Jul 02 19:10:33 <joyouscacophony> There's only karmanaut
  1750. Jul 02 19:10:33 <Tylzen> But they didn't inform IAMA either.
  1751. Jul 02 19:10:34 <Tylzen> In time.
  1752. Jul 02 19:11:11 <krispykrackers> how unprofessional would it be to tell a mod team that an employee was being let go, before letting that employee know? I don’t understand why anyone thinks that’s something we should have actually done?
  1753. Jul 02 19:11:11 <Wodashit> Do we know the reasons why btw?
  1754. Jul 02 19:11:25 <allthefoxes> How about actually having a plan then
  1755. Jul 02 19:11:28 <allthefoxes> when they do go
  1756. Jul 02 19:11:46 <Wodashit> krispykrackers: I guess it's letting everyone know before hand.
  1757. Jul 02 19:11:46 <allthefoxes> rather than the iama mods having some random person tell them "Hey thyre gone" and let them figure it out for a few hours
  1758. Jul 02 19:11:50 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to MillenniumFalc0n
  1759. Jul 02 19:12:01 --- MillenniumFalc0n sets invite on R:ivashkin
  1760. Jul 02 19:12:07 <multi-mod> does going private automatically disable your default status once you make it public again?
  1761. Jul 02 19:12:10 <krispykrackers> tell… everyone before… tellign the person? I don’t understand?
  1762. Jul 02 19:12:11 <allthefoxes> No
  1763. Jul 02 19:12:14 --- MillenniumFalc0n removes channel operator status from MillenniumFalc0n
  1764. Jul 02 19:12:23 <rya|AwayFightingMummies> only for iama team krispykrackers
  1765. Jul 02 19:12:23 <x_minus_one> so many new people today
  1766. Jul 02 19:12:28 <Tylzen> krispykrackers, I cannot see how they couldn't have told them right after the point.
  1767. Jul 02 19:12:39 <Tylzen> As if Reddit doesn't have access to phones or PCs
  1768. Jul 02 19:12:42 <Ivashkin> hello /r/europe mod here
  1769. Jul 02 19:12:46 <allthefoxes> Hi Ivashkin
  1770. Jul 02 19:12:48 <Makiavelzx> krispykrackers : By that point, Victoria had to know didn't she? Otherwise how would that AMA participant have known about it?
  1771. Jul 02 19:12:52 <Tylzen> IAMA mods were told about it via some random agent in modmail.
  1772. Jul 02 19:12:52 <greenduch> or tried to have *something* in place that wasnt just hashtag yolo
  1773. Jul 02 19:12:52 <allthefoxes> Complemntary popcorn to the right
  1774. Jul 02 19:12:56 <Wodashit> krispykrackers: tell everyone including the person and handling that well especially if it's for public relations
  1775. Jul 02 19:12:56 <Flashynuff> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2f-MZ2HRHQ
  1776. Jul 02 19:12:57 <gonzobot> (Flashynuff) Cool Hand Luke - Failure to Communicate - length 10s - 301 likes, 8 dislikes (97.4%) - 186,435 views - technomage116 on 2010.04.15
  1777. Jul 02 19:12:58 <JustPassingThrough> krispy we can compromise here, just give me all the internal in-the-know on reddit hq and ill filter the proper stuff for the rest of these guys. 1 sec lemme get my notebook
  1778. Jul 02 19:13:08 <greenduch> welcome, Ivashkin
  1779. Jul 02 19:13:11 <TehAlpacalypse> I just found out not 20 minutes ago, but I think this was really rushed and really fucked Iama
  1780. Jul 02 19:13:15 <TehAlpacalypse> I've gotta go
  1781. Jul 02 19:13:15 <x_minus_one> Like I'm actually making popcorn tho
  1782. Jul 02 19:13:18 <rya|AwayFightingMummies> like dey shud have atleast told about using ama@reddit.com atleast krispykrackers.. than just jumping it on them
  1783. Jul 02 19:13:25 * Ivashkin quietly takes a seat in the corner
  1784. Jul 02 19:13:39 <Tylzen> Ivashkin, Hi.
  1785. Jul 02 19:13:41 <joyouscacophony> hey Ivashkin
  1786. Jul 02 19:13:45 <Wodashit> x_minus_one: well, salt or sugar?
  1787. Jul 02 19:13:48 <allthefoxes> In general, I'm more salty about the general tone of reddit lately anyways, this is just another thing to put in the books.
  1788. Jul 02 19:13:51 <Tylzen> Ivashkin, I never been to Europe.. I heard it is a scary place.
  1789. Jul 02 19:13:53 <CosmicKeys> krispy is right, there's no way you would tell anyone below an employee's level being let go before they do
  1790. Jul 02 19:14:01 <allthefoxes> CosmicKeys, no one needed to know before
  1791. Jul 02 19:14:08 <allthefoxes> they should have had a plan though when it did happen
  1792. Jul 02 19:14:09 <Wodashit> Tylzen: come on...
  1793. Jul 02 19:14:12 <Tylzen> You don't have to tell them she is being fired..
  1794. Jul 02 19:14:14 <coloicito> I'm out of touch with US's laws. Can an employer simply tell someone "you're fired" and have him/her leave on the spot, without giving them a time notice or something?
  1795. Jul 02 19:14:21 <multi-mod> I wonder what she did that was so bad she didn't get notice
  1796. Jul 02 19:14:21 <allthefoxes> coloicito, yes
  1797. Jul 02 19:14:22 <x_minus_one> yes
  1798. Jul 02 19:14:25 <Tylzen> They could have been told "Hey something is up, we need to put IAMAS on hold"
  1799. Jul 02 19:14:25 <PM> krispykrackers, reddit is full users young enough not have have work at a company. only reason I can see for people saying they should have known as soon as the employee.
  1800. Jul 02 19:14:26 <x_minus_one> 'murica sucks
  1801. Jul 02 19:14:30 <rya|AwayFightingMummies> no one was asking reddit to do an announcement kk..
  1802. Jul 02 19:14:30 <allthefoxes> At-will I think
  1803. Jul 02 19:14:37 <coloicito> hm
  1804. Jul 02 19:14:38 <CosmicKeys> There's just a ton of assumptions I suppose, nobody even knows why she was let go so maybe it was an emergency
  1805. Jul 02 19:14:41 <rya|AwayFightingMummies> just a heads up to iama team
  1806. Jul 02 19:14:46 <Flashynuff> hey krispykrackers, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate that you're taking the time to talk to us here. I think the biggest problem a lot of people have is a lack of mod-admin communication, and you being here makes things considerably better. So thank you!
  1807. Jul 02 19:14:48 <CosmicKeys> Or, at least that's one radical example
  1808. Jul 02 19:14:50 <snarkypants> im here for the iama gossip
  1809. Jul 02 19:14:52 <coloicito> Wait, in this case which laws would apply? California's or New York's?
  1810. Jul 02 19:14:55 <allthefoxes> I do too, I love you kk <3
  1811. Jul 02 19:15:04 <Tylzen> How could a random agent tell the mods before the admins.
  1812. Jul 02 19:15:06 <multi-mod> KK you tha woman
  1813. Jul 02 19:15:08 <XenoBen> most of us are snarkypants
  1814. Jul 02 19:15:15 <Tylzen> snarkypants, <3
  1815. Jul 02 19:15:17 <snarkypants> fill me in
  1816. Jul 02 19:15:29 <snarkypants> i just read the title and am too lazy to click further
  1817. Jul 02 19:15:31 <Wodashit> PM: The reason is, this is hurting your image more than anything, especially on a community driven website
  1818. Jul 02 19:15:37 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Random agent mailed the mods of IAMA about what was up, they find out that Victoria has been fired.
  1819. Jul 02 19:15:41 <multi-mod> snarkypants, shit went down, there was a trident, and now there is a war between man and machine
  1820. Jul 02 19:15:47 <allthefoxes> People keep saying its about them knowing before victoria but thats not really whats up (its about ethics in game journalism), but having a plan for when Victoria is gone.
  1821. Jul 02 19:15:49 <Tylzen> snarkypants, IAMA goes private, Kn0t comes in and orientates.
  1822. Jul 02 19:15:51 <EvilNight> fuck me now /r/movies too
  1823. Jul 02 19:15:52 <snarkypants> fired? or just no longer working for the company
  1824. Jul 02 19:15:52 <CosmicKeys> All this IAMA drama is actually getting in the way of my normal irc shitposting, thank you very much
  1825. Jul 02 19:15:54 * MillenniumFalc0n waves at snarkypants
  1826. Jul 02 19:15:57 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Movies, and Science are down too
  1827. Jul 02 19:16:01 <allthefoxes> snarkypants, "laid off"
  1828. Jul 02 19:16:02 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Yup.
  1829. Jul 02 19:16:02 <EvilNight> this is starting to snowball people - are you sure you want to go this way
  1830. Jul 02 19:16:13 <snarkypants> "terminated" or "laid off"
  1831. Jul 02 19:16:13 <EvilNight> point of no return, this is it
  1832. Jul 02 19:16:14 <Wodashit> CosmicKeys: You are welcome =)
  1833. Jul 02 19:16:18 <allthefoxes> fine
  1834. Jul 02 19:16:22 <allthefoxes> let me shitpost something
  1835. Jul 02 19:16:23 <allthefoxes> hmm
  1836. Jul 02 19:16:26 <kerovon> I don't mind that they didn't warn us first honestly. I mind that they didn't appear to have any of their upper people ready to handle the issues until it blew up. /r/science is still waiting on getting answers to the questions we asked.
  1837. Jul 02 19:16:28 <snarkypants> because employment termination does not mean fired
  1838. Jul 02 19:16:29 <allthefoxes> Oh, I know
  1839. Jul 02 19:16:32 <allthefoxes> kebab++
  1840. Jul 02 19:16:35 <XenoBen> snarkypants: unexpectedly let go
  1841. Jul 02 19:16:35 <snarkypants> it just means the person is no longer working there
  1842. Jul 02 19:16:46 <snarkypants> what if she got an awesome job somewhere
  1843. Jul 02 19:16:52 <snarkypants> maybe its a promotion
  1844. Jul 02 19:16:58 <allthefoxes> snarkypants, nope, shes gone
  1845. Jul 02 19:17:01 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Reddit still had no backup.
  1846. Jul 02 19:17:01 <allthefoxes> not working for reddit
  1847. Jul 02 19:17:15 <werner__herzog> chooter for new ceo confirmed
  1848. Jul 02 19:17:15 <Wodashit> allthefoxes: K++15?
  1849. Jul 02 19:17:16 <snarkypants> well right, maybe she got a job managing social media for somebody else
  1850. Jul 02 19:17:22 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Like IAMA shut down, and the admins are like just mail ama@reddit.com
  1851. Jul 02 19:17:29 <snarkypants> like a presidential candidate or something
  1852. Jul 02 19:17:29 <Makiavelzx> seeing how she appears to be going to visit her husband's family, I doubt it
  1853. Jul 02 19:17:32 <allthefoxes> 3 hours after the fact Tylzen
  1854. Jul 02 19:17:36 <allthefoxes> not right when it happened
  1855. Jul 02 19:17:42 <Tylzen> allthefoxes, That is fast enough for TITRC :P
  1856. Jul 02 19:17:44 <allthefoxes> once it became a shit storm though, they started to do something
  1857. Jul 02 19:17:52 <x_minus_one> considering that she's been posting, though, you'd think she'd at least be like "yo, it's cool, y'all"
  1858. Jul 02 19:17:59 <snarkypants> or... depop
  1859. Jul 02 19:17:59 <TITRC> 45 minutes. it took 45 minutes.
  1860. Jul 02 19:17:59 <PM> she is fired. people are only let go this way for "a reason". what that reason is, fuck if I know.
  1861. Jul 02 19:18:00 <Tylzen> Because allthefoxes you cannot have people who do their daily job, do ANYTHING else :D
  1862. Jul 02 19:18:02 <allthefoxes> as is usual for reddit : ^ ) Only ackowldge it when its blown up
  1863. Jul 02 19:18:05 <snarkypants> isn't depop hiring right now?/
  1864. Jul 02 19:18:05 <XenoBen> guys i think we are missing someone. WHAT ABOUT THE BERNIE SANDERS AMAS??!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
  1865. Jul 02 19:18:20 <Tylzen> XenoBen, He can do it in Casualiama.
  1866. Jul 02 19:18:22 <Tylzen> :D
  1867. Jul 02 19:18:30 <Tylzen> Together with the 10 other Bernie Sanders.
  1868. Jul 02 19:18:50 <x_minus_one> lol
  1869. Jul 02 19:19:19 <Wodashit> Tylzen: well the wife would be happy then
  1870. Jul 02 19:19:30 <multi-mod> was there really a bernie AMA scheduled?
  1871. Jul 02 19:19:31 <Tylzen> Wodashit, Which one of them? There are 11 of them
  1872. Jul 02 19:19:40 <Tylzen> multi-mod, Who knows..
  1873. Jul 02 19:19:44 <XenoBen> see, if bernie was president this never would have happened
  1874. Jul 02 19:19:45 <Tylzen> Any IAMA mods on here?
  1875. Jul 02 19:19:52 <x_minus_one> this is amazing https://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/3bvkf0/stop_throwing_beer_cans_on_my_lawn_while_im/
  1876. Jul 02 19:19:52 <gonzobot> (x_minus_one) Stop throwing beer cans on my lawn while I'm trying to mow it. : self - 28 comments, 135 points - K_Lobstah, 8h ago
  1877. Jul 02 19:19:57 <multi-mod> most IAMA mods don't really idle here
  1878. Jul 02 19:20:02 <snarkypants> happyquid is gone to?
  1879. Jul 02 19:20:09 <allthefoxes> https://www.reddit.com/r/circlebroke/comments/3bwwb6/reddit_abruptly_fires_ama_liason_victoria_in_the/csqe3q6?context=3
  1880. Jul 02 19:20:17 <Wodashit> Tylzen: The latest one probably, admitting that's not at the same time
  1881. Jul 02 19:20:19 <allthefoxes> First a podcast, now a different thing?
  1882. Jul 02 19:20:33 <Tylzen> I wonder what the fuck they will do with their IAMA app :D
  1883. Jul 02 19:20:41 <snarkypants> probably hire somebody else
  1884. Jul 02 19:20:46 <Tylzen> A new update - Open the app "Please email us at ama@reddit.com"
  1885. Jul 02 19:20:55 <Wodashit> Tylzen: Shove it
  1886. Jul 02 19:21:08 <Tylzen> snarkypants, It is just hillariously sad they didn't have some kind of substitute ready for emergencies.
  1887. Jul 02 19:21:17 <Tylzen> Wodashit, I don't have a shovel :(
  1888. Jul 02 19:21:29 <teaearlgraycold> Do y'all think we'll ever get an explanation as to why Victoria left reddit/was kicked out of reddit?
  1889. Jul 02 19:21:36 <allthefoxes> Actually it wasnt 45 minutes, it was around 2 hours
  1890. Jul 02 19:21:36 <elfa82> no
  1891. Jul 02 19:21:37 <x_minus_one> only if yishan comes back
  1892. Jul 02 19:21:37 <Wodashit> Tylzen: I meant their apps, wasn't fast enough, sry
  1893. Jul 02 19:21:43 <werner__herzog> no and that's probably a good thing
  1894. Jul 02 19:21:51 <teaearlgraycold> Tylzen, kn0thing is their backup
  1895. Jul 02 19:21:57 <teaearlgraycold> He says he's covering in the mean time
  1896. Jul 02 19:22:10 <allthefoxes> IAMA went private at 13:00 - ama@reddit.com was up at 15:15
  1897. Jul 02 19:22:13 <Tylzen> teaearlgraycold, He did? All I have read from him is email ama@reddit.com
  1898. Jul 02 19:22:16 <allthefoxes> so, 2 hours
  1899. Jul 02 19:22:20 <Wodashit> teaearlgraycold: Was not really effective
  1900. Jul 02 19:22:33 <teaearlgraycold> Tylzen, that's what he said in a comment
  1901. Jul 02 19:22:33 <Tylzen> Wait they didn't have ama@reddit.com all the time?
  1902. Jul 02 19:22:36 <Tylzen> They just made it right now?
  1903. Jul 02 19:22:37 <creesch> r/history just went private
  1904. Jul 02 19:22:44 <teaearlgraycold> I thought ama@reddit wasn't new
  1905. Jul 02 19:22:50 <teaearlgraycold> Shit
  1906. Jul 02 19:22:53 <Tylzen> God that makes it even more hillarious
  1907. Jul 02 19:22:54 <teaearlgraycold> creesch, like JUST now?
  1908. Jul 02 19:22:55 <snarkypants> oh makig the sub private is just something mods are doing
  1909. Jul 02 19:22:59 <XenoBen> Is history default?
  1910. Jul 02 19:23:03 <creesch> Yes
  1911. Jul 02 19:23:11 <snarkypants> so reddit admimns didnt make the sub a default, the mods are just making the private?
  1912. Jul 02 19:23:39 <multi-mod> I knew you and agentlame wouldn't let them slide :P
  1913. Jul 02 19:23:41 <PM> lol history fucking /r/history
  1914. Jul 02 19:23:53 <XenoBen> .mods history
  1915. Jul 02 19:23:53 <gonzobot> (XenoBen) Sorry r/history is set to private and I cannot access it.
  1916. Jul 02 19:23:56 <XenoBen> oh yhea
  1917. Jul 02 19:23:57 <XenoBen> haha
  1918. Jul 02 19:23:58 <ManWithoutModem> <teaearlgraycold> Do y'all think we'll ever get an explanation as to why Victoria left reddit/was kicked out of reddit?
  1919. Jul 02 19:23:58 <ManWithoutModem> she lived in nyc
  1920. Jul 02 19:24:10 <redstonehelper> doubt that's the reason
  1921. Jul 02 19:24:11 <Tylzen> I wonder what would happen if all defaults go private.
  1922. Jul 02 19:24:13 <teaearlgraycold> Really? Oh - so this was a long time coming?
  1923. Jul 02 19:24:25 <teaearlgraycold> But being in NYC is great for a person like herself
  1924. Jul 02 19:24:26 <multi-mod> r/history has gone private in protest of not being able to have historical figures do AMAs
  1925. Jul 02 19:24:32 <XenoBen> all of kn0thing posts are getting downvoted
  1926. Jul 02 19:24:40 <teaearlgraycold> multi-mod, :P
  1927. Jul 02 19:24:49 <snarkypants> if the deafults go private, then a bunch of other subreddits will be on the front page instead
  1928. Jul 02 19:24:51 <teaearlgraycold> XenoBen, I don't think he deserves that
  1929. Jul 02 19:24:51 <XenoBen> so what subs are closed now?
  1930. Jul 02 19:24:52 <Nesquik> .mods gaming
  1931. Jul 02 19:24:52 <gonzobot> (Nesquik) Sorry r/gaming is set to private and I cannot access it.
  1932. Jul 02 19:24:59 <redstonehelper> woah.
  1933. Jul 02 19:25:05 <XenoBen> teaearlgraycold: his recent posts make it sound like a dick
  1934. Jul 02 19:25:10 <teaearlgraycold> snarkypants, ELI5's not going private, neither will DiB
  1935. Jul 02 19:25:15 <psdtwk> snarkypants: that isn't how the frontpage works
  1936. Jul 02 19:25:16 <multi-mod> haha, I guess a lot of mods are getting home from work/school now
  1937. Jul 02 19:25:22 <snarkypants> i mean ALL
  1938. Jul 02 19:25:24 <teaearlgraycold> psdtwk, that's how /r/all works
  1939. Jul 02 19:25:25 <snarkypants> not a users frot page
  1940. Jul 02 19:25:27 <XenoBen> gaming closed now?
  1941. Jul 02 19:25:41 <teaearlgraycold> reddit.com/ is pleb tier
  1942. Jul 02 19:25:57 <snarkypants> there really wont be much of a noticeable impact for the average user that just scrolls around and doens't contribute
  1943. Jul 02 19:26:04 <PM> isn't sporkside the head admins of /r/gaming?
  1944. Jul 02 19:26:14 <PM> how did she/he allow that lol
  1945. Jul 02 19:26:25 <PM> head mod
  1946. Jul 02 19:26:27 <allthefoxes> hahaha
  1947. Jul 02 19:26:29 <NumberTwoFan> not spork
  1948. Jul 02 19:26:29 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Traffic is the meat of reddit.
  1949. Jul 02 19:26:31 <NumberTwoFan> devack
  1950. Jul 02 19:26:34 <Nesquik> Demorz(?) is the head mod there
  1951. Jul 02 19:26:41 <Tylzen> snarkypants, And without things to pull people to the site, or less things, means less traffic.
  1952. Jul 02 19:26:41 <NumberTwoFan> demorz is head of games
  1953. Jul 02 19:26:42 <teaearlgraycold> Deimorz IIRC
  1954. Jul 02 19:26:47 <allthefoxes> !mods games
  1955. Jul 02 19:26:47 <redditBot> r/games has 15 mods: tevoul, Pharnaces_II, fishingcat, foamed, Piemonkey, AutoModerator, nalixor, selib, Protocol_Fenrir, Blackadder18, creesch, SirkTheMonkey, Rubber_Duckie_, xSaiyan, and Sugioh
  1956. Jul 02 19:26:51 <tizorres> lol how many subs went private?
  1957. Jul 02 19:26:52 <allthefoxes> MAN THE CANNONS
  1958. Jul 02 19:26:54 <teaearlgraycold> !mods gaming
  1959. Jul 02 19:26:55 <redditBot> r/gaming doesn't exist or is private
  1960. Jul 02 19:27:00 <teaearlgraycold> kek
  1961. Jul 02 19:27:02 <Foamed> yo wat
  1962. Jul 02 19:27:11 <MillenniumFalc0n> deimors is games, dacvak is gaming
  1963. Jul 02 19:27:13 <teaearlgraycold> Cause it's private now, Foamed
  1964. Jul 02 19:27:16 <MillenniumFalc0n> and dac no longer works for reddit
  1965. Jul 02 19:27:18 <tizorres> r/gaming can't do AMA's! boo
  1966. Jul 02 19:27:27 <Foamed> deimorz and dacvak are no longer part of r/games
  1967. Jul 02 19:27:28 <teaearlgraycold> tizorres, our freedoms!
  1968. Jul 02 19:27:33 <teaearlgraycold> They're not protected
  1969. Jul 02 19:27:33 <snarkypants> Im not sure what making the subs private is supposed to accomplish
  1970. Jul 02 19:27:34 <creesch> !mods history
  1971. Jul 02 19:27:34 <redditBot> r/history doesn't exist or is private
  1972. Jul 02 19:27:34 <tizorres> FREE DOOM
  1973. Jul 02 19:27:37 <PM> ih deimors left r/games :(
  1974. Jul 02 19:27:42 <Foamed> yep
  1975. Jul 02 19:27:43 <snarkypants> if its disruptive, I think mods are risking being removed
  1976. Jul 02 19:27:51 <MillenniumFalc0n> oh shit
  1977. Jul 02 19:27:53 <MillenniumFalc0n> I missed that
  1978. Jul 02 19:27:58 <teaearlgraycold> I'm pretty sure we're going to have a /r/wow situation
  1979. Jul 02 19:28:04 <teaearlgraycold> The admins will reinstate the subs
  1980. Jul 02 19:28:14 <TheAppleFreak> what subreddits aren't private at this point
  1981. Jul 02 19:28:14 <teaearlgraycold> Remove whoever set it to private (checking the logs)
  1982. Jul 02 19:28:23 <tizorres> tbh kinda dumb to private them idk
  1983. Jul 02 19:28:24 <teaearlgraycold> TheAppleFreak, ELI5 and DIB at least
  1984. Jul 02 19:28:25 <snarkypants> the reason she is no longer employed is confidential, and if they wanted people to know, they would write a blog about it
  1985. Jul 02 19:28:26 <coloicito> Log in as the shared mod acount: problem solved
  1986. Jul 02 19:28:26 <Tylzen> Who are going ot mod them then?
  1987. Jul 02 19:28:33 <Tylzen> Is there going to be a bidding war ? :D
  1988. Jul 02 19:28:39 <teaearlgraycold> A books mod wanted to go private
  1989. Jul 02 19:28:39 <snarkypants> and if she wanted everybody to know, she would have tweeted it to the world
  1990. Jul 02 19:28:41 <Tylzen> Or are the admins going to take over.
  1991. Jul 02 19:28:43 <teaearlgraycold> !mods books
  1992. Jul 02 19:28:43 <redditBot> r/books has 29 mods: illuminatedwax, DaedalusMinion, reetnz, pithyretort, boib, brigodon, themightiestduck, AutoModerator, thewretchedhole, IAmTheRedWizards, imakuram, Abe_lincolin, zomboi, euric, CycleModRecs, wemtastic, elquesogrande, ky1e, CandyMan77, jessajuhanabi, b93, vincoug, BubblezTron, BookAMA, KarlyPilkoids, qtx, Chtorrr, satanspanties, and celosia89
  1993. Jul 02 19:28:46 <blueshiftlabs> coloicito: the admins can pull IP logs
  1994. Jul 02 19:28:47 <XenoBen> teaearlgraycold: that would cause an outcry
  1995. Jul 02 19:28:54 <coloicito> Use Tor
  1996. Jul 02 19:28:54 <x_minus_one> but the mods own the sub and can choose what to do with it lolololol
  1997. Jul 02 19:28:55 <teaearlgraycold> XenoBen, they've already done it before
  1998. Jul 02 19:29:10 <teaearlgraycold> With no outcry - although it was "for the best" in that case
  1999. Jul 02 19:29:31 <blueshiftlabs> teaearlgraycold: if they did it this time, I'm pretty sure there would be revolts
  2000. Jul 02 19:29:42 <teaearlgraycold> Well too late on the revolt part
  2001. Jul 02 19:29:58 <agentlame> !readers history
  2002. Jul 02 19:29:58 <redditBot> r/history doesn't exist or is private
  2003. Jul 02 19:30:06 <tizorres> rules: breaking reddit
  2004. Jul 02 19:30:08 <tizorres> lel
  2005. Jul 02 19:30:09 <PM> is Deimorz still and admin? he no doesn't mod /r/reddit.com, etc and other admin subs.
  2006. Jul 02 19:30:19 <teaearlgraycold> He's an admin
  2007. Jul 02 19:30:19 <agentlame> Oh... of course that wouldn't work.
  2008. Jul 02 19:30:26 <teaearlgraycold> But he doesn't deal with the admin-mail shit
  2009. Jul 02 19:30:32 <multi-mod> lol agentlame
  2010. Jul 02 19:30:34 <teaearlgraycold> Heh, agentlame :P
  2011. Jul 02 19:30:37 <blueshiftlabs> he's on the team page
  2012. Jul 02 19:30:40 <allthefoxes> 5 defualts down
  2013. Jul 02 19:30:43 <blueshiftlabs> https://www.reddit.com/about/team
  2014. Jul 02 19:30:44 <agentlame> He's for sure an admin.
  2015. Jul 02 19:30:45 <kerovon> He is an admin. You can look at https://www.reddit.com/user/deimorz and se the little red [A] by his name.
