eetsummorr Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 15 Any good bass VSTs for mac? Anyone know of any good Bass vsts that are free? Im just trying to record some demos, and have DI'd the bass, and the tone is a bit lame. need to something to boost the tone and the low end, that isnt going to make fart sounds! Im using pro tools, and a mac G5, so pref something that is RTAS or VST! eetsummorr is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 10th, 2011, 03:07 AM #2 (permalink) 006 Mike G 006's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 8,970 Free plugs on a Mac? I lol'ed (Mac user for many years). Good luck finding one! __________________ Lyle Cooper Session Drums Winter Skies Productions on FaceBook Cubase Slip Editing Tutorial Video 006 Drum Pack v1.1: TCI Only,WAV Only *PM me for professional drum and/or guitar editing* 006 is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 10th, 2011, 03:11 AM #3 (permalink) eetsummorr Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 15 Ive found a few. Just not any for bass eetsummorr is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 10th, 2011, 05:47 AM #4 (permalink) 006 Mike G 006's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SATX Posts: 8,970 Yeah, it was sarcasm... __________________ Lyle Cooper Session Drums Winter Skies Productions on FaceBook Cubase Slip Editing Tutorial Video 006 Drum Pack v1.1: TCI Only,WAV Only *PM me for professional drum and/or guitar editing* 006 is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 10th, 2011, 04:28 PM #5 (permalink) neptunian Member neptunian's Avatar Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 72 [post deleted - I misread the OP's post] Last edited by neptunian : July 19th, 2011 at 11:14 PM. neptunian is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 11th, 2011, 06:13 PM #6 (permalink) ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen ahjteam's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virrat/Helsinki, Finland Posts: 9,398 Quote: Originally Posted by 006 View Post Free plugs on a Mac? I lol'ed (Mac user for many years). Good luck finding one! __________________ Some tutorials on this forum: How to make my guitar tracks sound huge : One approach to mixing : Other tutorials from the Ultimate Metal forum Moderator at Joey Sturgis forum and the maker of "the patch" Check out my music and youtube channel http://soundcloud.com/ahjteam/sets/debut-album http://www.facebook.com/ahjteam.music http://www.youtube.com/ahjteam ahjteam is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 11th, 2011, 07:30 PM #7 (permalink) MindMunch Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 727 If you don´t mind paying a few bucks, there´s Native Instruments Komplete Elements for 60 bucks that comes with Guitar Rig with a great bass amp sim (among other great stuff). http://www.native-instruments.com/en...lete-elements/ Studio Devil Virtual Virtual Amp Pro is 100 bucks and is also cool. http://www.studiodevil.com/products/..._bass_amp_pro/ MindMunch is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 12th, 2011, 01:29 AM #8 (permalink) Loren Littlejohn Lover of all boobage. Loren Littlejohn's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auburn NY- we grow em you listen Posts: 10,647 View myspace profile I vote fuck software and get a preamp made for bass. I'm drawing a blank on what I could recommend that wouldn't hit your wallet to hard though. I've heard ok things about the behringer pedal: http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHBDI21 But it is behringer so take my suggestion with a grain of salt. haha __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Notuern View Post I'd rather listen to a band with catchy riffs, melodies and clean un-autotuned vocals then a bunch of faggy douches with a side cuts playing open down tuned chords while screaming like a vagina full of air. Quote: Originally Posted by Glenn Fricker View Post Remember, you're dealing with people who can't remember where beat four is, or how a song is arranged, or how to tune an instrument. What makes you think they're going to remember to clean up after themselves? Nerol Studio Loren Littlejohn is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 12th, 2011, 09:29 AM #9 (permalink) friendforafoe FFaF Guitarist/Producer friendforafoe's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Washington DC Posts: 76 You don't necessarily need an amp sim to get a good recording tone with bass. If you have a decent enough bass with onboard tones set how you want (i.e. fiddling with the tone knobs), try recording the DI (as you've done) on one track and copy and paste it. On your first track, set a LP around 3500 to cut the highs and do a big dip a few db around 500Hz with a Q between 1.25-3.5 (to taste of course, use your ears) then compress the ever living shit out of it ... this track is going to be your bottom end of the bass. On the second track, set a HP all the way up to around 550-600Hz (12db slope should do the trick) and LP everything from 4000-4500kHz (to taste of course) since everything above that is pretty much nonsense for bass ... you can get lower if you want to give your guitars/drums/vocals more room, but that's entirely up to you. Now add some distortion ... I recommend "NoAmp!" which is based off a Sansamp bass driver ... not the best emulation of it, but it's perfect for what I need it for, sounds good, and it's free. It's a windows-based vst, which I know you're looking for a Mac-based plugin of sorts, but all the plug-in consists of is a .dll