Comsec Data Security, a Houston-based firm recently incorporated by reformed members of the defunct Legion of Doom, counters that the attack is an attempt by competitors to discredit the company. Scott Chasin, a Comsec principal, acknowledged that he and his colleagues surveyed competing firms by posing as prospective customers. But he emphatically denied that the activity included unauthorized access to comuter systems. "It was not a Legion of Doom operation, it was not some big clandestine thing," Chasin said. "It's called shopping for yoour competitors, that's what it's called, competitive shopping, and thats what we did. But some of these consultants that have been in the industry, some of the dinosuars, got upset." To survey the pricing and services offered by its competition, Comsec called security consulting firms around the nation, representing itself as an unrelated company with a hacker problem. They said they were from Landmark Graphics, a real Houston technology company with a real hacker problem - one it didn't know about at the time. They gave out information regarding Landmark's computer system that the company says wasn't publicly available. Chasin said the computer system they described was generic and was drawn from their knowledge of such systems but not from any unauthorized information about Landmark. But Landmark chief financial officer Hardie Morgan questioned the ethics of the Comsec survey, regardless of whether it included hacking. "My thoughts are that in effect they haven't changed their way of doing business," he said. Morgan said Comsec representatives asked security firms to send information, and left a phone number and address. "Most of those firms followed u pand got a constant busy signal," he said. The address was the home of a Comsec principal. But the phone number belonged to Southwestern Bell.