  2016. Jul 02 19:30:46 <andytuba> PM: check userpage for [A] next to username in sidebar
  2017. Jul 02 19:30:47 <teaearlgraycold> There's a lot of default though
  2018. Jul 02 19:30:49 <allthefoxes> hes absolutely an admin
  2019. Jul 02 19:30:54 <teaearlgraycold> AskReddit's the biggest default right?
  2020. Jul 02 19:31:03 <multi-mod> I think funny or pics is
  2021. Jul 02 19:31:04 <allthefoxes> yes
  2022. Jul 02 19:31:08 <allthefoxes> AR wins now
  2023. Jul 02 19:31:09 <allthefoxes> beat funny
  2024. Jul 02 19:31:14 <multi-mod> oh, didn't even notice that
  2025. Jul 02 19:31:14 <PM> andytuba, saw that thought it was RES.
  2026. Jul 02 19:31:22 <andytuba> no, miamiz added it a few weeks ago
  2027. Jul 02 19:31:25 <kerovon> Askreddit is 300k larger than science.
  2028. Jul 02 19:31:26 <andytuba> RES doesn't bother tracking admins
  2029. Jul 02 19:31:30 <PM> k cool
  2030. Jul 02 19:31:31 <XenoBen> if ar went private, that would be spectacular.
  2031. Jul 02 19:31:33 <teaearlgraycold> karmanaught should go rouge and take down all of his subs
  2032. Jul 02 19:31:46 <andytuba> how about magenta instead
  2033. Jul 02 19:31:48 <teaearlgraycold> XenoBen, I'd go out to 7/11 and buy popcorn for the occasion
  2034. Jul 02 19:31:50 <kerovon> askreddit has about 5k more than funny
  2035. Jul 02 19:31:51 <blueshiftlabs> go plaid
  2036. Jul 02 19:31:52 <joyouscacophony> How you holding up krispykrackers?
  2037. Jul 02 19:32:01 <multi-mod> I think KK just gave up
  2038. Jul 02 19:32:14 <teaearlgraycold> Heh, yeah. I'm sorry krispy. Not the best thursday
  2039. Jul 02 19:32:18 <multi-mod> just when the Pao stuff was cooling down, now this
  2040. Jul 02 19:32:23 <XenoBen> what subs are down atm then?
  2041. Jul 02 19:32:28 <coloicito> has /r/gaming gone down?
  2042. Jul 02 19:32:31 <teaearlgraycold> Yes
  2043. Jul 02 19:32:32 <XenoBen> yes
  2044. Jul 02 19:32:33 <JustPassingThrough> multi-mod cooling down? funny way to put it
  2045. Jul 02 19:32:34 <multi-mod> now I'm tortured by /r/all being primarily /r/pics and /r/funny
  2046. Jul 02 19:32:36 <teaearlgraycold> And history recently
  2047. Jul 02 19:32:37 <joyouscacophony> and history coloicito
  2048. Jul 02 19:32:44 <teaearlgraycold> multi-mod, I have both filtered
  2049. Jul 02 19:32:47 <coloicito> wow
  2050. Jul 02 19:33:02 <teaearlgraycold> tizorres, you should take down CC for the lols
  2051. Jul 02 19:33:06 <multi-mod> I used to before SEO_killer, but now that SEO killer is dead I may filter some more subs again
  2052. Jul 02 19:33:17 <tizorres> i don't like lauging
  2053. Jul 02 19:33:28 <teaearlgraycold> SEO killer's dead ?
  2054. Jul 02 19:33:33 <multi-mod> yea
  2055. Jul 02 19:33:36 <teaearlgraycold> Sorry to hear
  2056. Jul 02 19:33:43 <Foamed> now r/all is just totally garbage instead of being pretty damn garbage
  2057. Jul 02 19:34:02 <teaearlgraycold> IAMA history and gaming don't take up most of the top 25
  2058. Jul 02 19:34:04 <XenoBen> !meme shitpost;all the subs
  2059. Jul 02 19:34:04 <blueshiftlabs> haw have I never heard of SEO killer before?
  2060. Jul 02 19:34:05 <memebot> XenoBen: http://i.imgur.com/Pnloip9.jpg
  2061. Jul 02 19:34:05 <teaearlgraycold> And gaming is garbage
  2062. Jul 02 19:34:24 <teaearlgraycold> gg, blueshiftlabs.
  2063. Jul 02 19:34:26 <coloicito> what was that website that listed subreddits by activity?
  2064. Jul 02 19:34:27 <teaearlgraycold> You heard too late
  2065. Jul 02 19:34:30 <x_minus_one> I'll miss SEO_Killer's weekly modmail spam
  2066. Jul 02 19:34:52 <Nesquik> I was thinking casualconversation would be the best to make private, it would set us up as a staple for jokes forever
  2067. Jul 02 19:35:08 <XenoBen> I want askreddit to go private now
  2068. Jul 02 19:35:11 <XenoBen> be like fireworks.
  2069. Jul 02 19:35:25 <XenoBen> science just gone down?
  2070. Jul 02 19:35:32 <TheAppleFreak> been down
  2071. Jul 02 19:35:33 <blueshiftlabs> science has been down
  2072. Jul 02 19:35:35 <XenoBen> ah ok
  2073. Jul 02 19:35:37 <x_minus_one> science has been down
  2074. Jul 02 19:35:37 <multi-mod> just take away people's memes, that will get them fired up, by closing down adviceanimals
  2075. Jul 02 19:35:37 <blueshiftlabs> we're up to 5 now
  2076. Jul 02 19:35:40 <x_minus_one> jinx
  2077. Jul 02 19:35:45 <XenoBen> someone keep track
  2078. Jul 02 19:35:52 <teaearlgraycold> tizorres, listen to Nesquik
  2079. Jul 02 19:35:58 <teaearlgraycold> He knows what he's talking about
  2080. Jul 02 19:35:58 <blueshiftlabs> iama, science, movies, history, and gaming
  2081. Jul 02 19:36:04 <teaearlgraycold> movies?
  2082. Jul 02 19:36:05 <teaearlgraycold> Shit
  2083. Jul 02 19:36:14 <TheAppleFreak> and circlejerk
  2084. Jul 02 19:36:14 <teaearlgraycold> !mods movies
  2085. Jul 02 19:36:15 <redditBot> r/movies doesn't exist or is private
  2086. Jul 02 19:36:23 <teaearlgraycold> TheAppleFreak, I dont' count CJ
  2087. Jul 02 19:36:26 <Nesquik> SRD post "casualconversation goes serious"
  2088. Jul 02 19:36:33 <teaearlgraycold> Nesquik, :D
  2089. Jul 02 19:36:35 <blueshiftlabs> doooo eeeeeeet
  2090. Jul 02 19:36:36 <tizorres> Cj has been private for like weeks
  2091. Jul 02 19:36:37 <multi-mod> I think going private undefaults them automatically
  2092. Jul 02 19:36:41 <tizorres> xD
  2093. Jul 02 19:36:48 <teaearlgraycold> tizorres, come on - just for like 30 minutes
  2094. Jul 02 19:36:49 <TheAppleFreak> tizorres: look at the private message
  2095. Jul 02 19:36:52 <gilgamesh> tizorres the message change
  2096. Jul 02 19:36:53 <gilgamesh> dd
  2097. Jul 02 19:36:55 <tizorres> boo
  2098. Jul 02 19:36:58 <tizorres> i know
  2099. Jul 02 19:37:08 <teaearlgraycold> What message
  2100. Jul 02 19:37:37 <tizorres> https://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk/comments/3bx1uz/a_message_from_the_moderators_of_rcirclejerk/
  2101. Jul 02 19:37:54 <tizorres> oh ya u cant read dat xD
  2102. Jul 02 19:37:56 <greenduch> lol
  2103. Jul 02 19:38:01 <XenoBen> pls tizorres
  2104. Jul 02 19:38:03 <Nesquik> lol
  2105. Jul 02 19:38:06 <blueshiftlabs> screenshot?
  2106. Jul 02 19:38:09 <Nesquik> I should have known
  2107. Jul 02 19:38:13 <x_plus_popcorn> off topic, but omg I'm dying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f_kavukuKI
  2108. Jul 02 19:38:13 <gonzobot> (x_plus_popcorn) Kids Read Mean Tweets - length 1m 13s - 17,610 likes, 1,090 dislikes (94.2%) - 3,568,484 views - Canadian Safe School Network on 2015.03.11
  2109. Jul 02 19:38:44 <allthefoxes> you know what
  2110. Jul 02 19:38:47 <allthefoxes> lets talk about something happier
  2111. Jul 02 19:38:54 <tizorres> it's litreally the message from mods thing on the private page
  2112. Jul 02 19:38:55 <allthefoxes> for instance, im just a few karma away from being in CC
  2113. Jul 02 19:39:02 <gilgamesh> art just went as well
  2114. Jul 02 19:39:04 <XenoBen> inb4 cc private
  2115. Jul 02 19:39:04 <Nesquik> tizorres, pls.. private for 30 minutes
  2116. Jul 02 19:40:00 <tizorres> i will for 1 million dollars
  2117. Jul 02 19:40:02 <tizorres> https://youtu.be/cKKHSAE1gIs?t=15s
  2118. Jul 02 19:40:02 <gonzobot> (tizorres) Dr Evil in 1 million Dollars - length 1m 58s - 3,784 likes, 101 dislikes (97.4%) - 1,257,067 views - Pierre Pavia on 2008.07.11
  2119. Jul 02 19:40:09 <teaearlgraycold> allthefoxes, what?
  2120. Jul 02 19:40:13 <allthefoxes> !karma allthefoxes
  2121. Jul 02 19:40:13 <redditBot> allthefoxes has 48,022 link karma and 99,487 comment karma.
  2122. Jul 02 19:40:16 <teaearlgraycold> karma requirements for CC?
  2123. Jul 02 19:40:20 <allthefoxes> almost 100k comment karma ^_^
  2124. Jul 02 19:40:25 <JustPassingThrough> /r/art is private
  2125. Jul 02 19:40:25 <multi-mod> "the decline of reddit throughout Yishan and subsequently Chairman Poa's regime"
  2126. Jul 02 19:40:25 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to MillenniumFalc0n
  2127. Jul 02 19:40:27 <teaearlgraycold> Oh
  2128. Jul 02 19:40:32 --- MillenniumFalc0n sets invite on R:SlyRatchet
  2129. Jul 02 19:40:33 <teaearlgraycold> Yeah
  2130. Jul 02 19:40:35 <multi-mod> when real life becomes parody
  2131. Jul 02 19:40:46 --- MillenniumFalc0n removes channel operator status from MillenniumFalc0n
  2132. Jul 02 19:40:49 <tizorres> eh's talking about century club
  2133. Jul 02 19:40:59 <teaearlgraycold> Chaiman Poa's reign has never been favorable
  2134. Jul 02 19:41:19 <teaearlgraycold> They should get Steve Wozniak instead
  2135. Jul 02 19:41:24 <Tylzen> is Reddit public or private company?
  2136. Jul 02 19:41:31 <XenoBen> private
  2137. Jul 02 19:41:36 <teaearlgraycold> They were public at one point, right?
  2138. Jul 02 19:41:41 <teaearlgraycold> Or were there just rumors
  2139. Jul 02 19:41:53 <XenoBen> Only public if in stocks isnt it?
  2140. Jul 02 19:41:59 <Tylzen> So who owns i?
  2141. Jul 02 19:42:01 <Flashynuff> Hey MillenniumFalc0n, can you invite INeedAnswers123 and feedthecollapse? They're both /r/listentothis mods who aren't in here yet
  2142. Jul 02 19:42:06 <XenoBen> Yhea its private
  2143. Jul 02 19:42:24 <XenoBen> As of August 2012, Reddit operates as an independent entity, although Advance is still its largest shareholder
  2144. Jul 02 19:42:31 <XenoBen> Advance Publications
  2145. Jul 02 19:42:55 <MillenniumFalc0n> Flashynuff: have them send me pms on reddit to confirm their identities
  2146. Jul 02 19:43:05 <allthefoxes> XenoBen, the baord of reddit is Ellen, Alexis, and a dude from AP
  2147. Jul 02 19:43:15 <Flashynuff> sure. Are you able to invite them to #defaultmods while you're at it
  2148. Jul 02 19:43:54 <andytuba> Flashynuff: isn't there a process for that?
  2149. Jul 02 19:44:04 <andytuba> oh i guess MF can be the process
  2150. Jul 02 19:44:11 <Tylzen> They have a 3 people board?
  2151. Jul 02 19:44:23 <allthefoxes> yes
  2152. Jul 02 19:44:27 <x_plus_popcorn> can we start sending questions to ama@reddit.com? lol
  2153. Jul 02 19:44:29 <Tylzen> That gave me tics.
  2154. Jul 02 19:44:30 <allthefoxes> unless its changed in the last couple years
  2155. Jul 02 19:44:34 <allthefoxes> lol
  2156. Jul 02 19:44:44 <Flashynuff> Can we really ask reddit anything?
  2157. Jul 02 19:44:53 <Tylzen> They just created that email
  2158. Jul 02 19:45:01 <Tylzen> Hah, I would love to peek at the mails it will get.
  2159. Jul 02 19:45:12 <MillenniumFalc0n> andytuba: we don't have a process for #modtalk, if you fit the subscriber count requirement you're in
  2160. Jul 02 19:45:18 <Flashynuff> ooooohhh, I'm excited. I'm going to ask what color shirt I should wear tomorrow.
  2161. Jul 02 19:45:24 <MillenniumFalc0n> or at least that's how we've run the chan as long as I can remember
  2162. Jul 02 19:45:25 <rya> wow with all the subs going down
  2163. Jul 02 19:45:33 <MillenniumFalc0n> now getting into the subreddit is another question
  2164. Jul 02 19:45:35 <rya> TIFU IS STAYING OPEN SO PLS COME POST UR FUCKUPS
  2165. Jul 02 19:45:36 <Tylzen> The frontpage is going to be interesting for new users.
  2166. Jul 02 19:45:38 <allthefoxes> https://www.reddit.com/r/askreddit
  2167. Jul 02 19:45:40 <allthefoxes> JAJAJAJAJA
  2168. Jul 02 19:45:43 <allthefoxes> NO WAY
  2169. Jul 02 19:45:48 <MillenniumFalc0n> Flashynuff: re: #defaultmods yes
  2170. Jul 02 19:45:50 <x_plus_popcorn> WHATTTTTTT
  2171. Jul 02 19:45:51 <x_plus_popcorn> oh my god
  2172. Jul 02 19:45:52 <multi-mod> I guess karmanaut is pissed
  2173. Jul 02 19:45:54 <blueshiftlabs> !readers askreddit
  2174. Jul 02 19:45:55 <redditBot> r/askreddit doesn't exist or is private
  2175. Jul 02 19:45:57 <allthefoxes> ALL ABOARD
  2176. Jul 02 19:46:00 <coloicito> wooooo
  2177. Jul 02 19:46:00 <x_plus_popcorn> BUTTER OVERLOAD
  2178. Jul 02 19:46:02 <rya> oh my god
  2179. Jul 02 19:46:04 <Tylzen> Hahaha
  2180. Jul 02 19:46:05 <x_plus_popcorn> guys i'm actually making popcorn
  2181. Jul 02 19:46:06 <Tylzen> Oh my god.
  2182. Jul 02 19:46:07 <Nesquik> rya, we have only had 24 posts in TIFU since the whole thing started lol
  2183. Jul 02 19:46:18 * x_plus_popcorn intensifies
  2184. Jul 02 19:46:21 <Flashynuff> rya: get kn0thing to post in TIFU
  2185. Jul 02 19:46:22 <Nesquik> not even a single "TIFU by firing victoria" troll post
  2186. Jul 02 19:46:26 <Flashynuff> haha
  2187. Jul 02 19:46:32 <rya> yea right?
  2188. Jul 02 19:46:39 <XenoBen> i need popcorn
  2189. Jul 02 19:46:39 <Tylzen> TIFU?
  2190. Jul 02 19:46:40 <multi-mod> gentlemen, we are heading into dangerous territory where /r/all will be dominated by /r/funny and /r/adviceanimals
  2191. Jul 02 19:46:41 <rya> hehe
  2192. Jul 02 19:46:42 <XenoBen> someone give me popcorn
  2193. Jul 02 19:46:50 <PM> meh I hope lots of users get demodded
  2194. Jul 02 19:46:53 <rya> tifu is going to stay alive to welcome all the fuckups of today
  2195. Jul 02 19:46:55 <tizorres> askreddit is private boo
  2196. Jul 02 19:47:12 <x_plus_popcorn> This feels like the part of Jimmy Neutron where all the parents are gone.
  2197. Jul 02 19:47:17 <multi-mod> tifu by firing /u/chooter, AMA
  2198. Jul 02 19:47:21 <rya> hehe
  2199. Jul 02 19:47:24 <Locutus> fucking hell
  2200. Jul 02 19:47:31 <Tylzen> This is hillarious
  2201. Jul 02 19:47:33 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to MillenniumFalc0n
  2202. Jul 02 19:47:43 <Locutus> y'all suck. i'm moving my subs to voat.
  2203. Jul 02 19:47:48 --- MillenniumFalc0n sets invite on R:ineedanswers123
  2204. Jul 02 19:47:48 <Tylzen> hah
  2205. Jul 02 19:47:51 <greenduch> lol
  2206. Jul 02 19:47:55 <Tylzen> Locutus, Be careful, you might overload their servers.
  2207. Jul 02 19:47:57 <werner__herzog> stop going private guys, our modqueue is crazy
  2208. Jul 02 19:47:58 --- MillenniumFalc0n sets invite on R:feedthecollapse
  2209. Jul 02 19:48:04 --- MillenniumFalc0n removes channel operator status from MillenniumFalc0n
  2210. Jul 02 19:48:05 <XenoBen> bets on next sub guys
  2211. Jul 02 19:48:10 <XenoBen> im feeling pics or funny
  2212. Jul 02 19:48:12 <allthefoxes> AA
  2213. Jul 02 19:48:13 <Tylzen> I am glad that ADHD and Parenting doesn't get hit by this :D
  2214. Jul 02 19:48:16 <allthefoxes> pics isnt unless funny does
  2215. Jul 02 19:48:17 <blueshiftlabs> AA
  2216. Jul 02 19:48:18 <werner__herzog> also look at all these drama lamas joining for the drama
  2217. Jul 02 19:48:20 <MillenniumFalc0n> huh
  2218. Jul 02 19:48:26 <XenoBen> aa?
  2219. Jul 02 19:48:31 <allthefoxes> adivce animals
  2220. Jul 02 19:48:32 <Locutus> SRC.
  2221. Jul 02 19:48:32 <Tylzen> Advice Animals.
  2222. Jul 02 19:48:33 <x_plus_popcorn> holy shit askreddit
  2223. Jul 02 19:48:34 <MillenniumFalc0n> when did art go private
  2224. Jul 02 19:48:38 <MillenniumFalc0n> wow
  2225. Jul 02 19:48:40 <allthefoxes> MillenniumFalc0n, 20 min aho
  2226. Jul 02 19:48:41 <Tylzen> MillenniumFalc0n, 25 min or so ago
  2227. Jul 02 19:48:47 <JustPassingThrough> MillenniumFalc0n jfc askreddit tho
  2228. Jul 02 19:48:47 <MillenniumFalc0n> they used "chairman pao" in the message
  2229. Jul 02 19:48:53 <allthefoxes> yeah
  2230. Jul 02 19:48:55 <XenoBen> whats the count on now?
  2231. Jul 02 19:48:56 <allthefoxes> solidwhetstone is mad
  2232. Jul 02 19:48:56 <XenoBen> 7?
  2233. Jul 02 19:48:59 <allthefoxes> 7 subreddits
  2234. Jul 02 19:49:02 <x_plus_popcorn> noooooo not crappydesign
  2235. Jul 02 19:49:04 <MillenniumFalc0n> wait what the fuck
  2236. Jul 02 19:49:05 <MillenniumFalc0n> askreddit
  2237. Jul 02 19:49:12 <MillenniumFalc0n> but krispy is top mod
  2238. Jul 02 19:49:13 <teaearlgraycold> !mods askreddit
  2239. Jul 02 19:49:13 <redditBot> r/askreddit doesn't exist or is private
  2240. Jul 02 19:49:29 <xlnqeniuz> oh my
  2241. Jul 02 19:49:30 <SlyRatchet> Jesus bloody Christ
  2242. Jul 02 19:49:33 <xlnqeniuz> Askreddit private aswell
  2243. Jul 02 19:49:35 <werner__herzog> history, too
  2244. Jul 02 19:49:38 <XenoBen> SlyRatchet: close europe
  2245. Jul 02 19:49:40 <allthefoxes> https://www.reddit.com/r/IdeasForAskreddit/comments/3bxj7n/megathread_subreddit_shutdown/
  2246. Jul 02 19:49:40 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) [Megathread] Subreddit shutdown : IdeasForAskreddit - 32 comments, 2 points - DERPYBASTARD, 2m ago
  2247. Jul 02 19:49:53 <Locutus> Closing Europe would be a bit much
  2248. Jul 02 19:49:54 <coloicito> As long as my favorite ball-shaped subreddit doesn't go down, I'm fine
  2249. Jul 02 19:49:59 <Locutus> A few people live there
  2250. Jul 02 19:50:04 <SlyRatchet> We're considering it XenoBen.
  2251. Jul 02 19:50:13 <XenoBen> do it for the hell of it
  2252. Jul 02 19:50:16 <XenoBen> close ukpol too
  2253. Jul 02 19:50:18 <JustPassingThrough> hey
  2254. Jul 02 19:50:24 <Nesquik> https://www.reddit.com/r/BlameRya/comments/3bxjja/everything_on_reddit_is_becoming_private/
  2255. Jul 02 19:50:24 <gonzobot> (Nesquik) Everything on reddit is becoming private : BlameRya - 0 comments, 1 point - Quick_man, 42s ago
  2256. Jul 02 19:50:25 <x_plus_popcorn> close 'murica
  2257. Jul 02 19:50:27 <INeedAnswers123> r/listentothis is considering joining in aswell
  2258. Jul 02 19:50:34 <JustPassingThrough> im gonna go afk and draft a post in case we want to make a thread about this
  2259. Jul 02 19:50:38 <snarkypants> well good luck everybody
  2260. Jul 02 19:50:39 <JustPassingThrough> can you ping me when updates happen?
  2261. Jul 02 19:50:41 <Locutus> Do you have to open ukpol again afterwards?
  2262. Jul 02 19:50:44 <SlyRatchet> Locutus ASkreddit with however many million is fine, but /r/europe is more important? :P
  2263. Jul 02 19:50:48 <coloicito> My cat just made a backflip
  2264. Jul 02 19:50:51 <xlnqeniuz> brb pursuting the /r/videos mods to go private Kappa
  2265. Jul 02 19:50:54 <snarkypants> maybe reddit will start to staff that moderate
  2266. Jul 02 19:51:02 <xlnqeniuz> pursuating*
  2267. Jul 02 19:51:10 <snarkypants> i mean start employeeing staff to moderate
  2268. Jul 02 19:51:14 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: I actually use /r/Europe! Where else will I get my fix of people howling at Greece for the day? ;_;
  2269. Jul 02 19:51:17 <snarkypants> however you would spell that
  2270. Jul 02 19:51:24 <snarkypants> employing
  2271. Jul 02 19:51:24 <Locutus> I do worry that that might actually happen.
  2272. Jul 02 19:51:26 <teaearlgraycold> JustPassingThrough, thread about what?
  2273. Jul 02 19:51:30 <SlyRatchet> touché
  2274. Jul 02 19:51:40 <JustPassingThrough> thread about the private subs instead of going private ourselves
  2275. Jul 02 19:51:44 <Makiavelzx> xlnqeniuz : why did you leave the /r/videos mod team
  2276. Jul 02 19:51:47 <Locutus> Perhaps we might see admins installed in control of default subs as a precondition of their going default.
  2277. Jul 02 19:51:49 <Respectfullyyours> !mods art
  2278. Jul 02 19:51:49 <redditBot> r/art doesn't exist or is private
  2279. Jul 02 19:51:54 <Respectfullyyours> ugggh
  2280. Jul 02 19:52:02 <xlnqeniuz> coz I wasnt that fun for me anymore
  2281. Jul 02 19:52:06 <SlyRatchet> Locutus have you made BritPol private?
  2282. Jul 02 19:52:07 <xlnqeniuz> yo maki let's make /r/LoL private
  2283. Jul 02 19:52:16 <teaearlgraycold> So what are we at right now? art, crappydesign, history, science, iama, gaming, askreddit
  2284. Jul 02 19:52:20 <teaearlgraycold> Am I missing any?
  2285. Jul 02 19:52:20 <Makiavelzx> xlnqeniuz : picflute would get pissed off
  2286. Jul 02 19:52:25 <andytuba> crappyesign? lol
  2287. Jul 02 19:52:25 <tizorres> boo stop going private boo
  2288. Jul 02 19:52:28 <kerovon> circlejerk
  2289. Jul 02 19:52:29 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: I'm considering making /r/TrueBritishPolitics private. Far more important.
  2290. Jul 02 19:52:38 <Makiavelzx> he's already pissed off at all the defaults going hidden, do you know how pissed off he'd be about /r/LoL? oh man
  2291. Jul 02 19:52:43 <kerovon> movies
  2292. Jul 02 19:52:54 <XenoBen> close LoL
  2293. Jul 02 19:52:58 <XenoBen> for extra amazingness
  2294. Jul 02 19:53:02 <picflute> No
  2295. Jul 02 19:53:04 <picflute> We'
  2296. Jul 02 19:53:05 <Tylzen> If that happened I would laugh.
  2297. Jul 02 19:53:06 <Makiavel1> ugh my internet
  2298. Jul 02 19:53:10 <picflute> Not making lol private -_-
  2299. Jul 02 19:53:15 <XenoBen> pls
  2300. Jul 02 19:53:16 <Tylzen> picflute, Not even for a hug?
  2301. Jul 02 19:53:16 <Makiavel1> picflute : you don't decide for me
  2302. Jul 02 19:53:22 <xlnqeniuz> who cares about picflute anyway
  2303. Jul 02 19:53:26 <xlnqeniuz> he's just a picflute
  2304. Jul 02 19:53:27 <xlnqeniuz> :^)
  2305. Jul 02 19:53:32 <rya> :|
  2306. Jul 02 19:53:33 <Makiavel1> xlnqeniuz : arent you higher mod than him, just threaten him
  2307. Jul 02 19:53:40 <picflute> I will bend you all and fuck you hard like Riot did to Chris Badawi
  2308. Jul 02 19:53:42 <rya> imagine if everyone goes private
  2309. Jul 02 19:53:46 <xlnqeniuz> ROFL
  2310. Jul 02 19:53:49 <rya> reddit is kill
  2311. Jul 02 19:53:51 <xlnqeniuz> Bur what if I like that ;)
  2312. Jul 02 19:53:52 * XenoBen bends over
  2313. Jul 02 19:53:53 <XenoBen> take me
  2314. Jul 02 19:53:57 <rya> :|
  2315. Jul 02 19:54:02 <rya> ummm
  2316. Jul 02 19:54:03 <rya> no
  2317. Jul 02 19:54:03 <xlnqeniuz> :')
  2318. Jul 02 19:54:04 <picflute> Literally this is the stupidest shit i've seen
  2319. Jul 02 19:54:09 <xlnqeniuz> I mean
  2320. Jul 02 19:54:13 <xlnqeniuz> we dunno their reasoning
  2321. Jul 02 19:54:21 <picflute> Why not use your subreddits to get the people who are in charge of these decisions fired?
  2322. Jul 02 19:54:23 <xlnqeniuz> but it seems like a bandwagon that everyone is jumping in on
  2323. Jul 02 19:54:24 <tizorres> over reaction much
  2324. Jul 02 19:54:41 <XenoBen> i want to go to bed
  2325. Jul 02 19:54:45 <XenoBen> but this is too juicy
  2326. Jul 02 19:54:47 <picflute> It's something that needs to be done, there are people who make key decisions on reddit who aren't in touch with their community
  2327. Jul 02 19:54:48 <Ivashkin> I think it's more that there are many many issues with Reddit from a mods POV and this is the straw that broke the camels back
  2328. Jul 02 19:55:02 <picflute> Those people should be held accountable and terminated immediately
  2329. Jul 02 19:55:23 <picflute> But explain to me how the hell is making /r/gaming private going to help out
  2330. Jul 02 19:55:31 <supergauntlet> never mind that
  2331. Jul 02 19:55:33 <supergauntlet> askreddit
  2332. Jul 02 19:55:34 <supergauntlet> like why
  2333. Jul 02 19:55:38 <XenoBen> .yt rgaming
  2334. Jul 02 19:55:38 <gonzobot> (XenoBen) r/gaming [KawaiiPiranha Cartoons] - length 40s - 28,432 likes, 1,002 dislikes (96.6%) - 2,070,750 views - KawaiiPiranha on 2012.06.20 - http://youtu.be/KRKP3VbI41M
  2335. Jul 02 19:55:42 <SlyRatchet> What ivashkin said. I don't really care that this specifically worker is gone, but I'm pissed at a bunch of other admin related things because they don't give us any support
  2336. Jul 02 19:55:44 <Locutus> In terms of what we get out of this, I really do hope some serious, *useful* mod tools beyond just the modqueue and eldritch horror of modmail emerge
  2337. Jul 02 19:55:47 <XenoBen> video is relavent
  2338. Jul 02 19:55:56 <picflute> r/askreddit is owned by KK surprised she didn't say wtf you idiots
  2339. Jul 02 19:55:59 <allthefoxes> !mods askreddit
  2340. Jul 02 19:56:00 <redditBot> r/askreddit doesn't exist or is private
  2341. Jul 02 19:56:02 <allthefoxes> oh right
  2342. Jul 02 19:56:04 <Locutus> A fix for modmail would be such a relief.
  2343. Jul 02 19:56:05 <allthefoxes> thanks redditbot
  2344. Jul 02 19:56:09 <allthefoxes> /s
  2345. Jul 02 19:56:16 <Ivashkin> picflute, it makes Reddit Inc aware that without users and mods they are people who own an expensive server farm and little else
  2346. Jul 02 19:56:21 <x_plus_popcorn> That's it. I made /r/x_minus_one private.
  2347. Jul 02 19:56:25 <SlyRatchet> Is there any sort of charter of demands/requests that is floating around?
  2348. Jul 02 19:56:27 <allthefoxes> GASP
  2349. Jul 02 19:56:45 <allthefoxes> SlyRatchet, not really. just a request of "stop being silent non communicating jerks :(
  2350. Jul 02 19:56:45 <weeedbot> I do not support this request.
  2351. Jul 02 19:56:49 <SlyRatchet> Does reddit even own the servers? ;)
  2352. Jul 02 19:56:56 <allthefoxes> no
  2353. Jul 02 19:56:59 <allthefoxes> they use AWS
  2354. Jul 02 19:57:05 <Locutus> "Demands" might be a bit much - but requests, definitely, if anyone wants to pull something together
  2355. Jul 02 19:57:17 <rya> isnt krispykrackers the top mod of askreddit ?
  2356. Jul 02 19:57:20 <picflute> yup
  2357. Jul 02 19:57:21 <Makiavel> yes she is
  2358. Jul 02 19:57:23 <rya> how did she allow dat haha
  2359. Jul 02 19:57:26 <SlyRatchet> haha, so if all of the moderators black out, they're literally just an office with some people in it.
