Backstory: After a unfortunate game, TheWarlock lashes out at fabbbyyy for his performance claiming that fabbbyyy wasn't taking the game seriously and "trolling" resulting his team losing. Meteos states that fabbbyyy is simply having a bad game and that at the very least he wasn't blaming anyone as opposed to TheWarlock whom Meteos states as "annoying" for calling out fabbbyyy on his misplays. TheWarlock defends himself by thoroughly analyzing fabbbyyy's misplays, one of which is "flashing into tower dry, and dying". Meteos then tries to explain to TheWarlock that bashing out on his teammates during a game will only lead to putting his teammates on tilt and therefore it is pointless to do so.TheWarlock rebuttals by saying that calling each other out on their mistakes is worthwhile as it allows people to improve off of criticism, however he does understand Meteos's point of view. TheWarlock then begins to lash out on the competitive NA scene as a whole and states that the root of its problems is NA high elo players or mainly "Challenger" level players not taking Solo Q seriously enough, as he soon begins to make a comparison between NA solo Q and KR solo Q. Soon after, TheWarlock begins to discuss with Meteos why he feels that NA Challenger level players should take solo Q more seriously... TheWarlock: with what i do TheWarlock: thats good enough for me C10 Meteos: clearly you dont live a fulfilling life if you're sitting here raging at someone playing badly TheWarlock: i only do that in solo q TheWarlock: maybe i should stop playing league TheWarlock: then C10 Meteos: yeah you probably should TheWarlock: but i really like competing TheWarlock: and league is the most developped skill i have TheWarlock: so i will not quit it anytime soon C10 Meteos: competing is fine C10 Meteos: i like competing too C10 Meteos: but you can do it without being an asshole TheWarlock: ookay TheWarlock: but im sure if u like competing TheWarlock: then u understand TheWarlock: why im upset? TheWarlock: if u played in play offs TheWarlock: and balls didnt talk TheWarlock: he first picks TheWarlock: like TheWarlock: nautilus top TheWarlock: and then buys IE first TheWarlock: and spams laugh TheWarlock: doesnt say anything TheWarlock: and u lose to complexity TheWarlock: 0-3 TheWarlock: because of it TheWarlock: how would u feel? TheWarlock: why doesnt that level of attachment to a singular game C10 Meteos: i'd feel confused at how we are playing complexity in playoffs TheWarlock: translate to solo queue TheWarlock: just a random example man TheWarlock: who cares about col TheWarlock: but what im saying C10 Meteos: it's not even close to a related example TheWarlock: is that everone should be attached TheWarlock: to solo q games TheWarlock: the way they are attached TheWarlock: to real games TheWarlock: that decide their lives TheWarlock: or at least TheWarlock: some sense TheWarlock: of that C10 Meteos: thats just wrong TheWarlock: sure u can play a champ u might not be as comfortable playing in play offs cuz u only have 10 games on them TheWarlock: but u shouldnt first pick ryze jungle TheWarlock: and then say YOLO TheWarlock: and just whatever TheWarlock: why is it wrong? C10 Meteos: you're relating solo queue to playoffs? TheWarlock: no C10 Meteos: playoffs is something we've worked months for C10 Meteos: we play together TheWarlock: i am relating being attached to the result TheWarlock: yes TheWarlock: so do every challenger TheWarlock: they have played for years TheWarlock: why is no one attached TheWarlock: to the result of the game? TheWarlock: whyy doesnt the games matter? C10 Meteos: we get paid to play as a team and we all h ave the same goals which is why we get a long TheWarlock: its just win 1 lose 1 TheWarlock: no one cares TheWarlock: lelelelele TheWarlock: attitude TheWarlock: yes TheWarlock: shouldnt everyone in solo TheWarlock: q TheWarlock: have the same goal TheWarlock: of being good at this game TheWarlock: ? TheWarlock: if u dont care about being good TheWarlock: why are u even playing in this elo TheWarlock: go back to gold and just be a casual TheWarlock: thats how kr solo q is C10 Meteos: not everyone in gold is a casual TheWarlock: everyone in top 500 C10 Meteos: they're just less experienced TheWarlock: no TheWarlock: some of them are more experienced TheWarlock: theres other reasons theyre gold but TheWarlock: what im saying is if u dont care about performing well TheWarlock: and thats not ur goal TheWarlock: and u dont wanna be the best TheWarlock: why are u even in here TheWarlock: this elo should only be for pros TheWarlock: and wannabe pros TheWarlock: and amateurs TheWarlock: this is what it littearly translates to TheWarlock: its even called CHALLENGER TheWarlock: for a fucking reason TheWarlock: but everyone treats it TheWarlock: like its called TheWarlock: mental challenge ur own team C10 Meteos: you're too hot headed to ever make it anywhere as a pro TheWarlock: yes TheWarlock: which is why i am a coach TheWarlock: and not a pro C10 Meteos: who do you coach TheWarlock: an amateur team TheWarlock: that u havent heard of yet cuz its 1 week old TheWarlock: but u will soon TheWarlock: cuz we're stomping CA and XDG in scrims 4 days in C10 Meteos: scrim results dont mean anything TheWarlock: well it means we're not random trolls TheWarlock: or maybe not TheWarlock: but u will soon TheWarlock: i promise u TheWarlock: we have 2 korean challengers TheWarlock: that are top 50 TheWarlock: in korea ladder TheWarlock: right now TheWarlock: mechanically speaking theyre better than anyone whos ever competed in na TheWarlock: i am not a pro because im not good enough TheWarlock: to be the best TheWarlock: and i wont enjoy playing at mid tier lcs level TheWarlock: but as a coach im very smart about this game and how to win TheWarlock: strategically and otherwise TheWarlock: so i can reach mid