file (I dunno if you can execute those on a Mac since I'm a PC guy, so don't burn me if you can't!). When you add whatever distortion you decide to use, make it sound hideous ... this track on it's own is going to sound like shit, but once you start adjusting the volume of your bass distortion track, everything starts sitting together very nicely. Once you've adjusted the fader levels of both tracks to your ears' content, I normally send both of those to a single "Bass Buss" where I apply global EQ (do a cut in the lower sub-Hz where the kick's sub bass sits so they don't conflict with one another) and cut/boost as necessary. I'll also add some additional compression to "glue" the two tracks to one another a bit better and also add some limiting to really squash the bass even more so it stays consistent volume/dynamic wise ... if you need volume changes, automation is your friend. You also have the option of using bass cabinet impulses (which you can probably find for free using Google) and loading them into a plug-in for Mac that loads convolution reverb impulse files ... check out LAConvolver (it's free!) if you wanted that bass cabinet sound, but that's entirely up to you! The best part about all that was that was all free! The only instance I would ever add an amp sim is to give the tone a bit more color, but if you carefully EQ/Compress, you really don't need one for bass. Hope this helps! __________________ "I'm so metal I shit studs" My Music: Facebook, Soundclick, Soundcloud, Myspace Recording Shtuffs: Intel Core i7-2600 3.4GHz, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 2x 1TB HDD, Steinberg Cubase 5, the ENTIRE Toontrack library (we're fully endorsed!), Axe-FX II, Line 6 Pod Farm 2, and much much more! friendforafoe is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 12th, 2011, 01:48 PM #10 (permalink) ahjteam Anssi Tenhunen ahjteam's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virrat/Helsinki, Finland Posts: 9,398 noamp = pc vst only, no mac version la convolver = audio unit only, not vst __________________ Some tutorials on this forum: How to make my guitar tracks sound huge : One approach to mixing : Other tutorials from the Ultimate Metal forum Moderator at Joey Sturgis forum and the maker of "the patch" Check out my music and youtube channel http://soundcloud.com/ahjteam/sets/debut-album http://www.facebook.com/ahjteam.music http://www.youtube.com/ahjteam ahjteam is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 12th, 2011, 02:15 PM #11 (permalink) friendforafoe FFaF Guitarist/Producer friendforafoe's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Washington DC Posts: 76 Quote: Originally Posted by ahjteam View Post noamp = pc vst only, no mac version la convolver = audio unit only, not vst Thanks for clearing that up. Like I said, I know nothing of Macs so I wasn't sure if they could operate dlls or not. Same with LAConvolver ... I just found that with a Google search for the OP. If the OP has Logic, he could just use Space Designer to load the impulse files according to the almighty Google __________________ "I'm so metal I shit studs" My Music: Facebook, Soundclick, Soundcloud, Myspace Recording Shtuffs: Intel Core i7-2600 3.4GHz, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 2x 1TB HDD, Steinberg Cubase 5, the ENTIRE Toontrack library (we're fully endorsed!), Axe-FX II, Line 6 Pod Farm 2, and much much more! friendforafoe is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 12th, 2011, 03:45 PM #12 (permalink) Loren Littlejohn Lover of all boobage. Loren Littlejohn's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Auburn NY- we grow em you listen Posts: 10,647 View myspace profile Windows: .dll Mac: .vst .vst makes more sense, so I don't know what retard derped on that one. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Notuern View Post I'd rather listen to a band with catchy riffs, melodies and clean un-autotuned vocals then a bunch of faggy douches with a side cuts playing open down tuned chords while screaming like a vagina full of air. Quote: Originally Posted by Glenn Fricker View Post Remember, you're dealing with people who can't remember where beat four is, or how a song is arranged, or how to tune an instrument. What makes you think they're going to remember to clean up after themselves? Nerol Studio Loren Littlejohn is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 12th, 2011, 04:16 PM #13 (permalink) TimatWaves Tim at Waves TimatWaves's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 101 Waves GTR Solo is pretty close to free right now http://www.wavesgtr.com/html/product_gtr_solo.html That being said you need a good mic pre anyway, why not get one that works great as a bass DI as well? If you are into the whole lunchbox addiction, I love the Shadow Hills Mono Gama for bass DI and vocals. That way your DI sounds great on the way in. You could always go with the good ol' MXR or SanAmp Bass DI route as well. I hope this helps. TimatWaves is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 13th, 2011, 08:42 AM #14 (permalink) friendforafoe FFaF Guitarist/Producer friendforafoe's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Washington DC Posts: 76 Quote: Originally Posted by Loren Littlejohn View Post Windows: .dll Mac: .vst .vst makes more sense, so I don't know what retard derped on that one. REALLY?! I had no clue (again I'm a PC guy) ... that's one of the more facepalm-worthy things I've heard all day. Duplication of effort much? I agree that .vst WOULD make more since considering ... you know ... they're VSTs __________________ "I'm so metal I shit studs" My Music: Facebook, Soundclick, Soundcloud, Myspace Recording Shtuffs: Intel Core i7-2600 3.4GHz, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 2x 1TB HDD, Steinberg Cubase 5, the ENTIRE Toontrack library (we're fully endorsed!), Axe-FX II, Line 6 Pod Farm 2, and much much more! friendforafoe is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 19th, 2011, 01:40 AM #15 (permalink) eetsummorr Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 15 I miss the PC world of being able to steal everything... eetsummorr is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 19th, 2011, 01:55 AM #16 (permalink) ApeScaleConflict Senior Member ApeScaleConflict's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Helsinki Finland Posts: 612 Quote: Originally Posted by eetsummorr View Post I miss the PC world of being able to steal everything... First love, last love dude! You'll get over it i promise ApeScaleConflict is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 19th, 2011, 10:44 PM #17 (permalink) eetsummorr Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 15 Quote: Originally Posted by friendforafoe View Post You don't necessarily need an amp sim to get a good recording tone with bass. If you have a decent enough bass with onboard tones set how you want (i.e. fiddling with the tone knobs), try recording the DI (as you've done) on one track and copy and paste it. On your first track, set a LP around 3500 to cut the highs and do a big dip a few db around 500Hz with a Q between 1.25-3.5 (to taste of course, use your ears) then compress the ever living shit out of it ... this track is going to be your bottom end of the bass. On the second track, set a HP all the way up to around 550-600Hz (12db slope should do the trick) and LP everything from 4000-4500kHz (to taste of course) since everything above that is pretty much nonsense for bass ... you can get lower if you want to give your guitars/drums/vocals more room, but that's entirely up to you. Now add some distortion ... I recommend "NoAmp!" which is based off a Sansamp bass driver ... not the best emulation of it, but it's perfect for what I need it for, sounds good, and it's free. It's a windows-based vst, which I know you're looking for a Mac-based plugin of sorts, but all the plug-in consists of is a .dll file (I dunno if you can execute those on a Mac since I'm a PC guy, so don't burn me if you can't!). When you add whatever distortion you decide to use, make it sound hideous ... this track on it's own is going to sound like shit, but once you start adjusting the volume of your bass distortion track, everything starts sitting together very nicely. Once you've adjusted the fader levels of both tracks to your ears' content, I normally send both of those to a single "Bass Buss" where I apply global EQ (do a cut in the lower sub-Hz where the kick's sub bass sits so they don't conflict with one another) and cut/boost as necessary. I'll also add some additional compression to "glue" the two tracks to one another a bit better and also add some limiting to really squash the bass even more so it stays consistent volume/dynamic wise ... if you need volume changes, automation is your friend. You also have the option of using bass cabinet impulses (which you can probably find for free using Google) and loading them into a plug-in for Mac that loads convolution reverb impulse files ... check out LAConvolver (it's free!) if you wanted that bass cabinet sound, but that's entirely up to you! The best part about all that was that was all free! The only instance I would ever add an amp sim is to give the tone a bit more color, but if you carefully EQ/Compress, you really don't need one for bass. Hope this helps! Yeah dude that helps allot. Have heard similar tips before, but you cleared some stuff up and gave me some new ideas. Cheers! eetsummorr is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 19th, 2011, 11:29 PM #18 (permalink) neptunian Member neptunian's Avatar Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 72 Quote: Originally Posted by friendforafoe View Post On your first track, set a LP around 3500 to cut the highs and do a big dip a few db around 500Hz with a Q between 1.25-3.5 (to taste of course, use your ears) then compress the ever living shit out of it ... this track is going to be your bottom end of the bass. Yup I found this to be the key to a solid bass sound. Was working on a new song recently and couldn't figure out why the bass was lacking oomph. Boosting lows and messing with the compressor didn't fix it; seemed like the lows just wouldn't boost. Well, turns out it just needed a broad cut in the 250-600 Hz region, which freed up lots of sonic space otherwise taken up by mud. That allowed the bass compressor and bus compressor to do their jobs and kaboom I had my big punchy low end. So yeah, too much in the 300-500 (+/-) area = lameness. neptunian is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 20th, 2011, 05:01 AM #19 (permalink) sopulurn how do preset sopulurn's Avatar Join Date: May 2009 Location: Finland Posts: 3,516 Quote: Originally Posted by Loren Littlejohn View Post I vote fuck software and get a preamp made for bass. I'm drawing a blank on what I could recommend that wouldn't hit your wallet to hard though. I've heard ok things about the behringer pedal: http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHBDI21 But it is behringer so take my suggestion with a grain of salt. haha This thing is pretty decent - was able to get a pretty solid tone once using one of