  2360. Jul 02 19:57:26 <picflute> So it's interesting whether or not she noticed yet
  2361. Jul 02 19:57:27 <krispykrackers> I’m not getting into a mod battle with my team
  2362. Jul 02 19:57:32 <allthefoxes> stop pinging kk :(
  2363. Jul 02 19:57:33 <krispykrackers> this looks unilateral though
  2364. Jul 02 19:57:37 <allthefoxes> its a rough day
  2365. Jul 02 19:57:38 <picflute> LOL
  2366. Jul 02 19:57:44 <rya> aw
  2367. Jul 02 19:57:45 <rya> haha
  2368. Jul 02 19:57:51 <multi-mod> I mean, everyone can bet it was karmanaut
  2369. Jul 02 19:58:05 <rya> i doubt it
  2370. Jul 02 19:58:07 <picflute> Can we take bets?
  2371. Jul 02 19:58:25 <Ivashkin> a turn of phrase, not a statement of fact. the truth is that reddit is heavily dependent on users who moderate, and they treat us like shit in a lot of cases. I spent a year trying to get help with 4chan bridgading and heard nothing from the admins
  2372. Jul 02 19:58:25 <teaearlgraycold> picflute, how many Bitcoins
  2373. Jul 02 19:58:35 <SlyRatchet> !mods outoftheloop
  2374. Jul 02 19:58:35 <redditBot> r/outoftheloop has 25 mods: MrWittyResponse, AdvocateForLucifer, T_Dumbsford, tara1, Rountree1, livefreeordont, ManWithoutModem, K_Lobstah, vxx, Kijafa, Diptura, pyrowolf8, I_Miss_Claire, splattypus, Werner__Herzog, ZMush, PanicOnFunkotron, TortoiseSex, RicoVig, DERPYBASTARD, cupcake1713, OBLIVIATER, cat_sweaterz, loyalcynic, and Gilgamesh-
  2375. Jul 02 19:58:36 <rya> i bet 2 cupcakes its redtaboo's fault
  2376. Jul 02 19:58:41 <picflute> I'll place a bet on Karmanaut using his influence on reddit to have the other defaults follo through
  2377. Jul 02 19:58:43 <kwiztas> .mods askreddit
  2378. Jul 02 19:58:44 <gonzobot> (kwiztas) Sorry r/askreddit is set to private and I cannot access it.
  2379. Jul 02 19:59:24 <Locutus> breaking
  2380. Jul 02 19:59:27 <Locutus> voat.co is down
  2381. Jul 02 19:59:29 <picflute> LMFAO
  2382. Jul 02 19:59:30 <kerovon> Picflute: As far as I am aware, karmanaut did not enter into any communication with the mods of /r/science
  2383. Jul 02 19:59:30 <teaearlgraycold> news?
  2384. Jul 02 19:59:30 <werner__herzog> we won't go private on OOTL, we're just taking in all the subscribers looking for a new place :D
  2385. Jul 02 19:59:32 <Tylzen> HAHAHA
  2386. Jul 02 19:59:37 <teaearlgraycold> Locutus, isn't it always down?
  2387. Jul 02 19:59:38 <kwiztas> LOL needs to go private where is buckeyesundae
  2388. Jul 02 19:59:42 <Locutus> Aw, it's back up again. That was brief.
  2389. Jul 02 19:59:42 <picflute> No
  2390. Jul 02 19:59:55 <picflute> r/Science mods were publicabout their decision
  2391. Jul 02 19:59:58 <ManWithoutModem> wait
  2392. Jul 02 20:00:02 <ManWithoutModem> yeah
  2393. Jul 02 20:00:07 <ManWithoutModem> no
  2394. Jul 02 20:00:10 <ManWithoutModem> i'm reading old convo
  2395. Jul 02 20:00:10 <Tylzen> Locutus, They cannot handle the load.. Stop telling people to go to VOAT, those poor servers :D
  2396. Jul 02 20:00:17 <picflute> And stated that because of this action it fucked up their internal projects
  2397. Jul 02 20:00:28 <picflute> Somehow those internal projects require the whole subredit being shut down.
  2398. Jul 02 20:00:32 <Flashynuff> /r/listentothis has closed submissions
  2399. Jul 02 20:00:56 <Locutus> Ivashkin: I wonder what could actually be done to help in that respect? Hiring more community managers? Allowing mods access to some level of referral URLs?
  2400. Jul 02 20:01:03 <MillenniumFalc0n> closed submissions? that's jsut going to confuse people
  2401. Jul 02 20:01:14 <Ivashkin> why does /r/upvoted contain Nigerian prince spam?
  2402. Jul 02 20:01:29 <picflute> We need to make this more significant, shut down /r/gonewild
  2403. Jul 02 20:01:36 <ManWithoutModem> <teaearlgraycold> But he doesn't deal with the admin-mail shityeah he does
  2404. Jul 02 20:01:49 <rya> i hope r/gonewild doesnt go private
  2405. Jul 02 20:01:50 <teaearlgraycold> ManWithoutModem, well then
  2406. Jul 02 20:01:51 <Makiavel> no picflute, don't do that
  2407. Jul 02 20:01:53 <kerovon> picflute: it was because for about 5 hours, we were getting told "Its okay. Everything is fine, jsut email us", not getting responses to the email, and even after they started responding (once we went private), they still have ducked all of the questions we had.
  2408. Jul 02 20:02:00 <picflute> I'd love for more analytics on wiki pages
  2409. Jul 02 20:02:09 <picflute> Like traffic stats that we get for subreddits
  2410. Jul 02 20:02:14 <multi-mod> that OOTL person is going to get themselves auto shadow banned if they start mass mailing subreddits
  2411. Jul 02 20:02:14 <Ivashkin> Locutus, ideally yes, they need community admins. a layer between the admins and the mods
  2412. Jul 02 20:02:26 <Tylzen> Can we shut down r/lounge? :D
  2413. Jul 02 20:02:26 <teaearlgraycold> OOTL?
  2414. Jul 02 20:02:38 <multi-mod> out of the loop
  2415. Jul 02 20:02:43 <picflute> Did you really expect responses on Day 0?
  2416. Jul 02 20:02:48 <teaearlgraycold> They're modmailing?
  2417. Jul 02 20:02:51 <teaearlgraycold> What exactly
  2418. Jul 02 20:02:56 <XenoBen> whats the full list of closed subs?
  2419. Jul 02 20:03:02 <picflute> Like fromwhat information was said about the incident do you really think it's going to work on the opening day
  2420. Jul 02 20:03:12 <teaearlgraycold> XenoBen, http://pastebin.com/Eh9NqHf1
  2421. Jul 02 20:03:15 <Tylzen> picflute, They didn't have any emergency plan..
  2422. Jul 02 20:03:15 <multi-mod> just https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csqg7om
  2423. Jul 02 20:03:16 <gonzobot> (multi-mod) Why has R/Iama been set to private? : OutOfTheLoop - 1,999 comments, 5,571 points - chickenmagic, 7h ago
  2424. Jul 02 20:03:20 <x_plus_popcorn> SRD should go private
  2425. Jul 02 20:03:22 <Locutus> XenoBen: https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit is keeping a running total. You can almost see them bouncing up and down with glee.
  2426. Jul 02 20:03:22 <teaearlgraycold> XenoBen, and CJ too if you coutn that
  2427. Jul 02 20:03:24 <Locutus> when it's accessible
  2428. Jul 02 20:03:26 <Tylzen> picflute, Imagine if she had been in an accident instead.. They had no backup
  2429. Jul 02 20:03:43 <multi-mod> I just got a modmail from him, but I think you can get auto shadow banned if you send out too many identical modmails
  2430. Jul 02 20:03:46 <picflute> Yea no shit but what exactly did you really expect to get out on day 0 of this change.
  2431. Jul 02 20:04:13 <SlyRatchet> Being realistic, it's going to take several days to get anything out of the reddit admins.
  2432. Jul 02 20:04:23 <picflute> So why is this such shocking news?
  2433. Jul 02 20:04:23 <Tylzen> picflute, No, but at least some compentent plan.. Not creating an email hours after to handle the sudden panic.
  2434. Jul 02 20:04:37 <Locutus> We'll probably hear a proper response within a day.
  2435. Jul 02 20:04:45 <kerovon> I would expect them to respond to questions. Even when the question was "Can you give us the contact of the person so we can finish finalizing the AMA", the response was basically "No, stay out of it. Trust us."
  2436. Jul 02 20:04:48 <Locutus> At the very least, "we're working on something"
  2437. Jul 02 20:04:48 <picflute> It took me almost 24 hours to get back from an admin to verify that I was doxxed by a user.
  2438. Jul 02 20:04:49 <Rlight> .>tfw studying for the bar all day, come back to reddit, and everything is exploding
  2439. Jul 02 20:04:53 <SlyRatchet> I think it'll be some sort of vague, statement
  2440. Jul 02 20:05:12 <picflute> Do you seriously think that they'd be ready to respond to everything day 0?
  2441. Jul 02 20:05:24 <Locutus> "Every Man is Responsible for his own Soul"
  2442. Jul 02 20:05:25 <Tylzen> picflute, Yeah, but this is about one of the largest subreddits, that generates a lot of traffic for reddit, one would have thought they had some plan, if their employee would suddenly stop being there.
  2443. Jul 02 20:05:26 <SlyRatchet> yeah. I know when we removed two moderators from the /r/europe team due to public pressure it took literally days of constant pressure on the mod team, (in addition to years of complaining before that point)
  2444. Jul 02 20:05:58 <XenoBen> SlyRatchet: what happened with the recent problems
  2445. Jul 02 20:06:00 <picflute> OK, but you're ignoring past behavior and are assuming that everyone was aware of this change when that clearly wasn't the case.
  2446. Jul 02 20:06:00 <XenoBen> with the french dude
  2447. Jul 02 20:06:26 <Tylzen> picflute, Sure, but still doesn't change the fact that Reddit from the top, made a clusterfuck out of this.
  2448. Jul 02 20:07:07 <Tylzen> picflute, If your organisation cannot handle the sudden disappearing of an employee, being that the person was let go, in an accident or suddenly ill.. Is just bad management and planning.
  2449. Jul 02 20:07:18 <SlyRatchet> Xenoben nothing? He's an excellent moderator, but it takes a lot of time to adjust to moderating 400,000 people in a politically charged in environment. We're doing a post mortem on that weird french language mega thread though. Talk to me about it in a different IRC chat though, because we're getting off topic
  2450. Jul 02 20:07:26 <picflute> But can you expect them to respond to it same day?
  2451. Jul 02 20:07:43 <picflute> If they didn't respond to you 24 hours later then I'd make a fuss
  2452. Jul 02 20:07:46 <Ivashkin> SlyRatchet, we're people do this in our spare time for "fun", they are a very valuable company whose main business is running a website
  2453. Jul 02 20:08:03 <picflute> But I'm reasonable I know that shit takes time and I rather get a proper response then a rushed one.
  2454. Jul 02 20:08:05 <Tylzen> picflute, Yeah, when they had people flying to NY to do AMA, and the agent told the mod team about the news.
  2455. Jul 02 20:08:13 <kerovon> picflute; The biggest thing is that /r/science was ignored through 5 different contact methods for 4 hours. After we went private, we actually got them to pay attention.
  2456. Jul 02 20:08:22 <picflute> Wow, 4 hours ?
  2457. Jul 02 20:08:37 <Tylzen> Which is a long time if you have AMAs planned with client.
  2458. Jul 02 20:08:43 <Tylzen> clients*
  2459. Jul 02 20:09:02 <Tylzen> "Hey you were suppose to get help from this person, who is no longer here.. And the company hasn't responded to us"
  2460. Jul 02 20:09:18 <picflute> That company tends to take a day to get responses.
  2461. Jul 02 20:09:29 <Tylzen> Which is still bad management.
  2462. Jul 02 20:09:40 <picflute> I find that better then how some mods operate on the site
  2463. Jul 02 20:09:55 <Tylzen> There are certian things that are priotized higher than others.
  2464. Jul 02 20:10:11 <snarkypants> people that mod for free arent a priority
  2465. Jul 02 20:10:26 <Tylzen> I am on the board of a national organisation, and I handle some of our communication.. And some regular mails I can let wait for a couple of hours or even some days..
  2466. Jul 02 20:10:42 <Tylzen> But if something in the organisation broke, or someone had to leave their post, I wouldn't fucking wait hours.
  2467. Jul 02 20:10:44 <picflute> Great, butlet's look at what we're dealing with here.
  2468. Jul 02 20:10:46 <Tylzen> I would be on the phone, to fix it.
  2469. Jul 02 20:11:01 <picflute> You're asking for contact information for people correct?
  2470. Jul 02 20:11:14 <SlyRatchet> Ivashkin true, but I think the fundamentals of both groups being a fairly tight nit organisation responding to a sort of public relations crisis. I think that means the time scales of response can be fairly similar
  2471. Jul 02 20:11:16 <Tylzen> IAMA breaking down is bad PR for Reddit.
  2472. Jul 02 20:11:25 <picflute> IAmA community didn't break down, the mods did.
  2473. Jul 02 20:11:35 <SlyRatchet> Are there any IAMA and AskReddit mods here?
  2474. Jul 02 20:11:58 <Tylzen> picflute, Have you read what Karmanaut wrote about what it meant to have Victoria removed?
  2475. Jul 02 20:12:15 <Tylzen> https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq204d <-- picflute
  2476. Jul 02 20:12:16 <gonzobot> (Tylzen) Why has R/Iama been set to private? : OutOfTheLoop - 2,031 comments, 5,602 points - chickenmagic, 7h ago
  2477. Jul 02 20:12:21 <picflute> I am well aware of what was said
  2478. Jul 02 20:12:42 <Ivashkin> SlyRatchet, we don't have meeting rooms, email, IM, conference call lines and day jobs specifically to deal with these problems
  2479. Jul 02 20:12:45 <picflute> But do you really think that it'sokay to shut down multiple sitesbecause ofit?
  2480. Jul 02 20:12:50 <Tylzen> And you still think it isn't a break down, if you remove an essential part of how IAMA works, and not having a backup ready.
  2481. Jul 02 20:12:55 <picflute> How many subs actively use Victoria and her free service?
  2482. Jul 02 20:12:56 <snarkypants> isnt that called a strike?
  2483. Jul 02 20:13:07 <snarkypants> its a moderator unofficial union strike
  2484. Jul 02 20:13:13 <picflute> Does every IAmA require her attention?
  2485. Jul 02 20:13:15 <Tylzen> picflute, The rest of the subs are sympathizing.
  2486. Jul 02 20:13:28 <kerovon> iama, /r/science, /r/books, /r/music all used her heavily that I know of
  2487. Jul 02 20:13:42 <kerovon> movies used her I believe
  2488. Jul 02 20:13:53 <Nesquik> she must feel so loved right now
  2489. Jul 02 20:13:54 <rya> man its been a long time since i saw karmanaut getting upvoted so much in his own acct
  2490. Jul 02 20:13:55 <teaearlgraycold> Books and music aren't down yet though
  2491. Jul 02 20:13:56 <snarkypants> its what happens when you employ thousands of people to curate your content and work for reddit gold and stickers
  2492. Jul 02 20:13:56 <SlyRatchet> Ivashkin, true, but we were in almost constant contact throughout that crisis, even if we didn't use Skype. The time it took for action to be had was based on our feelings of the crisis, not our ability to communicate or otherwise
  2493. Jul 02 20:13:58 <Tylzen> But I guess it is better to go back to Rampant IAMAs
  2494. Jul 02 20:14:08 <rya> soooooo lonnnnnngggggggggg
  2495. Jul 02 20:14:17 <SlyRatchet> snarkypants an official moderator's union would be an awesome idea though. I nominate myself
  2496. Jul 02 20:14:17 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Did you ever watch Rampant?
  2497. Jul 02 20:14:23 <picflute> Wow 1 bad AmA and hundreds that were fine withouther
  2498. Jul 02 20:14:28 <teaearlgraycold> SlyRatchet, let's do it
  2499. Jul 02 20:14:33 <Tylzen> SlyRatchet, Nominate yourself to be a union? :D
  2500. Jul 02 20:14:36 <picflute> And there were multiple ones that operated without her that did fine.
  2501. Jul 02 20:14:46 <Ivashkin> but it needs an old school union name
  2502. Jul 02 20:14:47 <Tylzen> o_O
  2503. Jul 02 20:14:53 <sarahbotts> the fuck did I miss
  2504. Jul 02 20:14:59 <snarkypants> we are forming a union
  2505. Jul 02 20:15:03 <teaearlgraycold> sarahbotts, lol
  2506. Jul 02 20:15:05 <SlyRatchet> Call me Moderator's Union now. You may petition to join me and be absorbed into my contiousness
  2507. Jul 02 20:15:06 <Tylzen> picflute, You cannot see the major difference in quality before Victoria to whilst she was there.
  2508. Jul 02 20:15:07 <teaearlgraycold> Join the party
  2509. Jul 02 20:15:22 <sarahbotts> teaearlgraycold come back and 4 mods are added and other shit is on fire
  2510. Jul 02 20:15:26 <Tylzen> sarahbotts, Victoria fired/let go, a lot of defaults have gone dark
  2511. Jul 02 20:15:29 <x_plus_popcorn> Local Mod 119th
  2512. Jul 02 20:15:31 <teaearlgraycold> sarahbotts, /r/history, /r/iama, /r/science, /r/gaming, /r/art, /r/askreddy, /r/circlejerk, /r/crappydesign all down
  2513. Jul 02 20:15:36 <sarahbotts> I HAVE ONLY BEEN ON VACATION FOR 2 DAYS
  2514. Jul 02 20:15:38 <snarkypants> lol crappydesign
  2515. Jul 02 20:15:38 <picflute> I see the difference, but I fail to see why her departure would honestly affect how a majority of those subreddit operate
  2516. Jul 02 20:15:39 <sarahbotts> wait really
  2517. Jul 02 20:15:43 <teaearlgraycold> Yes
  2518. Jul 02 20:15:46 <teaearlgraycold> !mdos askreddy
  2519. Jul 02 20:15:47 <sarahbotts> should I shut down documentaries for the lulz
  2520. Jul 02 20:15:49 <teaearlgraycold> !mdos askreddit
  2521. Jul 02 20:15:52 <andytuba> sarahbotts: yeah it just started around ... 8 hours ago
  2522. Jul 02 20:15:52 <teaearlgraycold> shit
  2523. Jul 02 20:15:54 <Tylzen> https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riama_set_to_private_over_mod_firing/ <-- sarahbotts
  2524. Jul 02 20:15:54 <teaearlgraycold> I suck
  2525. Jul 02 20:15:55 <gonzobot> (Tylzen) /r/IAmA set to private over mod firing : SubredditDrama - 1,946 comments, 3,470 points - eonOne, 5h ago
  2526. Jul 02 20:16:00 <teaearlgraycold> !mods askreddit
  2527. Jul 02 20:16:00 <redditBot> r/askreddit doesn't exist or is private
  2528. Jul 02 20:16:02 <xlnqeniuz> .flip sarahbotts
  2529. Jul 02 20:16:02 <gonzobot> ( ﾉ♉︵♉ ）ﾉ ︵ sʇʇoqɥɐɹɐs
  2530. Jul 02 20:16:06 <teaearlgraycold> !mods history
  2531. Jul 02 20:16:07 <redditBot> r/history doesn't exist or is private
  2532. Jul 02 20:16:10 <teaearlgraycold> !mods science
  2533. Jul 02 20:16:10 <redditBot> r/science doesn't exist or is private
  2534. Jul 02 20:16:13 <Tylzen> !mods modeltrains
  2535. Jul 02 20:16:13 <redditBot> r/modeltrains has 7 mods: snarkypants, Tylzen, fotbr, burnhearts, girlbrarian, SEO_Killer, and BotWatchman
  2536. Jul 02 20:16:18 <Ivashkin> picflute, I don't think this is about this specific incident, I think this is about a larger issue with the way Reddit operates
  2537. Jul 02 20:16:23 <andytuba> Tylzen: modeltrains? :p
  2538. Jul 02 20:16:23 <Tylzen> snarkypants, MODELTRAINS ARE STILL GOING CHOO CHOO
  2539. Jul 02 20:16:26 <snarkypants> lol!!
  2540. Jul 02 20:16:29 <Tylzen> andytuba, They are fucking awesome.
  2541. Jul 02 20:16:31 <xlnqeniuz> ./circlejerk is not private lol
  2542. Jul 02 20:16:34 <Ivashkin> this just brought the matter to a head
  2543. Jul 02 20:16:46 <picflute> circlejerk was private
  2544. Jul 02 20:16:48 <Tylzen> !mods circlejerk
  2545. Jul 02 20:16:48 <redditBot> r/circlejerk doesn't exist or is private
  2546. Jul 02 20:16:51 <picflute> it is private
  2547. Jul 02 20:16:52 <Tylzen> Still is
  2548. Jul 02 20:16:53 <xlnqeniuz> ..
  2549. Jul 02 20:16:54 <xlnqeniuz> oh
  2550. Jul 02 20:16:55 <xlnqeniuz> wtf
  2551. Jul 02 20:16:57 <picflute> dumbo
  2552. Jul 02 20:17:02 <xlnqeniuz> nvm
  2553. Jul 02 20:17:05 <xlnqeniuz> approved submitter
  2554. Jul 02 20:17:08 <xlnqeniuz> CARRY ON EATING POPCORN
  2555. Jul 02 20:17:10 <Tylzen> picflute, Is your username phallic?
  2556. Jul 02 20:17:10 <xlnqeniuz> NOTHING HAPPENd
  2557. Jul 02 20:17:11 <kerovon> Circlejerk was private on their "summer vacation" before the shutdown. THey just changed their message.
  2558. Jul 02 20:17:11 <Nesquik> n00b
  2559. Jul 02 20:17:17 <picflute> lol what
  2560. Jul 02 20:17:29 <picflute> My ID is the same here
  2561. Jul 02 20:17:31 <Tylzen> picflute, Because pic sounds like dick in Danish, and flûte is like a small baguette.
  2562. Jul 02 20:17:39 <Tylzen> picflute, I keep reading your name like Dick Baguette.
  2563. Jul 02 20:17:42 <Tylzen> Rather distracting.
  2564. Jul 02 20:17:42 <coloicito> The Victorian Era is starting
  2565. Jul 02 20:17:43 <picflute> Piccolo + Flute
  2566. Jul 02 20:17:44 <x_plus_popcorn> askreddit going private surprises me
  2567. Jul 02 20:17:48 <sarahbotts> what the fuck
  2568. Jul 02 20:17:49 <picflute> PicFlute.
  2569. Jul 02 20:17:52 <x_plus_popcorn> victoria's secret subs
  2570. Jul 02 20:17:53 <sarahbotts> where is the pizza gif
  2571. Jul 02 20:17:56 <Tylzen> I prefer DickBaguette <3
  2572. Jul 02 20:18:00 <picflute> Cool
  2573. Jul 02 20:18:06 <sarahbotts> .gis walking into the room with pizza and everything is on fire gif
  2574. Jul 02 20:18:06 <gonzobot> (sarahbotts) http://38.media.tumblr.com/6228573587d4ec5b83d10d8453176ee6/tumblr_mxwyznfaxF1rbjoeao1_400.gif
  2575. Jul 02 20:18:15 <SlyRatchet> Guys, I'm gonna try and write up a list. What are some grievances you have with the admins that you'd like addressed relating to this issue?
  2576. Jul 02 20:18:39 <XenoBen> sarahbotts: priv lol
  2577. Jul 02 20:18:50 <sarahbotts> huh?
  2578. Jul 02 20:18:50 <picflute> kill modmail and change it to something else
  2579. Jul 02 20:18:54 <x_plus_popcorn> new search page fucking sucks
  2580. Jul 02 20:18:55 <sarahbotts> >We get that losing Victoria has a significant impact on the way you manage your community. I'd really like to understand how we can help solve these problems, because I know r/IAMA thrived before her and will thrive after.
  2581. Jul 02 20:18:57 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: Modmail.
  2582. Jul 02 20:19:05 <sarahbotts> that comment though
  2583. Jul 02 20:19:12 <Tylzen> sarahbotts, Yup, from Alexis :D
  2584. Jul 02 20:19:14 <blueshiftlabs> Make modmail not suck every ass in the Western Hemisphere
  2585. Jul 02 20:19:17 <Ivashkin> modmail, shitty mod tools, not enough admin level help when needed
  2586. Jul 02 20:19:19 <x_plus_popcorn> I want redditmade back
  2587. Jul 02 20:19:23 <Tylzen> sarahbotts, We will do fine, they created ama@reddit.com :D
  2588. Jul 02 20:19:27 <picflute> Actually I'dlike it if we could downloada full archive of modmail
  2589. Jul 02 20:19:38 <SlyRatchet> So, I think the message I'm getting here is, we don't like mod mail, right? xP
  2590. Jul 02 20:19:46 <Locutus> ^
  2591. Jul 02 20:20:15 <Ivashkin> you need modtools to even begin to make it usable
  2592. Jul 02 20:20:16 <sarahbotts> how long goes it take to rework modmail if they have a dedicated engineer for it though
  2593. Jul 02 20:20:17 <picflute> If they offered an archive download I'd suck it up and use it forver
  2594. Jul 02 20:20:17 <alienth> july 4th festivities starting early, i see
  2595. Jul 02 20:20:30 * sarahbotts throws alienth a beer
  2596. Jul 02 20:20:33 <x316nuts> I started drinking
  2597. Jul 02 20:20:35 <x316nuts> So
  2598. Jul 02 20:20:37 <x_plus_popcorn> you know, obama did an ama once
  2599. Jul 02 20:20:38 <joyouscacophony> You just finding all this out alienth?
  2600. Jul 02 20:20:38 <Tylzen> Does anyone have the IAMA app on their phones? What does it do now?
  2601. Jul 02 20:20:40 <x_plus_popcorn> THANKS OBAMA
  2602. Jul 02 20:20:47 <x_plus_popcorn> Tylzen: it just hangs while loading
  2603. Jul 02 20:20:47 <alienth> joyouscacophony: nah, i've been watching it from a distance.
  2604. Jul 02 20:20:50 <multi-mod> In the morning I take a shower and get dressed in a suit before I sit down to moderate each day. All I'm asking for is complementary warm hand towels and champaign to make my day brighter.
  2605. Jul 02 20:20:50 <SlyRatchet> if we could quickly load the entire mod mail page then we could just use alt F, but we can't EVEN do taht
  2606. Jul 02 20:20:51 <joyouscacophony> beer of choice x316nuts
  2607. Jul 02 20:20:52 <alienth> Tylzen: it shows nothing
  2608. Jul 02 20:20:56 <Locutus> But, eh. 1) Perhaps hiring some more community managers, and 2) Better mod tools - we shouldn't have to rely on a forest of extensions to run a large sub.