international level TheWarlock: from na TheWarlock: similar to what alliance is today TheWarlock: star players who have experience and the same goal TheWarlock: liek you TheWarlock: my dream is to reach that level TheWarlock: and i work for it every day TheWarlock: and i sacrifice things to reach it C10 Meteos: try sacrificing your ego TheWarlock: tell me how C10 Meteos: if you dont think you have an ego but you have the wrong definition TheWarlock: and i will do it TheWarlock: ok TheWarlock: help me see it TheWarlock: please TheWarlock: i am genuine TheWarlock: in my pleade TheWarlock: plead* TheWarlock: i respect ur opinion as a succesful pro gamer TheWarlock: and ur take is better than mine TheWarlock: bceause u know what its like to be the best TheWarlock: at least on this level TheWarlock: so i listen to u TheWarlock: whole heartedly C10 Meteos: just stop caring about what other people are doing is probably a good first step C10 Meteos: look at it this way C10 Meteos: if fabby is trolling C10 Meteos: getting mad at him will literally do nothing C10 Meteos: but if i can ignore bottom lane and snowball somewhere else then the game can still be won C10 Meteos: if someone messes up why do you call them out for it C10 Meteos: its not going to help them and they probably already feel bad if they truly messed up anyway TheWarlock: i dont think imaqtpie feels bad when he first picks jungle ryzr and goes 0/8/1 TheWarlock: but i can see what ure saying TheWarlock: ok man TheWarlock: i will abandon TheWarlock: my attachment to my team mates performance in solo q TheWarlock: is that what u are saying? C10 Meteos: yeah TheWarlock: or am i missing something TheWarlock: ok C10 Meteos: youll just stress yourself out TheWarlock: thats all? C10 Meteos: lol TheWarlock: i already do TheWarlock: indeed TheWarlock: i lost maybe TheWarlock: 5 years off my lifespan TheWarlock: beacuse of this na oslo q TheWarlock: i wish my ping to kr wasnt 200 TheWarlock: or i would only play here TheWarlock: there C10 Meteos: yeah solo queue can be stressful C10 Meteos: and frustrating C10 Meteos: happens to everyone TheWarlock: ok C10 Meteos: but when you take it out on your teammates C10 Meteos: doesnt help anyone TheWarlock: here is something i will point out to u C10 Meteos: u feel me TheWarlock: that u might not have noticed TheWarlock: yes i do TheWarlock: i can see what u are saying TheWarlock: and why that would be better for me TheWarlock: and the game in general TheWarlock: if i were to do that TheWarlock: but notice this TheWarlock: every pro that has ever taken solo q REALLY seriously TheWarlock: has become so much better TheWarlock: think doublelift in s2, he had like 4 accounts in top 10, became internationally yrecognized TheWarlock: you guys were all top 50 TheWarlock: when u were playing qualifiers TheWarlock: and u stomped TheWarlock: shihptur got rank 1 TheWarlock: and suddenly became so good TheWarlock: wildturtle had the same run TheWarlock: but then everyone forgets that TheWarlock: and just ignores soloq TheWarlock: right after C10 Meteos: you're almost right with that statement C10 Meteos: you're missing part though TheWarlock: which is? C10 Meteos: when those players get high rated, it's not becuase they cared about winning C10 Meteos: none of those players rage at their temamates C10 Meteos: or get upset when they lose TheWarlock: they did care about winning and playing good TheWarlock: and sure they didnt do those things C10 Meteos: they got rank 1 because they were focused on improvement TheWarlock: im not saying theyre doing what im doing C10 Meteos: and they put a lot of time into practicing TheWarlock: im saying theyre doing their best to win TheWarlock: yes exactly TheWarlock: so why do most na pros TheWarlock: ignore their example TheWarlock: and not do the same C10 Meteos: thats not a fair statement, the majority of pros try in every game TheWarlock: not the same as those examples C10 Meteos: you're using one example of imaqtpie? TheWarlock: no TheWarlock: some others too C10 Meteos: look at bjergsen or doublelift right now TheWarlock: voyboy TheWarlock: etc C10 Meteos: they try very hard to win in solo queue C10 Meteos: and they get pissed TheWarlock: yes C10 Meteos: when their teammates are bad C10 Meteos: adnt hey tilt C10 Meteos: and they've gotten worse C10 Meteos: because of it TheWarlock: i dont think they got worse because of it C10 Meteos: they definitely have TheWarlock: but maybe it contributed C10 Meteos: it's happened to me as well C10 Meteos: whenever i care too much i get bad TheWarlock: so u are saying C10 Meteos: cause i start playing full dps vi just to try to win TheWarlock: be focused on improving C10 Meteos: and i dont buy wards TheWarlock: and try ur best TheWarlock: but dont care about the team? C10 Meteos: yes TheWarlock: that seems so hard to me TheWarlock: to adapt that mindset TheWarlock: to mine TheWarlock: but i will try C10 Meteos: just keep thinking "what can i do to win the game from here" C10 Meteos: and blaming your teammates is never the answer C10 Meteos: or hindsighting TheWarlock: ok TheWarlock: thank u for ur time and wisdom and sharing this with me, it will actually have a difference TheWarlock: on me C10 Meteos: thats cool to hear C10 Meteos: its hard TSQ Dusty: i learned a lot as well TheWarlock: i hope i also brought up a few ppoints TheWarlock: that change how u think or make u see new things TheWarlock: too C10 Meteos: i understand your perspective C10 Meteos: i just think your approach could be improved After a short pause by TheWarlock, Meteos realizes that he has finally succeeded in changing TheWarlocks attitude and hopes that by doing so he can little by little bring toxicity to an end in the league of legends community. Meteos smirks as he exists the chat room to queue up for another solo q game knowing that his efforts were worthwhile.