these. It's a stompbox, but it's cheapo plastic... It'll probably break if you operate the bypass with your foot, which is ironic as it's supposed to be an effects pedal __________________ Chaotech Bonemechanics sopulurn is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old July 20th, 2011, 05:08 PM #20 (permalink) Ghoulscout Junior Member Ghoulscout's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 21 IK Multimedia Ampeg SVX sounds awesome and does not cost that much. Totally worth it! Ghoulscout is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old December 15th, 2012, 05:28 AM #21 (permalink) rosco75 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1 i can lol on pc and ableton users :P is amazing to read things from people who doesnt even know what they r talking about, thats funny :P obviously is full of vst about mac softwares, and they are the best, much better than pc, even coz on mac and using logic, u can use the AU VST (Audio Unit System, created by Apple for logic users, and r amazing!!!), that other softwares or OS cant use.... the problem is that, about what u wrote in the question, i guess u dont need a vst but a plugin, as a vst is to MAKE sounds, but a plugin is just to modify and not to create... so if u already have a bass (as u wrote) and want add something on it, u need to use a plugin, and there are a lot on mac, than it depends about what kind of software u use.... cubase and logic are the best softwares and not ableton, so keep in mind the VST system had been create by Steinberg, same creators as cubase, so all other softwares just use what they invented, it is already a point to think about... ;-) another thing is that other softwares, as Ableton (poor for me!!!), still use the VST (1), but the latest version of cubase is already using the VST 2 and 3, maybe cubase 7 reached VST 4 already but im not sure about it... FL is much better than ableton, amazing dynamics and amazing sound, but i will be always a cubase user as cubase is a master software, and ableton, FL, and reason, are slaves, it means that inside my cubase i can use in rewire all other 3 mentioned softwares, but u cant do the opposite as they are slaves so they cannot have other softwares inside... now lets go to ur problem.... if u need just to modify a sound u already created, in this case the bassline, u just need to add 1 or more plugins to ur track line, for example u can use one of this: First u need a frequency analyzer to check frequencies and make a correct job when changing the bass, than u can add a BASS RIDER, or a CLA BASS, or a KRAMER BA, or a JJP BASS, or a MASERATI B62, or a MAXXBASS, or a RBASS, and so on.... there are a lot, so dont listen to people who doesnt know things, they r just ignorant about VST and softwares!!! PS: other big differences between cubase and other softwares, are that on cubase u can export files in all formats and choose even the quality, u cant do it in other softwares as ableton, so if u need to publish a track on soundcloud, with cubase u just export the track in the kind of file u prefer, choosing the quality, for example, u dont need to wait more time to export a wav so u can export it directly on mp3 at 192 kbs, to dont give to the people the best quality in case they can DL ur track using softwares... with ableton u must export on wav and use another software to make it on mp3, so so so long and useless for a "supposted" professional software... another big missing in other softwares is that, when u finish a track and u must make the mixdown or mastering, u must analyze the track to check things as volume peaks, channel notes, DC OFFSET, and other things u cant miss to make a proper mix and master, with ableton u must export the track as i said before, and use another software to check this things, but with cubase u can just right click the interested track and click on statistics, so in few seconds u can know all what u have to know about ur track ;-) never forget that cubase is the FATHER of all softwares, everything comes from steinberg and from cubase, since ever!!! Last edited by rosco75 : December 15th, 2012 at 05:36 AM. rosco75 is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old December 20th, 2012, 07:35 PM #22 (permalink) rfahey86 Death Be Not Proud rfahey86's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dickson City, Pa Posts: 202 This one is not exactly free but its what i use - Ampeg SVX http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/ampegsvx/ . I really like the sounds that I can get from it. rfahey86 is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old December 20th, 2012, 08:51 PM #23 (permalink) Twistedrock am not wear cape Twistedrock's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 249 __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by JasinElric View Post You generally don't want the bass and guitars getting married. Go for a casual encounter type of relationship. You'll find the bass is a free spirit and likes to mingle with other elements, like the kick. Check out my band! Demos coming soon. Caged Spectrum - Progressive Metal from Portsmouth, UK Twistedrock is offline Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post! Reply With Quote Old December 20th, 2012, 09:18 PM #24 (permalink) He's Dead, Jim Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 75 This thread is a year old haha, but there is now a Mac version of LeCab, so if you combine that with the free version of PodFarm (I think there's a free limited version with 2 bass amp heads) and throw a bass IR in it could sound pretty good.