  2609. Jul 02 20:21:02 <Tylzen> Not even the private message.
  2610. Jul 02 20:21:08 <sarahbotts> I thought there were more community managers hired, just silently
  2611. Jul 02 20:21:17 <x316nuts> Chocolate rain. When in doubt drink a 19% beer
  2612. Jul 02 20:21:18 <sarahbotts> was there an announcement for lordvinyl and others?
  2613. Jul 02 20:21:20 <sarahbotts> I don't remember seeing one
  2614. Jul 02 20:21:33 <joyouscacophony> I may dive into my cellard w00tstout tonight
  2615. Jul 02 20:21:43 <joyouscacophony> It seems to be a good night for it
  2616. Jul 02 20:21:50 <x316nuts> That's a good beer for sure. Third batch us coming out now
  2617. Jul 02 20:21:52 <picflute> Man I feel bad for that dude,
  2618. Jul 02 20:22:00 <joyouscacophony> I missed the 2nd
  2619. Jul 02 20:22:09 <x_plus_popcorn> I mean, they didn't design the app with it loading a private sub in mind
  2620. Jul 02 20:22:10 <picflute> SRC literally has a hate boner for him
  2621. Jul 02 20:22:16 <x_plus_popcorn> i'm surprised it even honors the private setting
  2622. Jul 02 20:22:32 <alienth> x_plus_popcorn: if it didn't then anyone could get around the private setting via API
  2623. Jul 02 20:22:38 <gilgamesh> https://voat.co/v/announcements/comments/194043
  2624. Jul 02 20:22:39 <alienth> since the iama app just consumes the API
  2625. Jul 02 20:22:45 <x_plus_popcorn> I should rephrase that
  2626. Jul 02 20:22:55 <x_plus_popcorn> I'm pleasantly surprised it doesn't use some weird hack
  2627. Jul 02 20:23:08 <picflute> LOL gilgamesh
  2628. Jul 02 20:23:19 <Tylzen> https://twitter.com/edfrenkel/status/616762107560787968 <-- lol :D
  2629. Jul 02 20:23:19 <gonzobot> (Tylzen) @edfrenkel (Edward Frenkel): .@ShittyAskSci That's what I want to know. So far, no explanation and no apology from @reddit_AMA. This is uncool and unprofessional at best (7 minutes and 45 seconds ago)
  2630. Jul 02 20:23:44 <Tylzen> Someone should tell him to email ama@reddit.com :D
  2631. Jul 02 20:24:02 <x_plus_popcorn> lol
  2632. Jul 02 20:24:40 <x_plus_popcorn> This is even better than fph
  2633. Jul 02 20:24:53 <multi-mod> please email AMA@reddit.com so you can have the pelasure of being promtly ignored
  2634. Jul 02 20:24:58 <foxes> Kek
  2635. Jul 02 20:25:08 <joyouscacophony> It'll get better if more defaults shutter up x_plus_popcorn
  2636. Jul 02 20:25:11 <Tylzen> multi-mod, I like that.. Self-inflicted silent treatment.
  2637. Jul 02 20:25:26 <picflute> You also seem to prefer complaining about it more then finding a solution yourself
  2638. Jul 02 20:25:29 <x_plus_popcorn> email and ask why iama is closed
  2639. Jul 02 20:25:37 <multi-mod> alienth, where are you in reddit's time of need?
  2640. Jul 02 20:25:42 <Tylzen> What kind of solution could I possible find :D
  2641. Jul 02 20:25:49 <x_plus_popcorn> stackexchange
  2642. Jul 02 20:25:58 <picflute> None because you've made it clear you're incapable of finding one out yourself.
  2643. Jul 02 20:26:03 <Tylzen> a
  2644. Jul 02 20:26:05 <Tylzen> Hah
  2645. Jul 02 20:26:09 <alienth> multi-mod: i've got new things to worry about nowadays.
  2646. Jul 02 20:26:18 <Tylzen> But seriously, you think we can find a solution to this? :D
  2647. Jul 02 20:26:22 <sarahbotts> how's working at stack exchaange?
  2648. Jul 02 20:26:30 <sarahbotts> s/exchaange/exchange
  2649. Jul 02 20:26:31 <gonzobot> Correction, <sarahbotts> how's working at stack exchange?
  2650. Jul 02 20:26:36 <Tylzen> I cannot fix how the heads of Reddit run their company.
  2651. Jul 02 20:26:50 <multi-mod> he's working at stack exchange, but redditing all day
  2652. Jul 02 20:26:50 <picflute> You can fix the situation with AmA's and attempt to contact them directly.
  2653. Jul 02 20:26:51 <joyouscacophony> alienth: Stealth Voat agent!
  2654. Jul 02 20:26:52 <alienth> been going well :) just got back from denver where we setup a new cage at a DC
  2655. Jul 02 20:26:54 <snarkypants> well the solution would be to simply reopen the subs, and whenever somebody wants to schedule an AMA, send them to the admin contact link.
  2656. Jul 02 20:27:13 <x_plus_popcorn> https://i.imgur.com/GVFbI3L.webm
  2657. Jul 02 20:27:22 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Yeah, but he asked me to find a solution, and I cannot reopen any of those subreddits :D
  2658. Jul 02 20:27:34 <snarkypants> lol
  2659. Jul 02 20:27:37 <rya> do we have a mod union ?
  2660. Jul 02 20:27:43 <rya> it wud be fun
  2661. Jul 02 20:27:43 <alienth> this type of situation has no 'solution'. it only has an outcome.
  2662. Jul 02 20:27:55 <alienth> the outcome remains to be seen. i can't iamgine it being positive, tho.
  2663. Jul 02 20:27:55 <Tylzen> #modtalk is the closest we have to a union :D
  2664. Jul 02 20:28:03 <rya> oh i c u r back in the reigns alienth
  2665. Jul 02 20:28:04 <rya> haha
  2666. Jul 02 20:28:07 <greenduch> jeepers its alienth
  2667. Jul 02 20:28:07 <JustPassingThrough> hey any new subs go down?
  2668. Jul 02 20:28:11 <JustPassingThrough> hi alienth
  2669. Jul 02 20:28:16 <alienth> ello ello
  2670. Jul 02 20:28:33 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, I'm really worried this is just going to make the walls between mods and admins taller
  2671. Jul 02 20:28:39 <greenduch> what sort of outcome do you forsee, wise alienth ?
  2672. Jul 02 20:28:44 <rya> any thoughts on the new developments alienth ? i c everyone is playing the private hide and seek game
  2673. Jul 02 20:28:46 <teaearlgraycold> Everyone will end up more and more salty
  2674. Jul 02 20:28:52 <snarkypants> making the subs private doesnt really help
  2675. Jul 02 20:28:58 <picflute> Or forget about it after a week and not care
  2676. Jul 02 20:29:16 <blueshiftlabs> teaearlgraycold: too late for that, everyone's already saltier than Lot's wife
  2677. Jul 02 20:29:21 <alienth> greenduch: wellllll, i don't think anything that reddit can do or promise is going to make the mods who feel like they're being ignored feel better.
  2678. Jul 02 20:29:26 <Piemonkey> so
  2679. Jul 02 20:29:29 <Locutus> What do the subs in question actually want to see as a result, in concrete terms? Some codified requests would help clarify things.
  2680. Jul 02 20:29:29 <Piemonkey> i just got home
  2681. Jul 02 20:29:29 <weeedbot> I do not support this request.
  2682. Jul 02 20:29:31 <Piemonkey> finished dinner
  2683. Jul 02 20:29:34 <x316nuts> Man my fucking inbox
  2684. Jul 02 20:29:36 <Piemonkey> and noticed about a dozen modmails
  2685. Jul 02 20:29:41 <Piemonkey> asking if we're going to go private
  2686. Jul 02 20:29:42 <Piemonkey> wat
  2687. Jul 02 20:29:46 <Respectfullyyours> lol
  2688. Jul 02 20:29:48 <sarahbotts> !mods x316nits
  2689. Jul 02 20:29:49 <redditBot> r/x316nits has 0 mods:
  2690. Jul 02 20:29:52 <multi-mod> welp, the admins managed to make a country go private
  2691. Jul 02 20:29:53 <teaearlgraycold> I can think of a couple things that'd help
  2692. Jul 02 20:29:56 <sarahbotts> I can't spell, dammit
  2693. Jul 02 20:29:59 <rya> well thats always alienth
  2694. Jul 02 20:30:00 <rya> haha
  2695. Jul 02 20:30:00 <SlyRatchet> qIR
  2696. Jul 02 20:30:03 <SlyRatchet> wot
  2697. Jul 02 20:30:06 <sarahbotts> Oh yeah, we've gotten them in a bunch of my subs
  2698. Jul 02 20:30:07 <x316nuts> !mods 316cats
  2699. Jul 02 20:30:07 <redditBot> r/316cats has 8 mods: 316nuts, A_Cylon_Raider, stopscopiesme, cupcake1713, lolsail, redtaboo, familynight, and statball
  2700. Jul 02 20:30:08 <sarahbotts> .flip allthefoxes
  2701. Jul 02 20:30:08 <gonzobot> ( ﾉ♉︵♉ ）ﾉ ︵ sǝxoɟǝɥʇןןɐ
  2702. Jul 02 20:30:12 <alienth> so, i suspect the subreddits will stay private until cooler heads prevail, or until the community pendulum swigns against the mods and they resign out of exasperation. (at least in some cases)
  2703. Jul 02 20:30:12 <x316nuts> Yis
  2704. Jul 02 20:30:16 <Tylzen> snarkypants, It would make reddit less desirable, and generate less traffic and less money, which the heads of Reddit understand :D
  2705. Jul 02 20:30:18 <gilgamesh> .flip sarahbutts
  2706. Jul 02 20:30:19 <gonzobot> (╯°□°）╯ ︵ sʇʇnqɥɐɹɐs
  2707. Jul 02 20:30:26 <rya> i m thinking of joining this protest by privating r/rya11111
  2708. Jul 02 20:30:28 * sarahbotts bite gilgamesh
  2709. Jul 02 20:30:29 <rya> anyone with me ?
  2710. Jul 02 20:30:29 <Tylzen> !mods horses
  2711. Jul 02 20:30:29 <redditBot> r/horses has 5 mods: naphthoylindole, BrittanyGhoul, jasmin356, AtomicPenny, and BotWatchman
  2712. Jul 02 20:30:33 <sarahbotts> hatechu
  2713. Jul 02 20:30:36 <alienth> maybe indefinitely in some cases, or until they come up for grabs by /r/redditrequest.
  2714. Jul 02 20:30:40 <snarkypants> reddit can just designate different subs as defaults
  2715. Jul 02 20:30:51 <Locutus> Including IAmA?
  2716. Jul 02 20:30:52 <SlyRatchet> a country subreddit went private???
  2717. Jul 02 20:30:54 <Locutus> That's awkward
  2718. Jul 02 20:30:55 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Sure, but still hard to make them as popular.
  2719. Jul 02 20:30:56 <alienth> snarkypants: iama is a bit tricky on that.
  2720. Jul 02 20:30:57 <picflute> wait which
  2721. Jul 02 20:30:59 * gilgamesh ouch
  2722. Jul 02 20:31:00 <rya> lol spain
  2723. Jul 02 20:31:05 <x_plus_popcorn> rya: i privated /r/x_minus_one
  2724. Jul 02 20:31:08 <picflute> o7
  2725. Jul 02 20:31:08 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Also IAMA has an official app :D
  2726. Jul 02 20:31:09 <rya> haha
  2727. Jul 02 20:31:10 <alienth> snarkypants: gaming as well. there is so much history that is linked to which is now inaccessible.
  2728. Jul 02 20:31:12 <Obliviater> God too much drama today
  2729. Jul 02 20:31:14 <rya> gud gud x_plus_popcorn
  2730. Jul 02 20:31:14 <sarahbotts> can you reddit request private subs with active mods though?
  2731. Jul 02 20:31:17 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, if there was some kind of delivered update on modmail I suppose some of the subs would open up immediately
  2732. Jul 02 20:31:18 <Tylzen> snarkypants, Can we apply to make Modeltrains a default :D
  2733. Jul 02 20:31:21 <snarkypants> sure
  2734. Jul 02 20:31:24 <Tylzen> Woohoo
  2735. Jul 02 20:31:26 <gilgamesh> sarahbotts> can you reddit request private subs with active mods though? no
  2736. Jul 02 20:31:33 <SlyRatchet> sarahbotts you can request it, but they won't grant your request ;P
  2737. Jul 02 20:31:39 <SlyRatchet> it's a private sub, not an inactive one
  2738. Jul 02 20:31:39 <rya> yea i dont think u can request them
  2739. Jul 02 20:31:39 <snarkypants> also I gave /u/noeatnosleep /r/askmeanything
  2740. Jul 02 20:31:54 <rya> only if the mods r inactive
  2741. Jul 02 20:31:56 <Tylzen> I should mail ama@reddit.com "Dear Reddit, since IAMA is private, can you please make r/modeltrains a default instead.. We don't need any help from you."
  2742. Jul 02 20:32:06 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: maybe, but I don't think there is much of an update to provide on modmail.
  2743. Jul 02 20:32:19 <alienth> so i'm doubtful that will happen
  2744. Jul 02 20:32:20 <SlyRatchet> hahaha
  2745. Jul 02 20:32:25 <picflute> Can't you just scrap the whole system and introduce something similar to reddit live with it?
  2746. Jul 02 20:32:32 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, are you saying you think it doesn't need much improvement? or that it's too bad to fix
  2747. Jul 02 20:32:55 <rya> https://www.reddit.com/r/BooU/
  2748. Jul 02 20:32:56 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: no no, i'm saying that it eneds a huge amount of improvemenmt, which has been said many, many times. saying it again won't calm anyone down.
  2749. Jul 02 20:33:01 <EvilNight> god damn it I knew this was going to snowball this morning
  2750. Jul 02 20:33:03 <rya> for booing admins!
  2751. Jul 02 20:33:17 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, that's why I said code needs to be shipped
  2752. Jul 02 20:33:48 <alienth> yeah, gotta get someone to work on it first. (i'm not sure if anyone is)
  2753. Jul 02 20:33:53 <EvilNight> admins, kindly remind corporate that the mods wrote and control most of the bots that keep these places running, so if they are thinking of reaching for the banhammer, think twice
  2754. Jul 02 20:33:56 <teaearlgraycold> Something - at least make modmail chains threaded and allow for the remove button to actually do something
  2755. Jul 02 20:34:02 <teaearlgraycold> Threading is just a bit of JS
  2756. Jul 02 20:34:23 <multi-mod> I sort of started in the lets wait and see camp this morning.. I think kn0thing was really the reason I switched so quickly.
  2757. Jul 02 20:34:24 <rya> do u think the admins even noticed all the defaults privatized ?
  2758. Jul 02 20:34:25 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, I've been wondering if the lack of dev. on modmail was a monetary issue
  2759. Jul 02 20:34:44 <multi-mod> rya, I think KK noticed, which is why she noped out of chat before
  2760. Jul 02 20:34:49 <rya> lol
  2761. Jul 02 20:34:51 <x_plus_popcorn> This is truly a great time to be alive.
  2762. Jul 02 20:34:52 <greenduch> no its lack of management
  2763. Jul 02 20:35:02 <snarkypants> it is a lack of funds
  2764. Jul 02 20:35:05 <rya> i feel bad for KK :(
  2765. Jul 02 20:35:09 <snarkypants> they need more venture capital injected
  2766. Jul 02 20:35:15 <multi-mod> btw, in before #modtalk leak
  2767. Jul 02 20:35:23 <rya> i cud inject it too
  2768. Jul 02 20:35:25 <rya> .lenny
  2769. Jul 02 20:35:25 <alienth> rya: they absolutely know
  2770. Jul 02 20:35:25 <gonzobot> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡ °)
  2771. Jul 02 20:35:30 <picflute> goldf1sh came back
  2772. Jul 02 20:35:30 <rya> oh
  2773. Jul 02 20:35:36 <rya> well thats gud
  2774. Jul 02 20:35:37 <picflute> WalkingDeadFish
  2775. Jul 02 20:35:47 <x_plus_popcorn> lol
  2776. Jul 02 20:35:59 <SlyRatchet> Someone must have realised something is up by *now
  2777. Jul 02 20:36:09 <Locutus> Even integrating some stuff like Toolbox a bit better would be a huge help, generally.
  2778. Jul 02 20:36:13 <rya> i think the admins will be saying "this is the internet .. it will be back to normal by tmw"
  2779. Jul 02 20:36:14 <SlyRatchet> Also, can you guys access this link? It's the list of demands so far https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AmZVV7i0aWfDnzyrFlPVBRpl5SUojlhUvb5COElZIYU/edit?usp=sharing
  2780. Jul 02 20:36:27 <multi-mod> nice try doxxer
  2781. Jul 02 20:36:28 <rya> and i think dey r right
  2782. Jul 02 20:36:36 <rya> aw
  2783. Jul 02 20:36:41 <multi-mod> dawww, poor KK
  2784. Jul 02 20:36:45 <multi-mod> don't hate us :(
  2785. Jul 02 20:36:48 <SlyRatchet> requests*
  2786. Jul 02 20:36:49 <picflute> F
  2787. Jul 02 20:37:05 <x316nuts> I love Krispy
  2788. Jul 02 20:37:17 <snarkypants> lol they are not going t give mods access to ip information to determine sockuppetry, this isn't wikipedia
  2789. Jul 02 20:37:19 <sarahbotts> lol modtalk, home of the mod bitching
  2790. Jul 02 20:37:22 <sarahbotts> :P
  2791. Jul 02 20:37:23 <teaearlgraycold> I feel like if reddit took more pull requests this wouldnt' be such a big issue
  2792. Jul 02 20:37:40 <teaearlgraycold> snarkypants, they can give IP has info
  2793. Jul 02 20:37:41 <picflute> Damn
  2794. Jul 02 20:37:45 <teaearlgraycold> hash*
  2795. Jul 02 20:37:50 <picflute> What the fuck is going to happen to SubredditSimulator
  2796. Jul 02 20:37:51 <snarkypants> its a vilatin of privacy, they are not
  2797. Jul 02 20:37:51 <SlyRatchet> I mention in the same bullet point that there are other things they could do
  2798. Jul 02 20:37:52 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: nope, you can't. becauuuse.
  2799. Jul 02 20:37:53 <alienth> ipv32
  2800. Jul 02 20:37:56 <alienth> err
  2801. Jul 02 20:37:56 <snarkypants> *violation
  2802. Jul 02 20:37:56 <alienth> ipv4
  2803. Jul 02 20:38:03 <alienth> ip hashing isn't viable
  2804. Jul 02 20:38:06 <teaearlgraycold> alienth?
  2805. Jul 02 20:38:07 <alienth> due to the small address space
  2806. Jul 02 20:38:11 <xlnqeniuz> k
  2807. Jul 02 20:38:18 <snarkypants> an employee can have access to it, but an employee isn't going to hand it out to a mod or another user
  2808. Jul 02 20:38:19 <xlnqeniuz> ./r/videos private aswell
  2809. Jul 02 20:38:22 <xlnqeniuz> how many do we have to go?
  2810. Jul 02 20:38:23 <coloicito> really?
  2811. Jul 02 20:38:24 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, hash the IP + salth with subreddit specific info
  2812. Jul 02 20:38:26 <xlnqeniuz> ya
  2813. Jul 02 20:38:27 <kerovon> modmail from reporters. How wonderful.
  2814. Jul 02 20:38:33 <teaearlgraycold> Stuff we can't see
  2815. Jul 02 20:38:40 <snarkypants> or just hire more employees to handle that kind of activity
  2816. Jul 02 20:38:52 <snarkypants> but to hire more employees they need more money
  2817. Jul 02 20:38:53 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: that'd require a modification to the privacy policy.
  2818. Jul 02 20:38:54 <picflute> Journlalists should be forced to through basic behavior training
  2819. Jul 02 20:39:02 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: which would need to be presented to the community
  2820. Jul 02 20:39:09 <blueshiftlabs> I like the sub-specific salted hash idea
  2821. Jul 02 20:39:10 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: i'd say good luck getting the community to swallow that one :/
  2822. Jul 02 20:39:14 <x_plus_popcorn> imagine the butthurt
  2823. Jul 02 20:39:15 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, I'm sure - just an idea I've been tossing around with other mods
  2824. Jul 02 20:39:16 <rya> ahaha
  2825. Jul 02 20:39:16 <snarkypants> so they need to get better at selling advertising, or get more investors
  2826. Jul 02 20:39:19 <rya> a live thread
  2827. Jul 02 20:39:20 <rya> https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bxm5v/reddit_live_thread_for_amageddon_pm_or_reply_if/
  2828. Jul 02 20:39:20 <gonzobot> (rya) Reddit Live Thread for AMAgeddon (PM or reply if you want to add... : SubredditDrama - 19 comments, 29 points - justcool393, 27m ago
  2829. Jul 02 20:39:23 <rya> this is great
  2830. Jul 02 20:39:24 <kerovon> Honestly, after looking at where this person writes, I'm thinking that the DailyDot would be more reputable.
  2831. Jul 02 20:39:27 <SlyRatchet> sub specific salted hash idea?..
  2832. Jul 02 20:39:40 <picflute> DD Reputable?
  2833. Jul 02 20:39:45 <picflute> Which section?
  2834. Jul 02 20:39:46 <blueshiftlabs> for giving mods access to IP addrs
  2835. Jul 02 20:39:54 <snarkypants> thats private information though
  2836. Jul 02 20:39:55 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, if it's subreddit or even thread specific then it's not so dangerous IMO.
  2837. Jul 02 20:40:00 <snarkypants> its not going to happen
  2838. Jul 02 20:40:02 <NumberTwoFan> krispy couldn't handle us
  2839. Jul 02 20:40:19 <kerovon> Compared to this "journalists" website? Their top story is "Forget Kim K: Each of these 31 girls have a better butt"
  2840. Jul 02 20:40:27 <XenoBen> there goes videos
  2841. Jul 02 20:40:29 <x316nuts> Okay
  2842. Jul 02 20:40:30 <teaearlgraycold> snarkypants, it's not info - it's just pseudo-randomness based off of the IP in some way
  2843. Jul 02 20:40:31 <NumberTwoFan> we need alienth to make an announcement post to calm us all down
  2844. Jul 02 20:40:39 <blueshiftlabs> snarkypants: properly implemeneted, all you could do with it
  2845. Jul 02 20:40:43 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: dangerous or not, it is a significant change regarding how the company handles private user info. giving non-employees teh ability to determine what accounts share the same IP requires some thought on privacy.
  2846. Jul 02 20:40:44 <snarkypants> sockpuppetry isn't against the rules
  2847. Jul 02 20:40:45 <x316nuts> So which out of the loop mod to I bribe to have flair mention /r/316cats
  2848. Jul 02 20:40:48 <Locutus> XenoBen: I think the site's net comment quality just improved a bit.
  2849. Jul 02 20:40:58 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: not saying it isn't worth considering, but it is certainly not trivial
  2850. Jul 02 20:41:16 <SlyRatchet> Ok I am changing the IP request thing to something more vague.
  2851. Jul 02 20:41:18 <alienth> NumberTwoFan: i no longer work there, so i'm kinda unable to help out
  2852. Jul 02 20:41:30 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, I can appreciate that. But there is precedence in this matter. IRC gives out that information (hashed IPs), different forum software does the same
  2853. Jul 02 20:41:31 <SlyRatchet> Don't forget you can leave comments on the doc itself
  2854. Jul 02 20:41:35 <snarkypants> noeatnosleep|shop, you need to get /r/askmeanything going
  2855. Jul 02 20:41:39 <NumberTwoFan> should have made yourself an approved submitter before you left
  2856. Jul 02 20:41:39 <XenoBen> recently, reddit is going down a v steep sloap
  2857. Jul 02 20:41:49 <x_plus_popcorn> how about automatically spamfilter stuff from a banned user's blatant alt?
  2858. Jul 02 20:41:54 <XenoBen> SlyRatchet: whats happening?
  2859. Jul 02 20:41:57 <Ivashkin> I want a ban function that bans the IP without us having to see it
  2860. Jul 02 20:42:11 <blueshiftlabs> ^
  2861. Jul 02 20:42:14 <SlyRatchet> XenoBen I'm making a list of requests from the moderators to the admins https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AmZVV7i0aWfDnzyrFlPVBRpl5SUojlhUvb5COElZIYU/edit?usp=sharing
  2862. Jul 02 20:42:16 <blueshiftlabs> that alone would be useful
  2863. Jul 02 20:42:24 <Ivashkin> no more people saying "I have 20 accounts, you banned number 3"
  2864. Jul 02 20:42:25 <XenoBen> ah ok
  2865. Jul 02 20:42:35 <blueshiftlabs> I have massive issues with ban evasion
  2866. Jul 02 20:42:36 <alienth> Ivashkin: IP banning tends to not work well on reddit. like.. it works OK.. but it is insanely easy to work around for most people. also, a lot of folks are coming from dorm rooms, or behind LSN where 10,000 people share the same IP.
  2867. Jul 02 20:42:53 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, large universities don't NAT
  2868. Jul 02 20:43:01 <teaearlgraycold> Neither of the two near me do
  2869. Jul 02 20:43:07 <INeedAnswers123> r/videos went private btw
  2870. Jul 02 20:43:09 <Ivashkin> I know, on a php forum I restorted to browser fingerprinting
  2871. Jul 02 20:43:12 <x_plus_popcorn> https://www.dan.me.uk/tornodes
  2872. Jul 02 20:43:14 <teaearlgraycold> It's way easier to blame someone for torrenting without NATing
  2873. Jul 02 20:43:18 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: i ran into plenty that did while i was at reddit, because we'd limit one IP and an entire university would be emailing us.
  2874. Jul 02 20:43:25 <XenoBen> my entire accommodation block all came out 1 ip
  2875. Jul 02 20:43:28 <Ivashkin> pain in the ass, but Apache wouldn't even serve certain users a 404
  2876. Jul 02 20:43:28 <alienth> often because some student tried scraping us
  2877. Jul 02 20:43:37 <Locutus> Even fingerprinting can be got around trivially. So awkward.
  2878. Jul 02 20:43:45 <gilgamesh> Obliviater, please redirect all /r/videos traffic to /r/video
  2879. Jul 02 20:43:45 <x_plus_popcorn> .mods videos
  2880. Jul 02 20:43:45 <gonzobot> (x_plus_popcorn) Sorry r/videos is set to private and I cannot access it.
  2881. Jul 02 20:43:56 <Obliviater> Wtf
  2882. Jul 02 20:43:58 <Obliviater> I didn't vote
  2883. Jul 02 20:44:00 <Obliviater> wtf
  2884. Jul 02 20:44:05 <x316nuts> Too late
  2885. Jul 02 20:44:05 <GuitarFreak> I didn't even see a vote
  2886. Jul 02 20:44:05 <noeatnosleep|shop> Ok, snarkypants
  2887. Jul 02 20:44:06 <Obliviater> seriously
  2888. Jul 02 20:44:07 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, I'd assume smaller ones - like less than 4k. Interesting to hear that though
  2889. Jul 02 20:44:09 <EvilNight> lol
  2890. Jul 02 20:44:09 <noeatnosleep|shop> Will soon
  2891. Jul 02 20:44:10 <XenoBen> overruied i guess
  2892. Jul 02 20:44:12 <Obliviater> wtf is this
  2893. Jul 02 20:44:17 <Obliviater> This isn't cool
  2894. Jul 02 20:44:31 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: anyways, don't let me dissuade you from thinking of these things. just trying to provide context on reddit's POV regarding those things.
