Been reading a lot on suffering and pleasure lately. :lol: The great attraction and the great danger of passion is that it is something outside of oneself, a strong wind from nowhere in the face of which the forest of everyday thought and behavior cannot stand. --Dan Simmons Suffering is not good for the soul, unless it teaches you to stop suffering. -Jane Roberts The only antidote to mental suffering is physical pain. --Karl Marx It is not true that suffering ennobles the character; happiness does that sometimes, but suffering for the most part, makes men petty and vindictive. --W. Somerset Maugham If suffering brings wisdom, I would wish to be less wise. --William Butler Yeats I do not believe that sheer suffering teaches. If suffering alone taught, all the world would be wise, since everyone suffers. To suffering must be added mourning, understanding, patience, love, openness and the willingness to remain vulnerable. --Anne Morrow Lindbergh One declaims endlessly against the passions; one imputes all of man's suffering to them. One forgets that they are also the source of all his pleasures. --Denis Diderot Suffering isn't ennobling, recovery is. --Christian Barnard Do not bite at the bait of pleasure, till you know there is no hook beneath it. --Thomas Jefferson Free will is an illusion. People always choose the perceived path of greatest pleasure. --Scott Adams It is a clear gain to sacrifice pleasure in order to avoid pain. --Arthur Schopenhauer And some unrelated, yet always trusty Crowley: "Stoop down unto the darkly splendid world,