  2895. Jul 02 20:44:34 <x316nuts> Hey when this leaks eventually to paste bin please subscribe to /r/316cats
  2896. Jul 02 20:44:40 <x316nuts> Thank you
  2897. Jul 02 20:44:45 <snarkypants> also /r/modeltrains
  2898. Jul 02 20:44:56 <Kreius> and /r/shittyshowerthoughts thx
  2899. Jul 02 20:45:03 <Obliviater> @guitarfreak may I speak to you in a DM over irc?
  2900. Jul 02 20:45:04 <XenoBen> and dont forget to check out my meme collection
  2901. Jul 02 20:45:08 <picflute> im waiting for r/funny to shut down
  2902. Jul 02 20:45:17 <XenoBen> i want funny and pics
  2903. Jul 02 20:45:20 <XenoBen> to clear frontpage
  2904. Jul 02 20:45:25 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, thanks. But do these ideas even have a slight chance at fruition? It's one thing to hear that they're not horrible and worth some thought. Another entirely to see it leave IRC or /r/defaultmods even for a second
  2905. Jul 02 20:45:25 <x316nuts> I voted no in pics
  2906. Jul 02 20:45:28 <joyouscacophony> Like they'd do anything to benefit the site
  2907. Jul 02 20:45:38 <x316nuts> You whiny fucks
  2908. Jul 02 20:45:44 <joyouscacophony> :)
  2909. Jul 02 20:45:49 <XenoBen> pics, funny and aa. frontpage will be epic.
  2910. Jul 02 20:46:00 <joyouscacophony> There'd be nothing left
  2911. Jul 02 20:46:07 <x316nuts> Sure they make alllll of their employees move to sf and no one cares about that
  2912. Jul 02 20:46:14 <snarkypants> i think reddit should just hire more staff that is responsible for curating content and managing default subs
  2913. Jul 02 20:46:17 <SlyRatchet> When this leaks: Hi mum!
  2914. Jul 02 20:46:23 <alienth> teaearlgraycold: not being there anymore I can't say for certain. i can say that anything which may involve the privacy of users is going to have to be presented to the community as a whole, which is an extremely difficult sell (as i'm sure you're aware)
  2915. Jul 02 20:46:24 <Relic2279> Videos goes dark
  2916. Jul 02 20:46:24 <x316nuts> Sure we leak nude celebs and no one cares
  2917. Jul 02 20:46:35 <snarkypants> the world cared about that
  2918. Jul 02 20:46:37 <x316nuts> No one cares about jailbait back in the day
  2919. Jul 02 20:46:54 <snarkypants> remember when they sub used to show up on google?
  2920. Jul 02 20:46:57 <SlyRatchet> Regarding site funding: I'd recommend that the admins just introduce advertising. The amount of money they could rise from targets adds would rival YouTube on a per add basis
  2921. Jul 02 20:47:05 <SlyRatchet> per view** basis
  2922. Jul 02 20:47:08 <x316nuts> no one cares about coon town, sex with dogs etc
  2923. Jul 02 20:47:14 <x316nuts> But we're drawing the line here
  2924. Jul 02 20:47:16 <Ivashkin> alienth, we don't have to see user info, even something like flagging alts to mods in threads would help
  2925. Jul 02 20:47:18 <alienth> SlyRatchet: reddit has advertising
  2926. Jul 02 20:47:19 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, I could try to work my way in from the inside. Pose as a recently graduated CS student - but really, I'm a mod looking for revenge
  2927. Jul 02 20:47:20 <x316nuts> K
  2928. Jul 02 20:47:37 <picflute> fuck
  2929. Jul 02 20:47:38 <Ivashkin> just something we can see that says dude 3, 9 and 43 are using the same IP
  2930. Jul 02 20:47:39 <alienth> SlyRatchet: that is one of the main revenue streams of reddit, in fact
  2931. Jul 02 20:47:45 <alienth> advertising and gold
  2932. Jul 02 20:47:53 <Kreius> adblocker and don't buy gold. got it
  2933. Jul 02 20:48:02 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: Might be worth making the list of requests look a bit less like demands? Can't hurt to make things look less aggressive.
  2934. Jul 02 20:48:16 <Kreius> when did alienth leave reddit? #newstome
  2935. Jul 02 20:48:21 <alienth> Kreius: back in Feb
  2936. Jul 02 20:48:23 <Obliviater> A while ago
  2937. Jul 02 20:48:28 <Kreius> oh wow it's been awhile then
  2938. Jul 02 20:48:31 <alienth> https://www.reddit.com/r/alienth/comments/2v1cd1/this_is_not_a_test_i_repeat_this_is_not_a_test/
  2939. Jul 02 20:48:32 <gonzobot> (alienth) This is not a test, I repeat, this is not a test : alienth - 95 comments, 81 points - alienth, 4m ago
  2940. Jul 02 20:48:37 <joyouscacophony> .mods gadgets
  2941. Jul 02 20:48:37 <gonzobot> (joyouscacophony) Sorry r/gadgets is set to private and I cannot access it.
  2942. Jul 02 20:48:38 <SlyRatchet> alienth it has adds? I know it has space for adds but I've literally *never* seen a real add on there.
  2943. Jul 02 20:48:50 <x316nuts> When they made all employees move to San Francisco BUT NO RIOTS FOR THAT
  2944. Jul 02 20:48:53 <alienth> SlyRatchet: sidebar ads and sponsored links at the top of listings, for many years
  2945. Jul 02 20:49:07 <alienth> SlyRatchet: https://www.reddit.com/advertising
  2946. Jul 02 20:49:10 <teaearlgraycold> alienth, ooh, stack overflow?
  2947. Jul 02 20:49:13 <x316nuts> Make all of the employees uproot their lives? Don't give a fuck
  2948. Jul 02 20:49:14 <teaearlgraycold> My man
  2949. Jul 02 20:49:16 <joyouscacophony> Gadgets went private
  2950. Jul 02 20:49:19 <SlyRatchet> I've seen the sidebar adds, but there's never adds in them. Just little things which tell me thanks for not using adblock
  2951. Jul 02 20:49:26 <Kreius> I'm waiting to see if MillenniumFalc0n makes NTO go private.
  2952. Jul 02 20:49:33 <SlyRatchet> I know they have advertising *functionality* but that's not what they've been used for
  2953. Jul 02 20:49:40 <Relic2279> x316nuts: ehh, I remember some people giving a fuck about that. there were some angry defaultmod/modtalk posts and threats of going dark
  2954. Jul 02 20:49:50 <alienth> SlyRatchet: nah, there are ads there. you're probably blind to them, like myself.
  2955. Jul 02 20:49:59 <alienth> there have been movie ads there quite recently
  2956. Jul 02 20:49:59 <SlyRatchet> Locutus: I agree on making them look less like demands. It's just that I wrote this like five minutes ago in MC word :P
  2957. Jul 02 20:50:02 <alienth> for some movie i don't remember
  2958. Jul 02 20:50:03 <alienth> heh
  2959. Jul 02 20:50:09 <x316nuts> "threats" = please pay attention to me so I feel important
  2960. Jul 02 20:50:11 <Locutus> Ahah
  2961. Jul 02 20:50:14 <Locutus> Makes sense
  2962. Jul 02 20:50:14 <x316nuts> Please boost my ego
  2963. Jul 02 20:50:20 <alienth> SlyRatchet: we set a policy of never doing animated/fullpage ads when I was there.
  2964. Jul 02 20:50:29 <x316nuts> Shut the fuck up they just want to look at goddamn memes
  2965. Jul 02 20:50:37 <SlyRatchet> Alienth you worked at reddit?
  2966. Jul 02 20:50:37 <GodOfAtheism> imgoingtohellforthis joins le reddit mod revolution
  2967. Jul 02 20:50:37 <snarkypants> remember the policy about remote employees being allowed
  2968. Jul 02 20:50:41 <snarkypants> then they changed it
  2969. Jul 02 20:50:44 <x316nuts> Reddit politics is nothing to them
  2970. Jul 02 20:50:45 <Ivashkin> my ads just say "thanks for not using adblock" which is odd because I am
  2971. Jul 02 20:50:45 <alienth> SlyRatchet: for 4 years :)
  2972. Jul 02 20:50:48 <Relic2279> x316nuts: I think if a few subreddits actually did it, then others would feel inclined to do the same, like dominos. IAMA and Askreddit were the first dominoes this time around
  2973. Jul 02 20:50:50 <teaearlgraycold> There have been threats of "going dark" so many times before - but this time 1 subreddit needed to go dark because their entire workflow was fucked over. Others saw this as an opportunity to do what they'd always hoped to do. So for unrelated reasons they shut down
  2974. Jul 02 20:50:53 <snarkypants> policies arent forever
  2975. Jul 02 20:51:21 <alienth> snarkypants: i do! i was a remote employee :)
  2976. Jul 02 20:51:28 <kwiztas> we in politics have a vote we might join everyone in 7 days when our procedures are done...
  2977. Jul 02 20:51:30 <kwiztas> but prob not
  2978. Jul 02 20:51:32 <snarkypants> ;
  2979. Jul 02 20:51:33 <snarkypants> ;)
  2980. Jul 02 20:51:38 <kwiztas> because this will be over
  2981. Jul 02 20:51:39 <x316nuts> GodOfAtheism: so brave
  2982. Jul 02 20:51:44 <GodOfAtheism> ty
  2983. Jul 02 20:51:54 <x316nuts> Redirect to /r/316cats
  2984. Jul 02 20:52:03 <creesch> r/gadgets also just went private
  2985. Jul 02 20:52:09 <picflute> SRC went private
  2986. Jul 02 20:52:18 <x316nuts> Christ someone redirect to my cats
  2987. Jul 02 20:52:18 <picflute> https://www.reddit.com/r/subredditcancer
  2988. Jul 02 20:52:23 <Locutus> picflute: Bahahahahah
  2989. Jul 02 20:52:26 <kwiztas> i wish there was a website that showed who was down
  2990. Jul 02 20:52:27 <redtaboo> !op
  2991. Jul 02 20:52:28 --- ButtServ gives channel operator status to redtaboo
  2992. Jul 02 20:52:28 <joyouscacophony> Really?
  2993. Jul 02 20:52:28 <Locutus> Oh god
  2994. Jul 02 20:52:34 <x316nuts> THIS IS MY CHANCE
  2995. Jul 02 20:52:35 <SlyRatchet> What the fuck is Subredditcancer going private for?
  2996. Jul 02 20:52:40 <Obliviater> God this whole thing is going to hell
  2997. Jul 02 20:52:44 <picflute> https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditLoyalists
  2998. Jul 02 20:52:46 <Locutus> "Feel free to join us over at /r/RedditLoyalists"
  2999. Jul 02 20:52:56 <picflute> That's a first
  3000. Jul 02 20:52:57 <x316nuts> I'm drinking so this is perfect
  3001. Jul 02 20:52:59 <tizorres> lol
  3002. Jul 02 20:53:00 <x316nuts> Carry on
  3003. Jul 02 20:53:04 <x_plus_popcorn> hahahahahaha src
  3004. Jul 02 20:53:07 <tizorres> what is reddit
  3005. Jul 02 20:53:09 --- redtaboo sets invite on R:Xylan_Treesong
  3006. Jul 02 20:53:09 <SlyRatchet> Oh God! Please let /r/european go private!
  3007. Jul 02 20:53:11 <picflute> The day SRC and the defaults all fought together.
  3008. Jul 02 20:53:12 <tizorres> where am i?
  3009. Jul 02 20:53:17 <multi-mod> oh god, here we go, the flood of modmails asking us to close down
  3010. Jul 02 20:53:30 <kerovon> SRC going private makes me feel contaminated by proxy.
  3011. Jul 02 20:53:34 <Kreius> /r/Greece should go private due to the banking issue
  3012. Jul 02 20:53:40 <x316nuts> We're in the thunder dome
  3013. Jul 02 20:53:41 <tizorres> yeah jsut got modmiails from 3 subs
  3014. Jul 02 20:53:42 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: You know where they'll go instead.
  3015. Jul 02 20:53:44 <alienth> picflute: Royalists vs Cavaliers!
  3016. Jul 02 20:53:46 <multi-mod> I don't even mind the modmails but it's making modmail unusable at the moment
  3017. Jul 02 20:53:57 <redtaboo> !deop
  3018. Jul 02 20:53:57 --- ButtServ removes channel operator status from redtaboo
  3019. Jul 02 20:53:58 <multi-mod> and that's saying a lot from me :P
  3020. Jul 02 20:54:00 <picflute> When I think Cavaliers I think DCI so gg
  3021. Jul 02 20:54:06 <SlyRatchet> Locutus I'm hoping that they go down, that way, if /r/europe goes down nobody will go to /r/european
  3022. Jul 02 20:54:07 <XenoBen> is that sub satire
  3023. Jul 02 20:54:21 <XenoBen> redditloyalists that is
  3024. Jul 02 20:54:25 <SlyRatchet> multi-mod mod mail is unusable anyway ;P
  3025. Jul 02 20:54:34 <Locutus> oh god yes
  3026. Jul 02 20:54:46 <multi-mod> well, rather more unusable than usual
  3027. Jul 02 20:54:47 <tizorres> just chill
  3028. Jul 02 20:55:19 <xlnqeniuz> is gadgets a default?
  3029. Jul 02 20:56:07 <Ivashkin> well, one take home I have is that for everyone at Reddit Inc. the 4th of July weekend is fucked
  3030. Jul 02 20:57:17 <cordismelum> gadgets is a default, I'm pretty sure?
  3031. Jul 02 20:57:25 <picflute> Maybe reddit will celebrate independence day by demodding every default
  3032. Jul 02 20:57:32 <XenoBen> believe so cordismelum
  3033. Jul 02 20:57:32 <mobilehypo> so uh, is there some kind of drama going on today?
  3034. Jul 02 20:57:33 <Obliviater> We're fucked sigh
  3035. Jul 02 20:57:35 <Obliviater> this is it
  3036. Jul 02 20:57:38 <mobilehypo> like i just woke up
  3037. Jul 02 20:57:38 <Obliviater> GG
  3038. Jul 02 20:57:41 <XenoBen> mobilehypo: yes
  3039. Jul 02 20:57:45 <XenoBen> its gr8 drama
  3040. Jul 02 20:57:45 <mobilehypo> what hap?
  3041. Jul 02 20:57:46 <x316nuts> Good morning
  3042. Jul 02 20:57:50 <XenoBen> victoria got fired
  3043. Jul 02 20:57:55 <XenoBen> default subs closed shop
  3044. Jul 02 20:57:56 <x316nuts> Everything is fine
  3045. Jul 02 20:57:57 <mobilehypo> of from AMA?
  3046. Jul 02 20:57:58 <Ivashkin> a large chunk of defaults went dark
  3047. Jul 02 20:57:59 <picflute> Voat went down because of it
  3048. Jul 02 20:58:03 <XenoBen> yes of ama
  3049. Jul 02 20:58:11 <mobilehypo> innnnnteresting
  3050. Jul 02 20:58:20 <kerovon> mobilehypo: victoria got fired. iama went private. Then science, movies, art, askreddit, circlejerk, and a couple others.
  3051. Jul 02 20:58:21 <SlyRatchet> No. No Drama. Everything is fine. Move along, pelase
  3052. Jul 02 20:58:44 <picflute> Fucking CJ just became public also :\
  3053. Jul 02 20:59:00 <xlnqeniuz> that didnt last long
  3054. Jul 02 20:59:09 <snarkypants> my new favorite subreddit is /r/misleadingthumbnails
  3055. Jul 02 20:59:41 <picflute> lol "The Darkening"
  3056. Jul 02 20:59:44 <picflute> god bless /r/jokes
  3057. Jul 02 20:59:48 <XenoBen> southpark makes it look like people from detroit are horrible
  3058. Jul 02 21:00:20 <noeatnosleep|shop> Cordismelum yes we are
  3059. Jul 02 21:00:35 <cordismelum> okay, just making sure
  3060. Jul 02 21:00:35 <Cylon> so, what has happened in the last few hours?
  3061. Jul 02 21:00:40 <noeatnosleep|shop> And I set us to private a few minutes ago.
  3062. Jul 02 21:00:48 <GodOfAtheism> picflute are you sure you aren't just approved for it
  3063. Jul 02 21:01:01 <Flashynuff> https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riama_set_to_private_over_mod_firing/csqfgtr
  3064. Jul 02 21:01:02 <gonzobot> (Flashynuff) /r/IAmA set to private over mod firing : SubredditDrama - 2,333 comments, 4,130 points - eonOne, 6h ago
  3065. Jul 02 21:01:02 <picflute> GoA add me as approved submitter
  3066. Jul 02 21:01:03 <picflute> :D
  3067. Jul 02 21:01:07 <Flashynuff> Wowwww kn0thing
  3068. Jul 02 21:01:25 <GodOfAtheism> we still have a grip of approved submitters from private week
  3069. Jul 02 21:01:33 <XenoBen> whats his job at reddit?
  3070. Jul 02 21:01:34 <XenoBen> just admin?
  3071. Jul 02 21:01:38 <alienth> XenoBen: founder?
  3072. Jul 02 21:01:43 <GodOfAtheism> there you go
  3073. Jul 02 21:01:57 <picflute> I tip my fedora
  3074. Jul 02 21:02:01 <alienth> XenoBen: he and spez created reddit
  3075. Jul 02 21:02:02 <SlyRatchet> Guys, list a bunch of things that moderators need admins for but they suck at?
  3076. Jul 02 21:02:05 <xlnqeniuz> .flip GodOfAtheism
  3077. Jul 02 21:02:05 <gonzobot> (╯°□°）╯ ︵ ɯsᴉǝɥʇAɟOpoG
  3078. Jul 02 21:02:08 <alienth> then left
  3079. Jul 02 21:02:12 <xlnqeniuz> dont add Pic
  3080. Jul 02 21:02:15 <xlnqeniuz> he's worse then me
  3081. Jul 02 21:02:19 <alienth> after quite a while
  3082. Jul 02 21:02:19 <picflute> how?
  3083. Jul 02 21:02:20 <XenoBen> ah ok
  3084. Jul 02 21:02:25 <xlnqeniuz> : ^ )
  3085. Jul 02 21:02:31 <picflute> You got quoted in /r/lol for leading the Paul Bart brigade
  3086. Jul 02 21:02:40 <XenoBen> comments make him look like abit of a dick
  3087. Jul 02 21:02:43 <xlnqeniuz> That was just a happy little mistake
  3088. Jul 02 21:02:51 <x_plus_popcorn> wait more are down?
  3089. Jul 02 21:02:55 <picflute> Which lead to the idea you should be the ambassador
  3090. Jul 02 21:03:09 <teaearlgraycold> noeatnosleep|shop, what did you set to private?
  3091. Jul 02 21:03:20 <noeatnosleep|shop> /r/gadgets
  3092. Jul 02 21:03:24 <noeatnosleep|shop> Default.
  3093. Jul 02 21:03:24 <alienth> XenoBen: eh, i wouldn't cosnider today to be representative. you should dig through his history sometime.
  3094. Jul 02 21:03:40 <XenoBen> ive seen a few comments from him in the past popup a few times
  3095. Jul 02 21:04:05 <kwiztas> XenoBen, Are you sticking too your prediction today?
  3096. Jul 02 21:04:17 <XenoBen> what was it again?
  3097. Jul 02 21:04:21 <kwiztas> XenoBen, <predicted spacex crs7 explosion...
  3098. Jul 02 21:04:32 <alienth> alexis(kn0thing) is an insane individual. when we had a booth at PAX, he sat there for 8 hours straight to a non-stop line and had a *meaningful* conversation with everyone he spoke with... people asked me to sign shit and I couldn't even spell my name correctly :P
  3099. Jul 02 21:04:36 <kwiztas> that reddit would tell us somthing that didn't happen
  3100. Jul 02 21:04:43 <XenoBen> oh yhea
  3101. Jul 02 21:04:46 <XenoBen> i stick to that
  3102. Jul 02 21:05:15 <kwiztas> he should be the new magic 8 ball
  3103. Jul 02 21:05:49 <Paradox> meme
  3104. Jul 02 21:06:42 <picflute> Victoria's Secret Armageddon
  3105. Jul 02 21:06:42 <noeatnosleep> I'm surprised that there is nothing on /r/all related to this.
  3106. Jul 02 21:06:45 <picflute> 10/10
  3107. Jul 02 21:06:51 <XenoBen> ;o
  3108. Jul 02 21:06:51 <Cylon> WAIT
  3109. Jul 02 21:06:55 <XenoBen> i havent checked conspiracy yet
  3110. Jul 02 21:06:56 <INeedAnswers123> http://www.businessinsider.com/reddits-ama-subreddit-down-after-victoria-taylor-depature-2015-7
  3111. Jul 02 21:06:57 <picflute> the srd and ootl thread is in /r/all
  3112. Jul 02 21:06:59 <Cylon> all defaults have gone private?
  3113. Jul 02 21:07:03 <picflute> no
  3114. Jul 02 21:07:04 <picflute> jokes didn'
  3115. Jul 02 21:07:07 <xlnqeniuz> not all of em
  3116. Jul 02 21:07:10 <joyouscacophony> Where you been, cylon
  3117. Jul 02 21:07:10 <xlnqeniuz> most did tho
  3118. Jul 02 21:07:14 <Cylon> this is the best
  3119. Jul 02 21:07:20 <picflute> damn xln
  3120. Jul 02 21:07:24 <Cylon> joyouscacophony, i got off work, went home, and played video games
  3121. Jul 02 21:07:31 <picflute> Now we get to dominate /r/all with post-match threads
  3122. Jul 02 21:07:34 <picflute> :D
  3123. Jul 02 21:07:39 <joyouscacophony> Welcome to the show!
  3124. Jul 02 21:07:42 <xlnqeniuz> OMG
  3125. Jul 02 21:07:49 <Cylon> this is my dream come true
  3126. Jul 02 21:07:52 <xlnqeniuz> but EULCs is on..
  3127. Jul 02 21:07:55 <xlnqeniuz> none of them make it
  3128. Jul 02 21:07:59 <Cylon> 4 years i've been waiting for something like this to happen
  3129. Jul 02 21:08:18 <GuitarFreak> hey alienth, do you know if the way reddit reports traffic stats on /r/sub/about/traffic changed at all in the last few years? (before you left anyway)
  3130. Jul 02 21:08:31 <GuitarFreak> like, since 2012-2013?
  3131. Jul 02 21:08:31 <x316nuts> Cylon woo
  3132. Jul 02 21:08:46 <Cylon> woooooo
  3133. Jul 02 21:08:50 <alienth> GuitarFreak: uhh, there was a refactoring at some point in there. not sure what impact it may have had.
  3134. Jul 02 21:09:03 <alienth> GuitarFreak: you might find something in /r/changelog about it>?
  3135. Jul 02 21:09:08 <GuitarFreak> I remember traffic reporting was fixed in 2012
  3136. Jul 02 21:09:11 <GuitarFreak> before that it was really broken
  3137. Jul 02 21:09:20 <GuitarFreak> but I didn't know if anything changed since then or not
  3138. Jul 02 21:09:36 <alienth> there was cleanup, but to my knowledge no signfiicant changes since that refactor
  3139. Jul 02 21:09:41 <GuitarFreak> huh, alright
  3140. Jul 02 21:09:43 <alienth> it works via pixel checks
  3141. Jul 02 21:10:01 <alienth> don't quote me on that, of course :) my memory isn't perfect.
  3142. Jul 02 21:10:09 <GuitarFreak> I was just looking through some old traffic stats I had and noticed /r/funny gets like 100 million less pageviews than it did in 2012
  3143. Jul 02 21:10:21 <GuitarFreak> wondering if something changed or the subreddit was really not as popular anymore
  3144. Jul 02 21:10:25 <alienth> yes, that is true. i believe /r/funny did contract considerably.
  3145. Jul 02 21:10:46 <GuitarFreak> pics is fairly simiar, only down a little
  3146. Jul 02 21:10:56 <alienth> things also changed up when we added more defaults
  3147. Jul 02 21:11:01 <x316nuts> Well that was the plan Yeah?
  3148. Jul 02 21:11:07 <GuitarFreak> yeah, that was my guess
  3149. Jul 02 21:11:15 <GuitarFreak> lots more defaults to spread the traffic out
  3150. Jul 02 21:11:16 <x316nuts> More defaults = spread out traffic
  3151. Jul 02 21:11:24 <rya|dinner> it worked!
  3152. Jul 02 21:11:26 <x316nuts> Woo +1 for me Yay
  3153. Jul 02 21:11:49 <x316nuts> More eggs in the basket is always good
  3154. Jul 02 21:12:02 <GuitarFreak> it actually gets a few million more uniques than 2012, but less overall pageviews
  3155. Jul 02 21:12:09 <SlyRatchet> how many subscribers does IAMA have?
  3156. Jul 02 21:12:13 <picflute> 8 mill?
  3157. Jul 02 21:12:28 <GuitarFreak> yeah, somewhere over 8M
  3158. Jul 02 21:12:31 <picflute> http://redditmetrics.com/r/IAmA
  3159. Jul 02 21:12:42 <alienth> GuitarFreak: also consider mobile app traffic, which isn't factored in at all on subreddit traffic.
  3160. Jul 02 21:12:49 <GuitarFreak> ooo
  3161. Jul 02 21:12:54 <noeatnosleep> Oh, wow
  3162. Jul 02 21:12:54 <alienth> and folks have definitely been transitioning more to mobile over the years
  3163. Jul 02 21:12:57 <GuitarFreak> that's probably a big thing
  3164. Jul 02 21:12:58 <noeatnosleep> I didn't know that.
  3165. Jul 02 21:13:05 <alienth> mobile *web* traffic is tracked
  3166. Jul 02 21:13:06 <GuitarFreak> lots has changed in 3 years
  3167. Jul 02 21:13:09 <picflute> Wait what
  3168. Jul 02 21:13:17 <picflute> Mobile Traffic isn't counted?
  3169. Jul 02 21:13:18 <alienth> mobile *app* traffic is not (in subreddit traffic counts)
  3170. Jul 02 21:13:20 <blueshiftlabs> alienth: but not API traffic?
  3171. Jul 02 21:13:22 <alienth> yea
  3172. Jul 02 21:13:23 <noeatnosleep> I assumed app traffic was counted
  3173. Jul 02 21:13:30 <noeatnosleep> That's nuts.
  3174. Jul 02 21:13:31 <alienth> app traffic is damn tricky
  3175. Jul 02 21:13:32 <blueshiftlabs> that would explain a lot
  3176. Jul 02 21:13:40 <blueshiftlabs> sounds like kind of a failing
  3177. Jul 02 21:13:41 <alienth> because a lot of it is difficult to differentiate from automated stuff
  3178. Jul 02 21:13:48 * noeatnosleep is questioning his world
  3179. Jul 02 21:13:54 <alienth> and also there are some many different apps which have different pattersn
  3180. Jul 02 21:13:56 <blueshiftlabs> By user-agent?
  3181. Jul 02 21:14:05 <alienth> and a 'pageview' doesn't really translate appropriately for some apps
  3182. Jul 02 21:14:14 <alienth> like, one app can make 5 api calls and show one screen
  3183. Jul 02 21:14:20 <alienth> while another makes a single API call for the same thing
  3184. Jul 02 21:14:22 <alienth> it is a nightmare.
  3185. Jul 02 21:14:24 <noeatnosleep> Dang. I had no idea.
  3186. Jul 02 21:14:31 <blueshiftlabs> ugh, I can imagine
  3187. Jul 02 21:15:15 <sarahbotts> huh, TIL
  3188. Jul 02 21:15:21 <blueshiftlabs> alienth: how does RES affect traffic stats?
  3189. Jul 02 21:15:43 <alienth> blueshiftlabs: it does to some degree, due to never-ending reddit. i don't recall the exact impact.
  3190. Jul 02 21:15:46 <blueshiftlabs> I would imagine it decreases it somewhat, because you don't have a page hit per listing
  3191. Jul 02 21:15:57 <alienth> i think RES actually started hitting the pixels at some point, tho
  3192. Jul 02 21:16:05 <alienth> it's a bit up in the air
  3193. Jul 02 21:16:20 <alienth> also the majority of visitors don't use RES
  3194. Jul 02 21:16:24 <PM> seriously now /r/videos is private, those mods can go fuck themselfs
  3195. Jul 02 21:16:25 <alienth> so wasn't a major impact
  3196. Jul 02 21:16:47 <Obliviater> Hey no
  3197. Jul 02 21:16:49 <Obliviater> now*
  3198. Jul 02 21:16:53 <picflute> damn
  3199. Jul 02 21:16:53 <Obliviater> @PM whats wrong
  3200. Jul 02 21:17:01 <picflute> I mean Obliverator isn't good at LoL but...
  3201. Jul 02 21:17:06 <Obliviater> Die picflute
  3202. Jul 02 21:17:07 <xlnqeniuz> fight fght fight
  3203. Jul 02 21:17:27 <picflute> Kappa
  3204. Jul 02 21:17:30 <PM> can't use reddit because a hand full of mods are acting like children.
  3205. Jul 02 21:17:31 <picflute> But seriously
  3206. Jul 02 21:17:33 <picflute> your ezreal
  3207. Jul 02 21:17:41 <Obliviater> I voted against it
  3208. Jul 02 21:17:43 <PM> that's what's wrong
  3209. Jul 02 21:17:44 <alienth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4
  3210. Jul 02 21:17:44 <gonzobot> (alienth) There is no need to be upset - length 12m 17s - 28,105 likes, 414 dislikes (98.5%) - 1,751,738 views - Simen Martinussen on 2012.08.11
  3211. Jul 02 21:17:49 <Obliviater> But I was over ruled
  3212. Jul 02 21:17:51 <GuitarFreak> thanks for the insight alienth :D I'm always interested in reddit traffic stuff
  3213. Jul 02 21:18:11 <alienth> whenever major drama flareups happened at reddit, i'd usually play that on my TV upstairs a few times.
  3214. Jul 02 21:18:20 <alienth> when i still worked there
  3215. Jul 02 21:18:29 <GuitarFreak> hahaha
  3216. Jul 02 21:19:06 <Xylan_Treesong> Wait, so the shut downs aren't unanimous among the mods?
  3217. Jul 02 21:19:11 <Xylan_Treesong> I assumed they were
  3218. Jul 02 21:19:23 <alienth> Xylan_Treesong: when is anything ever unanimous among mods :/ ?
  3219. Jul 02 21:19:33 <Obliviater> Voats down
  3220. Jul 02 21:19:47 <Xylan_Treesong> Most major changes in /r/NFL are unanimous
  3221. Jul 02 21:19:48 <xlnqeniuz> Ofcourse it is
  3222. Jul 02 21:20:02 <alienth> Xylan_Treesong: nice, that's good to hear :)
  3223. Jul 02 21:20:07 <blueshiftlabs> Obliviater: when is Voat *not* down?
  3224. Jul 02 21:20:14 <Obliviater> Lol
  3225. Jul 02 21:20:45 <alienth> Xylan_Treesong: it's unfortunate that football is the scourge of society.
  3226. Jul 02 21:20:52 <alienth> down with football, btw
  3227. Jul 02 21:20:54 <alienth> *cough*
  3228. Jul 02 21:21:04 <Cylon> i need to be able to split screen this with my video games
  3229. Jul 02 21:21:19 <Cylon> this is too good
  3230. Jul 02 21:21:20 <picflute> I'll never get why Voat used C# ASP
  3231. Jul 02 21:21:22 <blueshiftlabs> what's going to be left on the defaults?
  3232. Jul 02 21:21:25 <blueshiftlabs> /r/aww?
  3233. Jul 02 21:21:27 <Obliviater> @sarahbotts
  3234. Jul 02 21:21:34 <Obliviater> Xaviormendal took modtalk
  3235. Jul 02 21:21:36 <Obliviater> on voat
  3236. Jul 02 21:21:39 <Obliviater> how ironic
  3237. Jul 02 21:21:41 <picflute> KAPPA
  3238. Jul 02 21:21:42 <Xylan_Treesong> Football has 4 downs
  3239. Jul 02 21:21:59 <picflute> https://www.reddit.com/subreddits
  3240. Jul 02 21:22:01 <alienth> picflute: StackExchange is ASP.NET
  3241. Jul 02 21:22:04 <blueshiftlabs> offer void in Canada
  3242. Jul 02 21:22:15 <blueshiftlabs> Xylan_Treesong: ^
  3243. Jul 02 21:22:16 <sarahbotts> oh damn
  3244. Jul 02 21:22:19 <sarahbotts> wait is this modtalk
  3245. Jul 02 21:22:21 <XenoBen> ASP C# sits nicely on azure
  3246. Jul 02 21:22:29 <sarahbotts> oops don't mind that
  3247. Jul 02 21:22:35 <blueshiftlabs> sarahbotts: yes, this is modtalk
  3248. Jul 02 21:22:35 <picflute> Hey /r/LoL is top 10 now
  3249. Jul 02 21:22:47 <xlnqeniuz> LOL
  3250. Jul 02 21:22:55 <Obliviater> >.<
  3251. Jul 02 21:22:58 <Obliviater> this is shit it really is
  3252. Jul 02 21:23:03 <picflute> LOL
  3253. Jul 02 21:23:04 <sarahbotts> thought it was defaultmods for a sec
  3254. Jul 02 21:23:06 <Xylan_Treesong> blueshiftlabs: Wait, Canada is real? I always assumed that was a myth.
  3255. Jul 02 21:23:07 <tizorres> how do u look at top subs?
  3256. Jul 02 21:23:12 <picflute> https://www.reddit.com/subreddits
  3257. Jul 02 21:23:15 <alienth> picflute: how is the game doing, btw? still growing?
  3258. Jul 02 21:23:20 <Xylan_Treesong> Kidding. They're our friendly southern neighbours
  3259. Jul 02 21:23:26 <sarahbotts> alienth it's bigger than ever right now
  3260. Jul 02 21:23:31 <alienth> mm
  3261. Jul 02 21:23:41 <alienth> i don't hate it, but i cannot bring myself to enjoy it.
  3262. Jul 02 21:23:45 <sarahbotts> Iunno, I like it. I play a stupid amount of league though
  3263. Jul 02 21:23:45 <alienth> so i'm an outsider to that culture
  3264. Jul 02 21:23:49 <SlyRatchet> Guys, what do you think to the preamble? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AmZVV7i0aWfDnzyrFlPVBRpl5SUojlhUvb5COElZIYU/edit
  3265. Jul 02 21:23:58 <alienth> starcraft is my game
  3266. Jul 02 21:24:27 <picflute> We're currently in the recovering phase in r/lol. They just cooled off after hating Riot for not having a new client.
  3267. Jul 02 21:24:31 <sarahbotts> it's honestly a sunk cost though
  3268. Jul 02 21:24:35 <alienth> SlyRatchet: replace with "When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another"
  3269. Jul 02 21:24:52 <sarahbotts> There is a calculator for how much life you've spent playing league... and when you see the numbers it's not pretty
  3270. Jul 02 21:25:09 <alienth> sarahbotts: playing or having the client open?
  3271. Jul 02 21:25:18 <sarahbotts> playing
  3272. Jul 02 21:25:27 <alienth> i have like 60 days play time on WoW, from the first couple years alone. haven't touched it in some time.
  3273. Jul 02 21:25:29 <sarahbotts> it's calculated based on games (wins/losses)
  3274. Jul 02 21:25:42 <sarahbotts> I think the game length is available through their api
  3275. Jul 02 21:25:47 <alienth> neat
  3276. Jul 02 21:25:48 <x_plus_popcorn> lol /r/4chan went private
  3277. Jul 02 21:25:49 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: Make sure you've capitalised the "V" in "Victoria".
  3278. Jul 02 21:25:53 <xlnqeniuz> rofl
  3279. Jul 02 21:25:53 <Cylon> SlyRatchet, first sentence has redundancies
  3280. Jul 02 21:25:56 <sarahbotts> either way you can estimate about 30-35 min per win or loss
  3281. Jul 02 21:26:05 <XenoBen> i want cj back
  3282. Jul 02 21:26:07 <XenoBen> i miss it
  3283. Jul 02 21:26:22 <alienth> XenoBen: braveryjerk is still up
  3284. Jul 02 21:26:22 <sarahbotts> It has such a high learning curve, I was playing dota for a bit and it's just not worth putting in the time o learn another moba
  3285. Jul 02 21:26:22 <Cylon> "the reason for the blackout was caused by" should either be the reason for the blackout was or the blackout was caused by
  3286. Jul 02 21:26:25 <sarahbotts> though I do play hots
  3287. Jul 02 21:26:31 <SlyRatchet> Alienth sounds like a Marx quote or something
  3288. Jul 02 21:26:56 <SlyRatchet> Cylon editting, Locutus thanks! I won't let me dyslexia get in the way!
  3289. Jul 02 21:27:05 <Ivashkin> what is DOTA?
  3290. Jul 02 21:27:09 <alienth> SlyRatchet: uhh.. that's the preamble of the Declaration of Independence...
  3291. Jul 02 21:27:17 <XenoBen> braveryjerk isnt the same though...
  3292. Jul 02 21:27:17 <Cylon> ahaahahahaha
  3293. Jul 02 21:27:19 <XenoBen> its not cj
  3294. Jul 02 21:27:21 <sarahbotts> err techinically it's dota2
  3295. Jul 02 21:27:32 <Ivashkin> i keep hearing about it, have absolutely no idea what it's about
  3296. Jul 02 21:27:33 <alienth> SlyRatchet accusing Thomas Jefferson of being Marxist!
  3297. Jul 02 21:27:34 <Locutus> Ivashkin: Overgrown Warcraft 3 game mod with aspirations above its station. Pretty huge player base.
  3298. Jul 02 21:27:34 <SlyRatchet> Marx... Founding Fathers.... Same thing, right?
  3299. Jul 02 21:27:37 <sarahbotts> defense of the ancients 2, it's a moba
  3300. Jul 02 21:27:51 <sarahbotts> the irony is that league is based off of dota 2 :P
  3301. Jul 02 21:28:01 <Ivashkin> so not a co-op zombie shooter?
  3302. Jul 02 21:28:06 <sarahbotts> baron nashor, roshan amirite
  3303. Jul 02 21:28:07 <SlyRatchet> In my defence, I am British! It's half past two in the morning as well!
  3304. Jul 02 21:28:10 <blueshiftlabs> sarahbotts: or rather, dota 2 and league were both based off dota 1
  3305. Jul 02 21:28:24 <XenoBen> so hows bernie doing
  3306. Jul 02 21:28:34 <sarahbotts> lol details
  3307. Jul 02 21:28:39 <alienth> SlyRatchet: ah, the redcoats!
  3308. Jul 02 21:28:39 <gilgamesh> books is going as well
  3309. Jul 02 21:28:49 <x_plus_popcorn> !mods youdontsurf
  3310. Jul 02 21:28:49 <XenoBen> SlyRatchet: turn on bbc2
  3311. Jul 02 21:28:49 <redditBot> r/youdontsurf has 14 mods: minecraftfan123, Hamburgex, Motha_Effin_Kitty_Yo, Soul_Shot, ghostly175, _Taydolph_Swiftler_, x_minus_one, randoh12, elfa82, pyrowolf8, Jabberminor, Meowing_Cows, apocolyptictodd, and AutoModerator
  3312. Jul 02 21:28:53 <x_plus_popcorn> plz check modmail
  3313. Jul 02 21:28:58 <Ivashkin> we're everywhere
  3314. Jul 02 21:29:13 <gorillagnomes> I love you don't surf
  3315. Jul 02 21:29:16 <Ivashkin> something something tea sunday roast
  3316. Jul 02 21:29:16 <gorillagnomes> so funny
  3317. Jul 02 21:29:25 <XenoBen> crumpets something something
  3318. Jul 02 21:29:28 <XenoBen> cricket ol chaps
  3319. Jul 02 21:29:32 <allthefoxes> sarahbotts, dota 1 happened, but in the time between 1 and 2, the gap was taken advantage of and they made lol
  3320. Jul 02 21:29:38 <x_plus_popcorn> yds was the second big sub I got modded to
  3321. Jul 02 21:29:52 <SlyRatchet> I'm gonna put a note in the bottom, in size 6 font, which says "also, supports the annexation of the USA into the United Kingdom as an overseas territory" and all the mods will have signed off their agreement ^_^
  3322. Jul 02 21:29:57 <alienth> to take a brief and crude step back from today's mess, I do think it is amusing that y'all are working on this type of document 2 days before July 4th.
  3323. Jul 02 21:30:16 <multi-mod> why does the #darkening sound more racist than revolutionary? :P
  3324. Jul 02 21:30:17 <Cylon> oh wow
  3325. Jul 02 21:30:17 <XenoBen> SlyRatchet: im all for pushing wales to the USA
  3326. Jul 02 21:30:19 <alienth> maybe this is all just an avant garde reenactment?
  3327. Jul 02 21:30:20 <blueshiftlabs> ooh
  3328. Jul 02 21:30:26 <Cylon> alienth good catch
  3329. Jul 02 21:30:29 <blueshiftlabs> can we hold off on releasing it until Saturday?
  3330. Jul 02 21:30:46 <Cylon> i now choose to believe that we're all simply trapped in a computer simulation and this is all a joke
  3331. Jul 02 21:30:58 <JustPassingThrough> #AMAgeddon is better, props to that one dude in srd and the one dude who stole it from srd who i stole it from
  3332. Jul 02 21:30:59 <SlyRatchet> I'd actually completely forgotten Independence Day was upcoming. Now I feel the need to put in some more cool references... Would that spoil the mood?
  3333. Jul 02 21:31:05 <XenoBen> we are in skynets simulation
  3334. Jul 02 21:31:14 <blueshiftlabs> In Reddit, July 4, 2015
  3335. Jul 02 21:31:19 <SlyRatchet> Paging fellow mdoerator TheSkyNet
  3336. Jul 02 21:31:44 <XenoBen> he aint here
  3337. Jul 02 21:31:56 <blueshiftlabs> The unanimous Declaration of the United Moderators of Reddit
  3338. Jul 02 21:31:58 <alienth> SlyRatchet: yep, today is the last workday for most, too. 3 day weekend (July 3rd is a federal holiday this yr since the 4th is a Sat)
  3339. Jul 02 21:32:18 <xlnqeniuz> Aaand books is down
  3340. Jul 02 21:32:23 <allthefoxes> rip
  3341. Jul 02 21:32:23 <Locutus> ouch.
  3342. Jul 02 21:32:26 <alienth> no taxation, err, moderation without representation?
  3343. Jul 02 21:32:30 <allthefoxes> LOL
  3344. Jul 02 21:32:34 <allthefoxes> new slogan pls
  3345. Jul 02 21:32:40 <multi-mod> books has been burned, the censors have won!
  3346. Jul 02 21:32:44 <Ivashkin> fuck it, i'm tempted to take /ukpolitics down
  3347. Jul 02 21:33:05 <SlyRatchet> That should so be the name of our moderators' union
  3348. Jul 02 21:33:07 <allthefoxes> me irl: http://imgur.com/cUyEqy4
  3349. Jul 02 21:33:13 <XenoBen> Ivashkin: do it
  3350. Jul 02 21:33:20 <XenoBen> most of the users on it are horrible anyway
  3351. Jul 02 21:33:23 <Locutus> ooft
  3352. Jul 02 21:33:29 <Ivashkin> yeah
  3353. Jul 02 21:33:32 <Locutus> Sure it'd be a good idea?
  3354. Jul 02 21:33:40 <Locutus> I mean, it'd just shunt traffic to /r/uk
  3355. Jul 02 21:33:58 <XenoBen> send them to /r/murica
  3356. Jul 02 21:34:06 <Ivashkin> I think most of our users would be suprised to find other subs exist
  3357. Jul 02 21:34:08 <XenoBen> get this party started early
  3358. Jul 02 21:34:18 <Locutus> fair observation.
  3359. Jul 02 21:34:23 <xlnqeniuz> books is back up
  3360. Jul 02 21:34:24 <xlnqeniuz> LOL
  3361. Jul 02 21:34:25 <xlnqeniuz> wtf
  3362. Jul 02 21:34:25 <multi-mod> in other news the admins have found a wya to promote non-default subreddits!
  3363. Jul 02 21:34:36 <allthefoxes> IN OTHER NEWS
  3364. Jul 02 21:34:40 <allthefoxes> !karma allthefoxes
  3365. Jul 02 21:34:40 <redditBot> allthefoxes has 48,024 link karma and 100,370 comment karma.
  3366. Jul 02 21:34:42 <allthefoxes> I DID IT
  3367. Jul 02 21:34:45 <Flashynuff> rofl multi-mod
  3368. Jul 02 21:34:46 <XenoBen> karma whoreeeeee
  3369. Jul 02 21:34:46 <multi-mod> welp, that was quick books
  3370. Jul 02 21:34:58 <alienth> to be non-silly for a moment: I'm kinda on the outside from all of the happenings. All I can do is encourage folks to think about what blackouts are working to accomplish. One thing I'm sure y'all are aware of is that the non-mod community is a party in this whole plot as well. The pendulum can easily shift when a mob is formed :/
  3371. Jul 02 21:34:58 <xlnqeniuz> They sure show'd em
  3372. Jul 02 21:35:06 <alienth> so, be careful, and think on things carefully i guess.
  3373. Jul 02 21:35:17 <Locutus> Ivashkin: Probably a bad idea, though. I mean, ukpolitics mobs can be unpleasant.
  3374. Jul 02 21:35:18 <alienth> wish i could be of more help :(
  3375. Jul 02 21:35:20 <Flashynuff> Honestly
  3376. Jul 02 21:35:22 <Locutus> You might end up the target. =\
  3377. Jul 02 21:35:22 <sarahbotts> yeah...mobs are scary
  3378. Jul 02 21:35:25 <allthefoxes> alienth, yeah, thats true..but..i mean, what else do we do? Keep whining? Thats gotten us..mm..no where in the last how many years?
  3379. Jul 02 21:35:27 <Flashynuff> I just want things to change in some way
  3380. Jul 02 21:35:34 <sarahbotts> especially when they're against you
  3381. Jul 02 21:35:35 <SlyRatchet> Yeah. What's really annoying me is that there is no way to communicate what is happening to the general public
  3382. Jul 02 21:35:41 <sarahbotts> we learned that the hard way in league
  3383. Jul 02 21:35:55 <allthefoxes> I mean, our options are: A. Deal with it
  3384. Jul 02 21:35:55 <Ivashkin> another mod complaint, we can't block twats from modmail
  3385. Jul 02 21:35:57 <allthefoxes> B. Keep whining
  3386. Jul 02 21:36:00 <allthefoxes> C. Do something
  3387. Jul 02 21:36:05 <XenoBen> yes modmail block
  3388. Jul 02 21:36:06 <multi-mod> damnit books, I couldn't even finish sining the refrain "we shall overco..." before you went public again
  3389. Jul 02 21:36:08 <XenoBen> stop spammers
  3390. Jul 02 21:36:09 <allthefoxes> And for C. the options are pretty limited
  3391. Jul 02 21:36:10 <sarahbotts> modmail block please
  3392. Jul 02 21:36:15 <Locutus> Dear god, modmail block
  3393. Jul 02 21:36:19 <sarahbotts> also something like if a person is spamming a message fucking don't let them do that
  3394. Jul 02 21:36:26 <allthefoxes> We can't just do a mass sticky post
  3395. Jul 02 21:36:27 <SlyRatchet> Good idea! putting that into the declaration of independence
  3396. Jul 02 21:36:31 <XenoBen> I DEMAND MODMAIL BLOCKS, OR NEARLYTRUESTORY WILL GO PRIVATE
  3397. Jul 02 21:36:31 <allthefoxes> look how well reddit 101 went
  3398. Jul 02 21:36:37 <x_plus_popcorn> books is back
  3399. Jul 02 21:36:39 <x_plus_popcorn> :(
  3400. Jul 02 21:36:40 <allthefoxes> (Hint, it went terrible)
  3401. Jul 02 21:36:52 <Ivashkin> I banned a user, they PM'd me ever 5 mins for 18 hours
  3402. Jul 02 21:36:54 <Locutus> We're still getting modmails from one of /u/bulldog312's blizzard of alts, months later. It's more funny than anything else, but it doesn't half get tiresome with some users.
  3403. Jul 02 21:36:54 <SlyRatchet> I thought reddit 101 was supposed to have gone well outside of /r/europe?
  3404. Jul 02 21:36:59 <allthefoxes> not really
  3405. Jul 02 21:37:00 <Ivashkin> 18 hours!
  3406. Jul 02 21:37:04 <Locutus> ...
  3407. Jul 02 21:37:05 <Locutus> :|
  3408. Jul 02 21:37:06 <allthefoxes> it got a 51% score on /r/pics
  3409. Jul 02 21:37:16 <SlyRatchet> We got a user once who set up a script which mailed us the entire works of shakespeare
  3410. Jul 02 21:37:21 <SlyRatchet> I was quite enjoying it TBF
  3411. Jul 02 21:37:26 <alienth> allthefoxes: i hear ya, and i believe the reddit team is also aware that anything that is said is not worth much right now, because things have been being said for a long time. so, both sides of the argument are kinda at an impasse. i think the only thing that would appease the situation would be for action to be taken, but you won't see action on things like features without considerable lag time.
  3412. Jul 02 21:37:47 <allthefoxes> Yeah, you are right
  3413. Jul 02 21:38:04 <blueshiftlabs> https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/3bxv9i/when_this_post_is_15_minutes_old_rbooks_will_go/
  3414. Jul 02 21:38:04 <gonzobot> (blueshiftlabs) When this post is 15 minutes old, /r/books will go private for a day. : books - 9 comments, 26 points - DaedalusMinion, 3m ago
  3415. Jul 02 21:38:07 <alienth> tiem will tell the outcome, i suppose :/
  3416. Jul 02 21:38:14 <sarahbotts> Though Alexis's statements have been more detrimental than helpful imo
  3417. Jul 02 21:38:16 <Ivashkin> but there is time for Reddit Dollars or whatever it was called?
  3418. Jul 02 21:38:25 <allthefoxes> alienth, just personally, I'm really fed up. There is literally just..i mean, you know man
  3419. Jul 02 21:38:30 <allthefoxes> how long this has been going on
  3420. Jul 02 21:38:30 <alienth> Ivashkin: that project was shelved.
  3421. Jul 02 21:38:34 <blueshiftlabs> Ivashkin: that guy got canned for a reason
  3422. Jul 02 21:38:37 <alienth> Ivashkin: as was announced
  3423. Jul 02 21:38:44 <XenoBen> snoogaming died pretty quick
  3424. Jul 02 21:38:46 <allthefoxes> I could write a 30 volume works of all the reddit communication fuckup
  3425. Jul 02 21:38:48 <Ivashkin> I missed that bit
  3426. Jul 02 21:39:01 <XenoBen> redditmade died too
  3427. Jul 02 21:39:09 <Ivashkin> but still, someone at one point thought "this is a good idea, lets spend time on it"
  3428. Jul 02 21:39:28 <Xylan_Treesong> I'd add in, from what I've seen so far, non-mods don't seem to have a great idea of what is really wrong
  3429. Jul 02 21:39:38 <allthefoxes> people need to keep linking OOTL
  3430. Jul 02 21:39:58 <x316nuts> Muh karma
  3431. Jul 02 21:40:07 <blueshiftlabs> very few people understand all of what's going on, and most of them are in this channel
  3432. Jul 02 21:40:07 <Locutus> Xylan_Treesong has a good point.
  3433. Jul 02 21:40:34 <allthefoxes> you know what would be cool
  3434. Jul 02 21:40:43 <allthefoxes> the remove button in modmail doing something
  3435. Jul 02 21:40:46 <allthefoxes> also lol https://www.allthefoxes.me/img/40-ZKOEFysc.png
  3436. Jul 02 21:40:49 <SlyRatchet> We should just do a version of reddit 101 across the site ASAP. It was hated then, but at least now it is transmitting useful information
  3437. Jul 02 21:42:37 <blueshiftlabs> ^ this, people need to understand WTF is going on
  3438. Jul 02 21:42:43 <Locutus> We need something like SlyRatchet's points. But, they'd have to be succinct - and it'd best be phrased in a way that emphasises that we'd just like to be able to do our jobs better to make the subreddits we mod better experiences for everyone. I mean, obviously that'll get the SRC/KiA/ad nauseum lot whinging- but if it's a commonly held set of positions
  3439. Jul 02 21:42:43 <Locutus> explained to users well enough, people would probably be fine with a day or so of disruption.
  3440. Jul 02 21:42:44 <blueshiftlabs> and, more importantly, *nhy*
  3441. Jul 02 21:42:50 <blueshiftlabs> s/nhy/why/
  3442. Jul 02 21:42:50 <gonzobot> Correction, <blueshiftlabs> and, more importantly, *why*
  3443. Jul 02 21:43:44 <SlyRatchet> Yeah, I feel like my thing is too long
  3444. Jul 02 21:43:53 <Ivashkin> i wonder how long before Reddit considers taking possession of the defaults
  3445. Jul 02 21:43:55 <XenoBen> throw a meme in
  3446. Jul 02 21:44:07 <SlyRatchet> I've written a pre-amble explaining why, but I don't feel as though ti really hits home (link again to save people scrolling up https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AmZVV7i0aWfDnzyrFlPVBRpl5SUojlhUvb5COElZIYU/edit)
  3447. Jul 02 21:44:37 <SlyRatchet> I think it'll be a couple of days before they seriously consider it, but I think it'll be desperate if they do. They know that those subreddits are useless without mods
  3448. Jul 02 21:44:49 <SlyRatchet> It'd be like having a factory, but nobody who knows how to use it
  3449. Jul 02 21:45:06 <blueshiftlabs> SlyRatchet: if they do, that will mostlikely kill reddit as we know it
  3450. Jul 02 21:45:42 <Cylon> i think the mods will reopen the subs before the admins ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL
  3451. Jul 02 21:45:56 <SlyRatchet> The threat of it would be enough
  3452. Jul 02 21:46:04 <Ivashkin> not really
  3453. Jul 02 21:46:10 <Cylon> but if they do, i really hope at least someone in the reddit office is yelling ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL the entire time
  3454. Jul 02 21:46:14 <L_Cranston_Shadow> apparently beyond getting shadowbanned, go1dfish got locked out of his account by the admins - warning /r/undelete link - https://np.reddit.com/r/undelete/comments/3bthjp/reddit_free_speech_advocate_ugo1dfish_has_been/
  3455. Jul 02 21:46:14 <gonzobot> (L_Cranston_Shadow) Reddit free speech advocate /u/go1dfish has been "chucked". His... : undelete - 31 comments, 139 points - AssuredlyAThrowAway, 1d ago
  3456. Jul 02 21:46:27 <allthefoxes> hry
  3457. Jul 02 21:46:28 <Locutus> Hm
  3458. Jul 02 21:46:32 <blueshiftlabs> Cylon: as they hand out the shadowbans, they say "THIS HURTS YOU"
  3459. Jul 02 21:46:34 <allthefoxes> are you guys thinking about going dark?
  3460. Jul 02 21:46:39 <allthefoxes> This is what I say:
  3461. Jul 02 21:46:40 <allthefoxes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuHfVn_cfHU
  3462. Jul 02 21:46:40 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) Shia LaBeouf delivers the most intense motivational speech of all-time - length 1m 5s - 219,168 likes, 4,296 dislikes (98.1%) - 14,681,867 views - Mike Mohamed on 2015.05.27
  3463. Jul 02 21:46:49 <allthefoxes> dammit gonzobot
  3464. Jul 02 21:47:15 <joyouscacophony> spoilers!
  3465. Jul 02 21:47:44 <Ivashkin> I also wonder at what point the admins will revolt against management
  3466. Jul 02 21:48:04 <Ivashkin> there has to be a line where they are told to do something and will decide not to do it
  3467. Jul 02 21:48:17 <JustPassingThrough> the line was 'move to SF'
  3468. Jul 02 21:48:56 <alienth> Ivashkin: most of the time i was there the leadership folks felt like part of the team. definitely had disagreements, but in general we 'struggled together'
  3469. Jul 02 21:49:09 <x_plus_popcorn> #racetogether
  3470. Jul 02 21:49:44 <Ivashkin> I've been in situations where I was given ordered I really disagreed with, no idea what working in reddit is like though
  3471. Jul 02 21:49:49 <alienth> also, i think most people would rather probably just leave rather than deal with the stress of fighting management. the stress isn't worth it.
  3472. Jul 02 21:49:50 <allthefoxes> wow
  3473. Jul 02 21:50:00 <allthefoxes> you know what I just thought of
  3474. Jul 02 21:50:08 <allthefoxes> reddit is losing a shit ton of revenue right now
  3475. Jul 02 21:50:09 <x316nuts> What
  3476. Jul 02 21:50:11 <allthefoxes> all that askreddit gold
  3477. Jul 02 21:50:14 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: I'm not sure the ultimatum in the preamble is a good idea
  3478. Jul 02 21:50:21 <alienth> Ivashkin: in this scenario it is a relatively tight-knit group of folks. i mean, there are like 60 people.
  3479. Jul 02 21:50:26 <x316nuts> Or its saving money on bandwidth
  3480. Jul 02 21:50:28 <Locutus> We don't have much to bring to bear
  3481. Jul 02 21:50:32 <XenoBen> plex got haxored
  3482. Jul 02 21:50:36 <allthefoxes> wow stop being an optimist dude
  3483. Jul 02 21:50:38 <Flashynuff> allthefoxes, that's alright. They still have their #2 and #3 subs, /r/funny and /r/etiquette
  3484. Jul 02 21:50:45 <Ivashkin> dunbars number
  3485. Jul 02 21:50:53 <alienth> allthefoxes: gold was still a rather small part of overall revenue.
  3486. Jul 02 21:51:03 <alienth> i'm sure it will be missed if it dropped and stays low
  3487. Jul 02 21:51:06 <SlyRatchet> Yeah I'm not 100 about it either locutus. I mean, it's kind of implied
  3488. Jul 02 21:51:09 <allthefoxes> ads dont show on :this sub is private" pages ^ : )
  3489. Jul 02 21:51:13 <Locutus> Perhaps phrasing it in terms of its being a protest to draw attention to the problem might be better, SlyRatchet? I mean, we risk being too confrontational.
  3490. Jul 02 21:51:18 <allthefoxes> oh i messed my sarcastic smiley up
  3491. Jul 02 21:51:24 <TheMentalist> SlyRatchet, is it you who is working on that Google Doc?
  3492. Jul 02 21:51:44 <alienth> allthefoxes: yeah, i'm sure a bunch of ad campaigns are in a mess now, because subreddits can be targeted.
  3493. Jul 02 21:51:50 <GodOfAtheism> https://www.reddit.com/r/DearYishan/comments/3bwxhh/dear_yishan_can_we_get_victoria_back/csqjf3f
  3494. Jul 02 21:51:51 <gonzobot> (GodOfAtheism) Dear Yishan, can we get victoria back? : DearYishan - 16 comments, 70 points - theferdog, 5h ago
  3495. Jul 02 21:51:53 <GodOfAtheism> lel
  3496. Jul 02 21:51:55 <Locutus> groan
  3497. Jul 02 21:51:56 <SlyRatchet> Locutus Definitely! I was trying to strike a "our working conditions are SHIt" tone but it accidentally came out too angry
  3498. Jul 02 21:52:00 <SlyRatchet> TheMentalis yes
  3499. Jul 02 21:52:04 <SlyRatchet> t'is I
  3500. Jul 02 21:52:09 <TheMentalist> Could I have a link to it again, I closed it :'(
  3501. Jul 02 21:52:14 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: Totally with you. Hm
  3502. Jul 02 21:52:23 <TheMentalist> Hopefully it's changed from last time I read it, but it looked in danger of being an /r/conspiracy-esque post last time I saw it
  3503. Jul 02 21:52:28 <blueshiftlabs> I think the way we need to phrase it
  3504. Jul 02 21:52:39 <SlyRatchet> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AmZVV7i0aWfDnzyrFlPVBRpl5SUojlhUvb5COElZIYU/edit
  3505. Jul 02 21:52:42 <multi-mod> music is RIP soon also
  3506. Jul 02 21:52:44 <blueshiftlabs> is that we're going on strike
  3507. Jul 02 21:52:45 <Flashynuff> music just went private
  3508. Jul 02 21:53:12 <allthefoxes> wow SlyRatchet thats cringey, honestly
  3509. Jul 02 21:53:18 <SlyRatchet> blueshiftlabs yeah that's how I'm trying to phrase it. But it's hard to phrase it as being a strike, without sounding confrontational. I think phrasing it as awareness is better
  3510. Jul 02 21:53:29 <alienth> blueshiftlabs: if it was purely a strike, the community would probably demand that scabs be let in to take on the subreddits.
  3511. Jul 02 21:53:39 <allthefoxes> SlyRatchet, this is pretty much all there is to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/defaultmods/comments/3bxt8q/whats_it_going_to_take_to_end_this_blackout/csqjaa0
  3512. Jul 02 21:53:46 <allthefoxes> Dont need to make it any more than that
  3513. Jul 02 21:54:01 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: what's that say?
  3514. Jul 02 21:54:03 <TheMentalist> SlyRatchet, can I suggest cutting this down dramatically?
  3515. Jul 02 21:54:04 <Locutus> Let's not make it a strike thing
  3516. Jul 02 21:54:11 <Ivashkin> allthefoxes, we're only geo-default mods :(
  3517. Jul 02 21:54:11 <TheMentalist> As per allthefoxes' comment, yes
  3518. Jul 02 21:54:13 <allthefoxes> yeah SlyRatchet thats way too long, and just reads badly
  3519. Jul 02 21:54:30 <SlyRatchet> A) less dramatic B) shorter
  3520. Jul 02 21:54:45 <TheMentalist> Also, PiratePad or something collaborative might be better, SlyRatchet :)
  3521. Jul 02 21:54:46 <INeedAnswers123> music went private
  3522. Jul 02 21:55:04 <Locutus> If we are to add a preamble/explanation thing, I think it might be phrased in terms of something like "We love this site, and want it to succeed- but we're struggling to do the job with the tools at hand". Bit cloying, but it's not altogether unfair
  3523. Jul 02 21:55:10 <SlyRatchet> also, in my defence: I knew it was bad as I wrote it. I figured I should write whatever way came first, and then improve on it. You can imagine whatever's in your head but it's useless until you put finger to keyboard
  3524. Jul 02 21:55:14 <allthefoxes> All that needs to be said is basically: "A lot of subreddits are going private because they are tired of the lack of communication and semi disregard of the people who help run this site, all on thier free time, moderatrs"
  3525. Jul 02 21:55:19 <TheMentalist> That's fair enough^
  3526. Jul 02 21:55:28 <Ivashkin> one angle I would say is important to communicate to users is that bad mod tools and lack of admin help forces mods to moderate more aggressively than they would like to
  3527. Jul 02 21:55:34 <allthefoxes> "Victoria leaving reddit was a simple "straw that broke the camels back""
  3528. Jul 02 21:55:35 <Gaget> The admins give us the mushroom treatment. They keep us in the dark and feed us shit.
  3529. Jul 02 21:55:39 <allthefoxes> kek
  3530. Jul 02 21:55:43 <Locutus> allthefoxes: I think that's a one-step guaranteed way to turn the users against us.
  3531. Jul 02 21:56:04 <allthefoxes> You know how you really turn them against us? Writing silly, long, documents and calling them declarations
  3532. Jul 02 21:56:11 <allthefoxes> that makes us look like idiots with a power trip
  3533. Jul 02 21:56:14 <L_Cranston_Shadow> Is it just me or did IAMA screw up by relying entirely on Victoria?
  3534. Jul 02 21:56:16 <Locutus> It implies that we're somehow entitled to drag our communities along with us on this - it's not for our benefit, it's for theirs.
  3535. Jul 02 21:56:19 <Locutus> Yeah
  3536. Jul 02 21:56:31 <allthefoxes> Ive been getting nothing but positive comments and support from my comments I left today
  3537. Jul 02 21:56:35 <XenoBen> need some dank memes on frontpage
  3538. Jul 02 21:56:39 <L_Cranston_Shadow> I can understand having an internal line to the admins when something goes wrong, but the other things they’re saying that she did, like scheduling and setup, could just as easily been done through the mods
  3539. Jul 02 21:56:41 <Locutus> Not disagreeing- but I think making it positive is essential
  3540. Jul 02 21:56:45 <XenoBen> .gis dankest of the dank
  3541. Jul 02 21:56:45 <gonzobot> (XenoBen) http://i.imgur.com/T10n8ly.jpg
  3542. Jul 02 21:56:48 <allthefoxes> This is what I said:
  3543. Jul 02 21:56:49 <allthefoxes> I want to make it a bit more clear that many moderators, Myself included, are saying this isn't t just about Victoria.
  3544. Jul 02 21:56:49 <allthefoxes> I love Victoria. She was a great admin. But she's not with reddit and we have to deal with that. Nothing to be done
  3545. Jul 02 21:56:49 <allthefoxes> What people are upset about is the clear lack of communication and the almost disregard of the thousands of people who help keep this site running, all with their free time.
  3546. Jul 02 21:56:50 <allthefoxes> A lot of people are saying "well they are throwing a temper tantrum, shutting down the subreddits isn't the right call"
  3547. Jul 02 21:56:53 <allthefoxes> Well, what would you do? Talk to them? We've been trying that for years.
  3548. Jul 02 21:57:15 <SlyRatchet> btw guys, if you want to make sure I read something, put my name in it or leave it as a comment on the document. I cant write and keep up with how fast you guys are talking
  3549. Jul 02 21:57:26 <allthefoxes> Trust me, dont make some declaration
  3550. Jul 02 21:57:30 <allthefoxes> I'm basically begging you guys
  3551. Jul 02 21:57:39 <allthefoxes> If you want people to understand, link them to the ootl top post
  3552. Jul 02 21:57:42 <kwiztas> .gis shatter wax
  3553. Jul 02 21:57:43 <gonzobot> (kwiztas) https://www.coloradopotguide.com/media/1024/shatter_300x211.jpg
  3554. Jul 02 21:57:44 <allthefoxes> thats all that needs to be done
  3555. Jul 02 21:58:05 <allthefoxes> making ourselves seem bigger than what we really, are, like we are above users, calling it a declatration, and making it more that a pragraph long
  3556. Jul 02 21:58:11 <TheMentalist> Agreed
  3557. Jul 02 21:58:13 <allthefoxes> will make us look like entitled asses
  3558. Jul 02 21:58:15 <blueshiftlabs> +1
  3559. Jul 02 21:58:16 <Locutus> Agreed.
  3560. Jul 02 21:58:21 <SlyRatchet> agreed
  3561. Jul 02 21:58:24 <XenoBen> but me subs
  3562. Jul 02 21:58:29 <SlyRatchet> I'm making it very short
  3563. Jul 02 21:58:30 <Locutus> Though I think something supplementary to the OOTL post is necessary
  3564. Jul 02 21:58:33 <Locutus> Really
  3565. Jul 02 21:58:40 <allthefoxes> If you want people to understand, the best thing you can do is link to ootl
  3566. Jul 02 21:58:45 <Locutus> Just giving a bit of context, with an outright positive spin
  3567. Jul 02 21:58:49 <Trauermarsch> what the hell is going on o.O
  3568. Jul 02 21:58:49 <allthefoxes> thats fine
  3569. Jul 02 21:58:58 <Trauermarsch> why are so many subs down right now?
  3570. Jul 02 21:59:04 <XenoBen> because memes
  3571. Jul 02 21:59:04 <allthefoxes> but dont call it some declaration, and try to keep it at a paragraph maybe 2
  3572. Jul 02 21:59:08 <Locutus> Trauermarsch: Check SRD
  3573. Jul 02 21:59:12 <blueshiftlabs> Trauermarsch: you've missed quite a lot
  3574. Jul 02 21:59:15 <Trauermarsch> jesus
  3575. Jul 02 21:59:18 <allthefoxes> Trauermarsch, some dank memes melted steal communications
  3576. Jul 02 21:59:21 <Trauermarsch> Why does everything happen
  3577. Jul 02 21:59:24 <allthefoxes> LOL
  3578. Jul 02 21:59:24 <L_Cranston_Shadow> allthefoxes, many mods agree with you I think, but correct me if I’m wrong, not the three that really matter (/r/history, /r/science, and /r/iama), all of whom are really hurt by losing Victoria. Even if it isn’t about Victoria, it seems about the fact that there was no advance notice or fallback to catch their AMAs, which might as well be the same thing.
  3579. Jul 02 21:59:26 <Trauermarsch> when I have little to no internet access :(
  3580. Jul 02 21:59:27 <XenoBen> .gis dankest of the dank
  3581. Jul 02 21:59:27 <kwiztas> omg Trauermarsch
  3582. Jul 02 21:59:27 <gonzobot> (XenoBen) https://i.imgur.com/pH1K1OM.jpg
  3583. Jul 02 21:59:37 <allthefoxes> L_Cranston_Shadow, you are correct
  3584. Jul 02 21:59:37 <blueshiftlabs> tl;dr Victoria got fired, no one in IAmA knew about it, shit hits fan
  3585. Jul 02 21:59:38 <kwiztas> .gis dank wax
  3586. Jul 02 21:59:39 <gonzobot> (kwiztas) http://38.media.tumblr.com/d46b2b610f5a0d05cc9a8a8ca7e3520b/tumblr_n7yjt0Xp5x1r487l7o1_500.jpg
  3587. Jul 02 21:59:42 <Trauermarsch> Victoria?
  3588. Jul 02 21:59:43 <allthefoxes> and that all comes down to an issue of communication
  3589. Jul 02 21:59:47 <allthefoxes> /u/chooter
  3590. Jul 02 21:59:50 <Trauermarsch> Oh the one who transcribes
  3591. Jul 02 21:59:53 <blueshiftlabs> yep
  3592. Jul 02 21:59:53 <allthefoxes> the nice lady that did Iamas with famous people
  3593. Jul 02 21:59:54 <Trauermarsch> And tells celebs how to reddit
  3594. Jul 02 22:00:01 <blueshiftlabs> that's the one
  3595. Jul 02 22:00:06 <Obliviater> she did lammas?
  3596. Jul 02 22:00:10 <Trauermarsch> well no shit they didn't communicate, admins aren't known for doing that
  3597. Jul 02 22:00:15 <kwiztas> Trauermarsch, https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bxjyu/list_of_subreddits_suddenly_going_private/
  3598. Jul 02 22:00:16 <Trauermarsch> but wow
  3599. Jul 02 22:00:16 <gonzobot> (kwiztas) List of subreddits suddenly going private : SubredditDrama - 1,201 comments, 1,271 points - Diotic, 2h ago
  3600. Jul 02 22:00:17 <L_Cranston_Shadow> blueshiftlabs, that is partially their fault for coming to rely on her too much, and arguably with unecessary things that they could have done themselves
  3601. Jul 02 22:00:20 <Trauermarsch> isn't she like, a major part of IAMA?
  3602. Jul 02 22:00:21 <allthefoxes> SlyRatchet, oh and dont call it a declaeation
  3603. Jul 02 22:00:24 <allthefoxes> Trauermarsch, yes
  3604. Jul 02 22:00:24 <alienth> was she fired, or did she just leave? i haven't chatted with her, but I hadn't seen anything concrete one way or the other.
  3605. Jul 02 22:00:32 <kwiztas> we dont' know
  3606. Jul 02 22:00:33 <alienth> mm
  3607. Jul 02 22:00:35 <Trauermarsch> Is there like, a mod-sub post about it?
  3608. Jul 02 22:00:43 <allthefoxes> alienth, no one knows for sure, but, it was very abrupt if she left
  3609. Jul 02 22:00:43 <SlyRatchet> ok guys Key points A) the dismissal of Victoria is the STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK B) REddit's lack of communication and lack of tools makes our moderation bad. C) We love the site but we have to mod aggressively because our tools are bad D) we're doing this to make things better because the admins are ignoring the moderators and therefore ig
  3610. Jul 02 22:00:43 <SlyRatchet> noring the deteriorating quality of our tools
  3611. Jul 02 22:00:46 <Trauermarsch> SRD is somewhat less involved in this
  3612. Jul 02 22:00:46 <kwiztas> tho i have seen things to say she didn't quit
  3613. Jul 02 22:00:48 <kerovon> She did not voluntarily leave. She was apparently completely blindsided by it.
  3614. Jul 02 22:00:48 <kwiztas> can't say where
  3615. Jul 02 22:00:50 <Trauermarsch> I'd like mod views etc
  3616. Jul 02 22:00:58 <allthefoxes> unless it was an emergency alienth, no way she wouldnt have closed ties
  3617. Jul 02 22:01:01 <L_Cranston_Shadow> alienth, some people were saying that she was fired, but there’s a huge lack of proof anywhere. She left, everything beyond that is speculation and odds are it will remain that way
  3618. Jul 02 22:01:02 <Locutus> L_Cranston_Shadow: IAmA is an unusual case - reddit have made it part of their core business, effectively, but not exercised control over it.
  3619. Jul 02 22:01:09 <kwiztas> Trauermarsch, that just has the list of subs that are down
  3620. Jul 02 22:01:09 <SlyRatchet> also, the declaration was a joke because of the 4th of jly
  3621. Jul 02 22:01:11 <L_Cranston_Shadow> neither she nor reddit gain by commenting on her leaving
  3622. Jul 02 22:01:15 <PM> "completely blindside" bullshit
  3623. Jul 02 22:01:15 <Trauermarsch> Ah
  3624. Jul 02 22:01:26 <kwiztas> I didn't want to type them out
  3625. Jul 02 22:01:27 <allthefoxes> PM, how was it not
  3626. Jul 02 22:01:32 <alienth> allthefoxes: eh, i won't assume anything i guess. all that is known is that she is gone.
  3627. Jul 02 22:01:35 <allthefoxes> yes
  3628. Jul 02 22:01:36 <allthefoxes> for sure
  3629. Jul 02 22:01:40 <MillenniumFalc0n> redtaboo: cats++
  3630. Jul 02 22:01:48 <redtaboo> woooooooooooooo
  3631. Jul 02 22:02:10 <xlnqeniuz> chooter++
  3632. Jul 02 22:02:20 <Locutus> SlyRatchet: Liking the key points.
  3633. Jul 02 22:02:21 <PM> you don't get fired this way, and are complete blindside.
  3634. Jul 02 22:02:27 <gorillagnomes> chooter++
  3635. Jul 02 22:02:29 <Trauermarsch> well at least OOTL isn't down
  3636. Jul 02 22:02:40 <gorillagnomes> toolbox++
  3637. Jul 02 22:02:58 <blueshiftlabs> more like toolbox += 5
  3638. Jul 02 22:03:20 <XenoBen> kebab++
  3639. Jul 02 22:04:23 <Ivashkin> the AMAgedon is starting to make the news now
  3640. Jul 02 22:04:32 <Cylon> MillenniumFalc0n sux
  3641. Jul 02 22:04:46 <MillenniumFalc0n> !kick Cylon get the fuck out
  3642. Jul 02 22:04:46 <-- ButtServ has kicked Cylon from #modtalk (get the fuck out (MillenniumFalc0n))
  3643. Jul 02 22:05:09 <blueshiftlabs> wrath of mod
  3644. Jul 02 22:05:22 <Xylan_Treesong> Jeez. That silenced everybody.
  3645. Jul 02 22:05:41 <Cylon> shame shame
  3646. Jul 02 22:05:56 <redtaboo> i support the removal of cylon from everywhere
  3647. Jul 02 22:06:01 * redtaboo sits on Cylon
  3648. Jul 02 22:06:05 <blueshiftlabs> can we use the airlock?
  3649. Jul 02 22:06:06 <xlnqeniuz> music, LPT, docu's all just went down
  3650. Jul 02 22:06:10 <redtaboo> fak
  3651. Jul 02 22:06:13 * spiders crawl all over you
  3652. Jul 02 22:06:18 * redtaboo steps on spiders
  3653. Jul 02 22:06:22 * spiders die
  3654. Jul 02 22:06:27 <redtaboo> yay!
  3655. Jul 02 22:06:46 <spiders> https://i.imgur.com/lb80Mnz.png
  3656. Jul 02 22:07:00 <XenoBen> cylon, what are those corner spiders called
  3657. Jul 02 22:07:08 <XenoBen> ones that chill in a corner of a room
  3658. Jul 02 22:07:10 <spiders> pholcus phalangiodes
  3659. Jul 02 22:07:12 <XenoBen> then disappear the next day
  3660. Jul 02 22:07:18 <blueshiftlabs> XenoBen: they're called NOOOOOOPE
  3661. Jul 02 22:07:32 <XenoBen> what do they do
  3662. Jul 02 22:08:03 <spiders> you mean these guys? http://bugguide.net/node/view/1037340/bgimage
  3663. Jul 02 22:08:09 <Locutus> stop
  3664. Jul 02 22:08:10 <Locutus> why
  3665. Jul 02 22:08:12 <alienth> MillenniumFalc0n: i guess this is a good month for SRD
  3666. Jul 02 22:08:27 <MillenniumFalc0n> there's just something about June
  3667. Jul 02 22:08:31 <XenoBen> YE
  3668. Jul 02 22:08:34 <XenoBen> whoops caps
  3669. Jul 02 22:08:35 <alienth> it's July now
  3670. Jul 02 22:08:40 <spiders> or depending on where you live maybe you're talking about tegenaria domesticas
  3671. Jul 02 22:08:41 <stopscopiesme> alienth: honestly it is a fucking pain in the ass for us to deal with this extra traffic and the hordes of people who don’t know our rules
  3672. Jul 02 22:08:43 <gilgamesh> Modth of July
  3673. Jul 02 22:08:49 <MillenniumFalc0n> eh, may may june drama from last year spilled into july right?
  3674. Jul 02 22:08:56 <stopscopiesme> I think so
  3675. Jul 02 22:09:00 <spiders> XenoBen, they're fantastic hunters
  3676. Jul 02 22:09:00 <TenthTARDIS> Okay
  3677. Jul 02 22:09:01 <TenthTARDIS> So
  3678. Jul 02 22:09:05 <XenoBen> first one spiders
  3679. Jul 02 22:09:08 <Locutus> may may 2015
  3680. Jul 02 22:09:08 <gilgamesh> Yea it did
  3681. Jul 02 22:09:09 <TenthTARDIS> I've been away from everything today
  3682. Jul 02 22:09:10 <spiders> they even catch other spiders
  3683. Jul 02 22:09:17 <TenthTARDIS> And I come back
  3684. Jul 02 22:09:18 <XenoBen> long legs, really small bodies
  3685. Jul 02 22:09:19 <spiders> they've been known to prey on brown recluses
  3686. Jul 02 22:09:25 <TenthTARDIS> And LNM is talking about going dark
  3687. Jul 02 22:09:26 <alienth> stopscopiesme: mm... sounds like a reason to go private!
  3688. Jul 02 22:09:31 <alienth> ;)
  3689. Jul 02 22:09:34 <TenthTARDIS> And Victoria was fired
  3690. Jul 02 22:09:39 <TenthTARDIS> WHAT IS GOING ON
  3691. Jul 02 22:09:46 <XenoBen> i never see them do anything, just chill
  3692. Jul 02 22:09:49 <stopscopiesme> hahahaha, I wonder what other poor subreddit would get flooded if we went private. r/outoftheloop?
  3693. Jul 02 22:09:51 <MillenniumFalc0n> but then there would be an expose on subredditcancer about how we're int he admin's pockets
  3694. Jul 02 22:09:52 <alienth> stopscopiesme: i've always appreciated SRD's general ability to see drama for what it is (in most cases)
  3695. Jul 02 22:09:57 <MillenniumFalc0n> and who wants to give them more ammunition
  3696. Jul 02 22:09:59 <spiders> well yeah that's what they do
  3697. Jul 02 22:10:01 <spiders> they sit
  3698. Jul 02 22:10:05 <spiders> and their webs catch stuff
  3699. Jul 02 22:10:19 <Locutus> i'm sat at 3AM looking at pictures of spiders
  3700. Jul 02 22:10:24 <Locutus> what has gone wrong with my life
  3701. Jul 02 22:10:25 <XenoBen> i dont like the big house spiders
  3702. Jul 02 22:10:26 <werner__herzog> .mods stopscopiesme
  3703. Jul 02 22:10:26 <gonzobot> (werner__herzog) Sorry r/stopscopiesme is set to private and I cannot access it.
  3704. Jul 02 22:10:34 <SlyRatchet> Locutus Don't dis it. This is a wonderful time to be alive
  3705. Jul 02 22:10:35 <werner__herzog> @mods stopscopiesme
  3706. Jul 02 22:10:35 <gonzobot> (werner__herzog) Sorry r/stopscopiesme is set to private and I cannot access it.
  3707. Jul 02 22:10:40 <stopscopiesme> I had to remove like 20 shitposts today about the situation. when there’s metadrama we like people to make writeups instead of just fucking linking to private subreddits. it preserves the drama better
  3708. Jul 02 22:10:40 <werner__herzog> ...
  3709. Jul 02 22:10:41 <MillenniumFalc0n> @mods stopscopiesmesux
  3710. Jul 02 22:10:41 <gonzobot> (MillenniumFalc0n) r/stopscopiesmesux mod
  3711. Jul 02 22:10:49 <MillenniumFalc0n> wat
  3712. Jul 02 22:11:03 <werner__herzog> stopscopiesme: we have already 35k people in the sub right now
  3713. Jul 02 22:11:09 <GodOfAtheism> stopcopiesme https://www.reddit.com/message/messages/3pc3di
  3714. Jul 02 22:11:15 <MillenniumFalc0n> stopscopiesme: though I do feel pretty bad that our top ranked post has a pretty serious error in the title
  3715. Jul 02 22:11:15 <spiders> XenoBen, by house spiders you mean these guys? http://bugguide.net/node/view/1058702/bgimage
  3716. Jul 02 22:11:16 * MillenniumFalc0n sad face
  3717. Jul 02 22:11:18 <werner__herzog> our stickie is #1 on r/all
  3718. Jul 02 22:11:29 <stopscopiesme> oh my God, your modqueue must be awful
  3719. Jul 02 22:11:29 <XenoBen> yeeeee
  3720. Jul 02 22:11:34 <Obliviater> You nerds wanna see our traffic in /r/OOTL? lol
  3721. Jul 02 22:11:37 <spiders> completely harmless
  3722. Jul 02 22:11:39 <Obliviater> The numbers are really funny
  3723. Jul 02 22:11:40 <werner__herzog> AM is taking care of it
  3724. Jul 02 22:11:44 <XenoBen> they are really fast though
  3725. Jul 02 22:11:46 <blueshiftlabs> Obliviater: how bad?
  3726. Jul 02 22:11:46 <MillenniumFalc0n> !readers outoftheloop
  3727. Jul 02 22:11:46 <redditBot> r/outoftheloop has 250,910 readers
  3728. Jul 02 22:11:47 <XenoBen> like really fast
  3729. Jul 02 22:11:47 <spiders> yes!
  3730. Jul 02 22:11:51 <MillenniumFalc0n> !readers subredditdrama
  3731. Jul 02 22:11:51 <redditBot> r/subredditdrama has 183,990 readers
  3732. Jul 02 22:11:52 <CosmicKeys> OOTL vs SRD, battle to the death
  3733. Jul 02 22:11:53 <werner__herzog> just the occasional angry mail
  3734. Jul 02 22:11:53 <MillenniumFalc0n> god damn it
  3735. Jul 02 22:11:55 <spiders> i guess you're from the west coast?
  3736. Jul 02 22:12:00 <XenoBen> im uk
  3737. Jul 02 22:12:01 * MillenniumFalc0n slaps outoftheloop around a bit with a large trout
  3738. Jul 02 22:12:03 <spiders> ohhhhh
  3739. Jul 02 22:12:05 <Obliviater> http://i.imgur.com/Y82juTs.png
  3740. Jul 02 22:12:08 <spiders> yeah, they're transplants
  3741. Jul 02 22:12:09 <allthefoxes> LETS DANCE
  3742. Jul 02 22:12:12 <allthefoxes> .l
  3743. Jul 02 22:12:13 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) allthefoxes is listening to "Find That Someone (feat. Richard Judge)" by Televisor http://is.gd/nK0vcG.
  3744. Jul 02 22:12:17 <spiders> really heavy in our pacific northwest
  3745. Jul 02 22:12:20 <CosmicKeys> r/videos going private, ouch
  3746. Jul 02 22:12:25 * allthefoxes 0-|-<
  3747. Jul 02 22:12:26 <CosmicKeys> Maybe it's just me liking r/videos
  3748. Jul 02 22:12:29 <blueshiftlabs> Obliviater: jfc
  3749. Jul 02 22:12:34 * allthefoxes 0-/-<
  3750. Jul 02 22:12:40 * allthefoxes 0-\-<
  3751. Jul 02 22:12:52 <Obliviater> Yeah that kinda sucks @cosmickeys
  3752. Jul 02 22:13:08 <stopscopiesme> whoa MillenniumFalc0n over 13k readers in SRD
  3753. Jul 02 22:13:09 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: someday, I'll be rich and famous when I invent a device that lets you stab people over the Internet.
  3754. Jul 02 22:13:17 <stopscopiesme> no wonder modqueue has been such shit
  3755. Jul 02 22:13:30 <allthefoxes> your references are out off control dude
  3756. Jul 02 22:13:31 <allthefoxes> wow
  3757. Jul 02 22:13:47 <SlyRatchet> POkay
  3758. Jul 02 22:13:47 <SlyRatchet> guys
  3759. Jul 02 22:13:50 <SlyRatchet> how about this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AmZVV7i0aWfDnzyrFlPVBRpl5SUojlhUvb5COElZIYU/edit
  3760. Jul 02 22:14:00 <spiders> SlyRatchet, needs more spiders
  3761. Jul 02 22:14:03 <spiders> :spider:
  3762. Jul 02 22:14:20 <XenoBen> spiders: what are the spiders that are only really outside, small circle bodies and 7ish legs. just spread out on a wall
  3763. Jul 02 22:14:23 <kwiztas> blueshiftlabs, wouldn't the stabee have to also buy the device?
  3764. Jul 02 22:14:24 <SlyRatchet> You can sign your username at the bottom when it's done, then it will have precisely one spider
  3765. Jul 02 22:14:34 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: cool song though
  3766. Jul 02 22:14:36 <spiders> um
  3767. Jul 02 22:14:37 <geraldo> that is poorely written
  3768. Jul 02 22:14:42 <allthefoxes> yeah
  3769. Jul 02 22:14:44 <allthefoxes> not signing that shit
  3770. Jul 02 22:14:48 <geraldo> and phrasing it as a list of demands is absurd
  3771. Jul 02 22:14:49 <XenoBen> like corner spiders
  3772. Jul 02 22:14:50 <allthefoxes> sorry for calling it shit
  3773. Jul 02 22:14:52 <allthefoxes> but
  3774. Jul 02 22:14:53 <allthefoxes> yeah
  3775. Jul 02 22:15:01 <allthefoxes> definitely not
  3776. Jul 02 22:15:06 <SlyRatchet> what's wrong with it now?
  3777. Jul 02 22:15:07 <blueshiftlabs> list of demands?
  3778. Jul 02 22:15:07 <stopscopiesme> I didn’t think it was that bad
  3779. Jul 02 22:15:14 <allthefoxes> firstly
  3780. Jul 02 22:15:14 <SlyRatchet> It's shorter and less dramatic
  3781. Jul 02 22:15:15 <blueshiftlabs> the *last* thing we want people to think
  3782. Jul 02 22:15:15 <spiders> XenoBen, i'm better with north american spiders
  3783. Jul 02 22:15:19 <allthefoxes> stop calling it a freking declaration
  3784. Jul 02 22:15:20 <nty> Word of the day is: "Solidarity"
  3785. Jul 02 22:15:21 <blueshiftlabs> is that we're taking our subs hostage
  3786. Jul 02 22:15:24 <allthefoxes> it doesnt need a preamble
  3787. Jul 02 22:15:27 <allthefoxes> it doesnt need that
  3788. Jul 02 22:15:30 <SolarAquarion> spiders: pls
  3789. Jul 02 22:15:32 <allthefoxes> we dont need to list our demands
  3790. Jul 02 22:15:32 <multi-mod> I'm more of the occupy wallstreet camp, just watch the world burn
  3791. Jul 02 22:15:35 <geraldo> everything is wrong with it
  3792. Jul 02 22:15:35 <allthefoxes> any of that
  3793. Jul 02 22:15:40 <CosmicKeys> I like it SlyRatchet
  3794. Jul 02 22:15:42 <geraldo> allthefoxes is pretty on it though
  3795. Jul 02 22:15:42 <SolarAquarion> Nty FOREVER
  3796. Jul 02 22:15:49 <allthefoxes> The "demands" have nbeen pretty clear in defaultmods
  3797. Jul 02 22:15:52 <blueshiftlabs> we should ask for a million dollars and a helicopter while we're at it.
  3798. Jul 02 22:15:54 <SolarAquarion> @yt solidarity forever
  3799. Jul 02 22:15:55 <gonzobot> (SolarAquarion) Solidarity Forever (Pete Seeger) - length 3m - 1,317 likes, 48 dislikes (96.5%) - 217,626 views - EmberNews on 2010.12.03 - http://youtu.be/pCnEAH5wCzo
  3800. Jul 02 22:16:01 <allthefoxes> We need better communication and some promise of modtools in the future
  3801. Jul 02 22:16:02 <xlnqeniuz> TIL down
  3802. Jul 02 22:16:07 <allthefoxes> really just better communication
  3803. Jul 02 22:16:12 <kwiztas> ^
  3804. Jul 02 22:16:13 <kwiztas> ^
  3805. Jul 02 22:16:13 <CosmicKeys> SlyRatchet: I'd just remove the recommendations, they already know what we want
  3806. Jul 02 22:16:13 <kwiztas> ^
  3807. Jul 02 22:16:13 <XenoBen> .gis outdoor wall spider uk
  3808. Jul 02 22:16:14 <allthefoxes> thats literally all there is to it right now
  3809. Jul 02 22:16:14 <gonzobot> (XenoBen) http://i.stack.imgur.com/ghasV.jpg
  3810. Jul 02 22:16:19 <nty> forever indeed
  3811. Jul 02 22:16:23 <SolarAquarion> @g lyrics solidarity forever
  3812. Jul 02 22:16:24 <gonzobot> (SolarAquarion) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_Forever -- Solidarity Forever - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "Lyrics[edit]. When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run,: There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun; ..."
  3813. Jul 02 22:16:29 <XenoBen> nope
  3814. Jul 02 22:16:31 <allthefoxes> blueshiftlabs, listen to this:
  3815. Jul 02 22:16:32 <allthefoxes> .l
  3816. Jul 02 22:16:33 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) allthefoxes is listening to "The Difference Between Us and the Aliens" by Stephen Walking http://is.gd/cNKnoM.
  3817. Jul 02 22:16:54 <spiders> legs all spread out, not in a web, just sitting on a wall?
  3818. Jul 02 22:16:57 <geraldo> if you guys post that acting like it represents all the moderators of reddit you're actually assholes
  3819. Jul 02 22:17:02 <SlyRatchet> A) I think it needs a preamble because we need to explain to people what we're doing and why. B) I think we need a list of recommendations which can actually be fulfilled because otherwise there's no unified vision. Sure, they have *general* ideas, but nothing concrete
  3820. Jul 02 22:17:04 <XenoBen> yhe
  3821. Jul 02 22:17:05 <geraldo> that makes mods look terrible and whiny
  3822. Jul 02 22:17:14 <XenoBen> a strange spider/bug thing
  3823. Jul 02 22:17:19 <geraldo> "The unanimous Declaration of the United Moderators of Reddit "
  3824. Jul 02 22:17:19 <TheMentalist> Are there any AskReddit or IAmA mods online on here, please?
  3825. Jul 02 22:17:21 <SlyRatchet> I'm not doing that. I'm hoping to send it round to people for approval
  3826. Jul 02 22:17:27 <geraldo> i actually can't tell if you're trolling or not with that title
  3827. Jul 02 22:17:28 <SlyRatchet> Oh gosh that was a joke!
  3828. Jul 02 22:17:30 <Obliviater> .mods askreddit
  3829. Jul 02 22:17:30 <SlyRatchet> Im removing it
  3830. Jul 02 22:17:30 <gonzobot> (Obliviater) Sorry r/askreddit is set to private and I cannot access it.
  3831. Jul 02 22:17:33 <Obliviater> erp
  3832. Jul 02 22:17:37 <Obliviater> I forgot that doesn't work
  3833. Jul 02 22:17:51 <Xylan_Treesong> If you're going to actually post it, you should have a list of co-signing moderators or subs at the bottom
  3834. Jul 02 22:17:52 <SlyRatchet> There. Gone
  3835. Jul 02 22:18:00 <spiders> some sort of dolomedes? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolomedes
  3836. Jul 02 22:18:05 <SlyRatchet> xylan_Treesong that's exactly the idea!!!
  3837. Jul 02 22:18:06 <allthefoxes> !mods outoftheloop
  3838. Jul 02 22:18:06 <redditBot> r/outoftheloop has 25 mods: MrWittyResponse, AdvocateForLucifer, T_Dumbsford, tara1, Rountree1, livefreeordont, ManWithoutModem, K_Lobstah, vxx, Kijafa, Diptura, pyrowolf8, I_Miss_Claire, splattypus, Werner__Herzog, ZMush, PanicOnFunkotron, TortoiseSex, RicoVig, DERPYBASTARD, cupcake1713, OBLIVIATER, cat_sweaterz, loyalcynic, and Gilgamesh-
  3839. Jul 02 22:18:07 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: found something to add to the list of things I listen to at work
  3840. Jul 02 22:18:09 <spiders> i can't think of anything with 7 legs though
  3841. Jul 02 22:18:10 <allthefoxes> please pao this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bxduw/why_was_riama_along_with_a_number_of_other_large/csqkspo
  3842. Jul 02 22:18:11 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) Why was /r/IAmA, along with a number of other large subreddits, made... : OutOfTheLoop - 1,956 comments, 5,412 points - Gilgamesh-, 3h ago
  3843. Jul 02 22:18:15 <allthefoxes> hes harassing me
  3844. Jul 02 22:18:16 <geraldo> my advice would be make it entirely all concrete suggestions
  3845. Jul 02 22:18:19 <XenoBen> spiders: http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/2010/09/05/Marz2292/473579.jpg
  3846. Jul 02 22:18:21 <XenoBen> like that
  3847. Jul 02 22:18:29 <spiders> oh
  3848. Jul 02 22:18:34 <Obliviater> Uh
  3849. Jul 02 22:18:34 <spiders> that's an opilionid
  3850. Jul 02 22:18:38 <Obliviater> one sec @allthefoxes
  3851. Jul 02 22:18:39 <Xylan_Treesong> Okay. I'm only about half here, so ignore me if I'm repeating. The reason not to is that otherwise mods have to pick a side, and that is bad for everybody.
  3852. Jul 02 22:18:53 <spiders> in the US we call them daddy long legs, which is what you guys call cellar spiders
  3853. Jul 02 22:18:54 <Obliviater> Ok its gone
  3854. Jul 02 22:18:56 <PM> even the starcitizen subreddit is private, oh for fuck sake I'm just going to log off. maybe this bull shit is over by tomorrow.
  3855. Jul 02 22:18:56 <ManWithoutModem> what allthefoxes
  3856. Jul 02 22:18:57 <ManWithoutModem> hi
  3857. Jul 02 22:19:05 <allthefoxes> lol PM
  3858. Jul 02 22:19:15 <XenoBen> daddy long legs have wings?
  3859. Jul 02 22:19:23 <allthefoxes> blueshiftlabs, you should be way more up with Monstercat
  3860. Jul 02 22:19:27 <allthefoxes> one of the best labels out there
  3861. Jul 02 22:19:29 <XenoBen> oh thats crane fly
  3862. Jul 02 22:19:29 <gilgamesh> Gotim foxes
  3863. Jul 02 22:19:30 <XenoBen> nvm
  3864. Jul 02 22:19:32 <spiders> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opiliones
  3865. Jul 02 22:19:32 <Ivashkin> yeah, that's how they get in places
  3866. Jul 02 22:19:38 <allthefoxes> music is all free to listen to online
  3867. Jul 02 22:19:43 <allthefoxes> @g monstercat
  3868. Jul 02 22:19:44 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) https://www.monstercat.com/ -- Monstercat: "We are proving that independent labels have the ability to reshape the music industry landscape, while supporting up and coming musicians."
  3869. Jul 02 22:19:58 <erikster> anything try highlighting alienth yet?
  3870. Jul 02 22:20:05 <spiders> he's here erikster
  3871. Jul 02 22:20:07 <XenoBen> that be all my spider questions answered for today
  3872. Jul 02 22:20:10 <allthefoxes> https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/3bxtca/dear_reddit_we_liked_victoria/csqkxfl?context=3
  3873. Jul 02 22:20:11 <alienth> erikster: i've been around
  3874. Jul 02 22:20:11 <allthefoxes> wow lol
  3875. Jul 02 22:20:19 <alienth> erikster: i can't really do much to assist, tho
  3876. Jul 02 22:20:20 <spiders> lol
  3877. Jul 02 22:20:27 <erikster> alienth, oh i know
  3878. Jul 02 22:20:35 <erikster> i was just curious to hear your PoV
  3879. Jul 02 22:20:39 <alienth> mm
  3880. Jul 02 22:20:42 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: I'll have to give them a listen
  3881. Jul 02 22:20:43 <CosmicKeys> Shut down reddit in protest of yourself
  3882. Jul 02 22:20:51 <allthefoxes> blueshiftlabs, monstercat is the label :)
  3883. Jul 02 22:20:52 <XenoBen> close reddit!11!!!1!
  3884. Jul 02 22:20:58 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: shared office, have to drown out my officemates somehow :)
  3885. Jul 02 22:21:04 <CosmicKeys> The work of a political mastermind
  3886. Jul 02 22:21:17 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: by "them", I mean "that label's artists"
  3887. Jul 02 22:21:20 <multi-mod> https://youtu.be/Aor6-DkzBJ0?t=54s
  3888. Jul 02 22:21:20 <alienth> erikster: will paste some of my earlier comments (but be aware they may be missing relevant context from the discussion surrounding them)
  3889. Jul 02 22:21:21 <gonzobot> (multi-mod) Morehouse College - We Shall Overcome - length 4m 11s - 1,708 likes, 63 dislikes (96.4%) - 439,756 views - Kortland Whalum on 2009.06.26
  3890. Jul 02 22:21:22 <allthefoxes> oh okay :)
  3891. Jul 02 22:21:27 <erikster> sure sure
  3892. Jul 02 22:21:32 <geraldo> i think at this point we have to assume she did something really dumb
  3893. Jul 02 22:21:40 <erikster> you know you don't need to
  3894. Jul 02 22:21:52 <multi-mod> I don't even think 99% of the people care about chooter, they just want to complain about the admins
  3895. Jul 02 22:21:53 <werner__herzog> allthefoxes: now he's spamming modmail, thanks
  3896. Jul 02 22:22:07 <x316nuts> Rabble rabble rabble
  3897. Jul 02 22:22:11 <allthefoxes> KEK
  3898. Jul 02 22:22:14 <SlyRatchet> Hey guys, what did the version of the "list of recommendations" that you see look like?
  3899. Jul 02 22:22:24 <SlyRatchet> was it a bullet pointed explanation?
  3900. Jul 02 22:22:31 * x316nuts shakes angry fist
  3901. Jul 02 22:22:45 <erikster> this has been building up for a while, i think
  3902. Jul 02 22:22:49 <XenoBen> .gis man yells at clouds
  3903. Jul 02 22:22:50 <gonzobot> (XenoBen) https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/a2/de/19/a2de196149997cedc24a1dcef37e862b.jpg
  3904. Jul 02 22:23:00 <alienth> "<alienth> to be non-silly for a moment: I'm kinda on the outside from all of the happenings. All I can do is encourage folks to think about what blackouts are working to accomplish. One thing I'm sure y'all are aware of is that the non-mod community is a party in this whole plot as well. The pendulum can easily shift when a mob is formed :/"
  3905. Jul 02 22:23:07 <x316nuts> I recommend all of my shitty ideas are implemented
  3906. Jul 02 22:23:20 <XenoBen> i agree
  3907. Jul 02 22:23:24 <alienth> "<alienth> this type of situation has no 'solution'. it only has an outcome. the outcome remains to be seen. i can't iamgine it being positive, tho."
  3908. Jul 02 22:23:34 <alienth> erikster: that kinda covers the majority of my thoughts
  3909. Jul 02 22:23:35 <Locutus> ^^^^^^^^
  3910. Jul 02 22:23:45 <x316nuts> But all the kids want a riot
  3911. Jul 02 22:23:48 <XenoBen> How long until admin blog post
  3912. Jul 02 22:23:51 <multi-mod> alienth, I think we just want to squeeze the admins for a bit of jolly good rabble rousing for a bit
  3913. Jul 02 22:23:52 <x316nuts> And attention
  3914. Jul 02 22:23:53 <Ivashkin> all default mods replaced with people in a contact center in Utah?
  3915. Jul 02 22:23:53 <SlyRatchet> Change is a process. It has no end point. We can hope to nudge it in the right direction
  3916. Jul 02 22:23:55 <x316nuts> Wat do
  3917. Jul 02 22:24:11 <erikster> there's literally nothing the admins could do right now to "fix" this
  3918. Jul 02 22:24:19 <XenoBen> ban the mods
  3919. Jul 02 22:24:20 <erikster> best move is to shut up for a week
  3920. Jul 02 22:24:23 <werner__herzog> https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riama_set_to_private_over_mod_firing/csqg24d?context=3
  3921. Jul 02 22:24:43 <spiders> erikster, they could do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZvbCgnCJoA
  3922. Jul 02 22:24:43 <gonzobot> (spiders) Assuming Direct Control - length 4s - 37 likes, 1 dislike (97.4%) - 5,473 views - DovidDovidson on 2011.04.16
  3923. Jul 02 22:24:48 <werner__herzog> L M A O
  3924. Jul 02 22:25:04 <erikster> werner__herzog, seriously, not a smart move on his part
  3925. Jul 02 22:25:17 <Locutus> erikster: They could make a blog post stating that they intend to work on it, and request that mods work with them in a serious dialogue about how they can improve the site - I mean, literally any action would satisfy most
  3926. Jul 02 22:25:20 <werner__herzog> but a hilarious one
  3927. Jul 02 22:25:31 <erikster> truth
  3928. Jul 02 22:25:32 <x316nuts> If everyone would take a deep breath, remember that no one at all cares about you or your ego and opinion, and remember that we're all here to serve the community even at times of petulant uprising
  3929. Jul 02 22:25:36 <x316nuts> That would be nice
  3930. Jul 02 22:25:45 <geraldo> it's probably best to let it go on for a bit until everyone calms down
  3931. Jul 02 22:25:51 <x316nuts> Because shut up
  3932. Jul 02 22:25:58 <erikster> fourth of july will distract everyone
  3933. Jul 02 22:26:03 <multi-mod> x316nuts, thankfully my tortured students have to care about my opinion of them
  3934. Jul 02 22:26:06 <geraldo> if i were them i wouldn't make a post at least until tomorrow
  3935. Jul 02 22:26:07 <erikster> fireworks to get their minds off things
  3936. Jul 02 22:26:25 <x316nuts> No one even reads the fucking sidebar
  3937. Jul 02 22:26:32 <XenoBen> bah its 3:30am
  3938. Jul 02 22:26:40 <blueshiftlabs> x316nuts: no one ever has, no one ever will
  3939. Jul 02 22:26:42 <Locutus> XenoBen: casual.
  3940. Jul 02 22:26:48 <XenoBen> fuk u
  3941. Jul 02 22:26:51 <x316nuts> And here we are knuckle deep in our own assholes feeling important
  3942. Jul 02 22:26:52 <XenoBen> 1v1
  3943. Jul 02 22:26:53 <XenoBen> rust
  3944. Jul 02 22:26:57 <x316nuts> Get over yourself
  3945. Jul 02 22:27:15 <x316nuts> No one cares about your leadership
  3946. Jul 02 22:27:16 <Ivashkin> I had "mime artists are strictly forbidden" in the sidebar rules, took months before someone asked why it was there
  3947. Jul 02 22:27:50 <Locutus> x316nuts: I don't think many people are *that* up themselves, in fairness - I don't expect this fuss will last more than a day or so.
  3948. Jul 02 22:27:58 <x316nuts> No one cares about your css or contests or rules. They just showed up along the way and here we are
  3949. Jul 02 22:27:58 <SlyRatchet> hehe. At this point the rules are more like manifestos which people use to hold moderator's to account, rather than things they actually read
  3950. Jul 02 22:28:12 <Ivashkin> x316nuts, you are right.
  3951. Jul 02 22:28:20 <x316nuts> We.
  3952. Jul 02 22:28:35 <JustPassingThrough> x316nuts so i take it your cat sub will stay up
  3953. Jul 02 22:28:59 <multi-mod> such anger, many expletives, wow
  3954. Jul 02 22:29:01 <x316nuts> We rub ourselves raw telling each other how important we are but NO ONE CARES
  3955. Jul 02 22:29:25 <sarahbotts> >We rub ourselves raw
  3956. Jul 02 22:29:30 <sarahbotts> I mean what you do in private...
  3957. Jul 02 22:29:32 <x316nuts> Jpt I'll shoe horn my cats in somewhere
  3958. Jul 02 22:30:17 <tizorres> we use live for stuff now
  3959. Jul 02 22:30:18 <XenoBen> fucking /r/fallout has gone dark
  3960. Jul 02 22:30:19 <tizorres> heh
  3961. Jul 02 22:30:20 <tizorres> https://www.reddit.com/live/v6d0vi6c8veb
  3962. Jul 02 22:30:54 <allthefoxes> holy fucking siht
  3963. Jul 02 22:30:54 <allthefoxes> fuck
  3964. Jul 02 22:30:55 <allthefoxes> admins
  3965. Jul 02 22:31:00 <SlyRatchet> x316nuts where are you getting this idea that we're all up ourselves? People have just been discussing what they would like to happen, and being surprised by how much people have done
  3966. Jul 02 22:31:04 <allthefoxes> please let us block people from modmail
  3967. Jul 02 22:31:08 <x316nuts> All the mods get to categorically ignore users and we call ourselves heroes for ignoring idiots
  3968. Jul 02 22:31:26 <x316nuts> Admins ignore us and OH SHIT REVOLT
  3969. Jul 02 22:31:54 <Locutus> x316nuts: True. But on the flipside, we're the ones that have to deal with mountains of reddit's work for them - asking for better mod tools in *some* way isn't a bad thing. Not sure piggybacking off the blackouts are necessarily the best way of doing that, but it's really needed- we're all volunteers, and it's not much to ask for a little bit more
  3970. Jul 02 22:31:54 <Locutus> communication on the state of the things we need to do our jobs.
  3971. Jul 02 22:31:54 <allthefoxes> it just goes on and on and on https://www.allthefoxes.me/img/31-kGsmNko2.png
  3972. Jul 02 22:32:14 <Locutus> totally don't think this should go on for more than a single day, though
  3973. Jul 02 22:32:17 <allthefoxes> x316nuts, youre taking a very nihilistic approach here
  3974. Jul 02 22:32:20 <XenoBen> even netsec is even off
  3975. Jul 02 22:32:22 <XenoBen> god dammit
  3976. Jul 02 22:32:23 <Locutus> that'd just be screwing everyone.
  3977. Jul 02 22:32:29 <x316nuts> Duh
  3978. Jul 02 22:32:32 <ManWithoutModem> x316nuts, you act like these are one off things
  3979. Jul 02 22:32:42 <x316nuts> I'm drunk and mouthy
  3980. Jul 02 22:32:48 <werner__herzog> https://i.imgur.com/FZ7fxk9.png
  3981. Jul 02 22:32:49 <gilgamesh> Allthefoxes
  3982. Jul 02 22:32:50 <spiders> x316nuts, what are you drinking?
  3983. Jul 02 22:32:55 <gilgamesh> He's doj g the same thing with us
  3984. Jul 02 22:33:03 <SolarAquarion> Locutus: reddit doesn't know the scale needed to treat mods as people
  3985. Jul 02 22:33:06 <allthefoxes> woo
  3986. Jul 02 22:33:10 <SolarAquarion> WE NEED TO UNIONIZE
  3987. Jul 02 22:33:12 <x316nuts> Finished a 19% beer
  3988. Jul 02 22:33:19 <spiders> was it an IPA
  3989. Jul 02 22:33:24 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: what do you use for that image uploader?
  3990. Jul 02 22:33:30 <teaearlgraycold> SolarAquarion, YES
  3991. Jul 02 22:33:31 <x316nuts> And Fuck ya'll. I mean that in a nice way but Jesus
  3992. Jul 02 22:33:35 <x316nuts> No one cares
  3993. Jul 02 22:33:35 <teaearlgraycold> DEFAULT MOD UNION
  3994. Jul 02 22:33:43 <x316nuts> No it was a barrel aged stout
  3995. Jul 02 22:33:49 <spiders> D:
  3996. Jul 02 22:33:51 <spiders> jealous
  3997. Jul 02 22:33:52 <blueshiftlabs> what's it called?
  3998. Jul 02 22:33:56 <SolarAquarion> teaearlgraycold: International Mods of the World
  3999. Jul 02 22:34:05 <x316nuts> My beer? Chocolate rain
  4000. Jul 02 22:34:08 <Ivashkin> you know, I'm really not sure how fucked I am about being a moderator anymore. The original reason I started to use reddit was because it was the only site my shitty call center job didn't block, now it's a job
  4001. Jul 02 22:34:10 <stopscopiesme> my biggest gripe is that we are supposed to enforce reddit’s rules, and report stuff we can’t deal with to the admins, and then they don’t answer us
  4002. Jul 02 22:34:11 <allthefoxes> blueshiftlabs, Screencloud
  4003. Jul 02 22:34:11 <spiders> where do you get these ridiculous ABV stouts man
  4004. Jul 02 22:34:12 <Locutus> werner__herzog: ffs
  4005. Jul 02 22:34:31 <x316nuts> Admins want us to do our own shit
  4006. Jul 02 22:34:42 <x316nuts> And we do
  4007. Jul 02 22:34:52 <Foamed> I'd do your shit
  4008. Jul 02 22:34:57 <x316nuts> Wink wink
  4009. Jul 02 22:35:00 <Foamed> ;)
  4010. Jul 02 22:35:04 <blueshiftlabs> allthefoxes: danke, been looking for useful shit to put on my server
  4011. Jul 02 22:35:06 <SolarAquarion> GENERAL STRIKE
  4012. Jul 02 22:35:13 <XenoBen> so when will subs reopen?
  4013. Jul 02 22:35:20 <blueshiftlabs> NEVAR!!!!1!
  4014. Jul 02 22:35:21 <SlyRatchet> Ivashkin if you feel as though moderating is interfering with your life, then your life comes first
  4015. Jul 02 22:35:41 <Locutus> XenoBen: Probably within 12 hours, worst of worst cases. Past that, it starts getting a bit silly.
  4016. Jul 02 22:35:52 <Ivashkin> it's not so much that it's interfering with my life, it's that it's interfering with my redditing
  4017. Jul 02 22:35:55 <XenoBen> one my my subs i use for news has closed
  4018. Jul 02 22:35:57 <Foamed> the worst thing that can happen is that people will realize that there's life outside reddit
  4019. Jul 02 22:36:01 <SolarAquarion> NO WAR BUT CLASS WAR
  4020. Jul 02 22:36:03 <XenoBen> and i need that news for work
  4021. Jul 02 22:36:13 <blueshiftlabs> Foamed: what if /r/outside shuts down? what then?!?
  4022. Jul 02 22:36:18 <Foamed> D:
  4023. Jul 02 22:36:24 <blueshiftlabs> XenoBen: /r/netsec?
  4024. Jul 02 22:36:29 <XenoBen> ye
  4025. Jul 02 22:36:37 <blueshiftlabs> yeah, that's a bit of a blow
  4026. Jul 02 22:36:42 <SolarAquarion> XenoBen: damn
  4027. Jul 02 22:36:46 <allthefoxes> .l
  4028. Jul 02 22:36:47 <gonzobot> (allthefoxes) allthefoxes is listening to "Bliss" by Insan3lik3 from the album Monstercat 012: Aftermath http://is.gd/N5PQqD.
  4029. Jul 02 22:36:48 <x316nuts> ManWithoutModem: baby I miss you so much how you been what's up how is life sure is some good popcorn to bring you back here
  4030. Jul 02 22:36:54 <SolarAquarion> XenoBen: I love that subreddit
  4031. Jul 02 22:36:57 <tizorres> <allthefoxes> it just goes on and on and on https://www.allthefoxes.me/img/31-kGsmNko2.png we got that in r/tifu as well
  4032. Jul 02 22:36:59 <SolarAquarion> Hi ManWithoutModem
  4033. Jul 02 22:37:18 <SolarAquarion> ManWithoutModem: do you have a BTN or PTP invites?
  4034. Jul 02 22:37:19 <XenoBen> i use it to keep up-to-date on stuff
  4035. Jul 02 22:37:25 <XenoBen> obviously now i cant
  4036. Jul 02 22:37:32 <x_plus_popcorn> oh, apparently one of my subs is going dark
  4037. Jul 02 22:37:37 <SlyRatchet> XenoBen which sub?
  4038. Jul 02 22:37:38 <x316nuts> Then I took an arrow to the knee
  4039. Jul 02 22:37:40 <GodOfAtheism> in not going dark news
  4040. Jul 02 22:37:45 <XenoBen> netsec
  4041. Jul 02 22:37:46 <GodOfAtheism> one of the trackers i use is back up
  4042. Jul 02 22:37:50 <GodOfAtheism> :3
  4043. Jul 02 22:37:57 <ManWithoutModem> yeah SolarAquarion
  4044. Jul 02 22:38:06 <x316nuts> Mwm pls
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