[21:44][kurt kren] so i'm an idealist in that sense
[21:44][philgood] SOMEBODY ELSE
[21:44][philgood] MAKES IT HARD TO LIVE WITHOUT
[21:45][rewind] the egyptian pharaohs called themselves travellers from the north
[21:45][Blackshirts!] Abstract principles.  You sounds like a Traditionalist sans the spiritial component kurt kren.
[21:45][philgood] you guys like rod stewart dont you
[21:45][rewind] they landed in egypt and said we are the fearruas
[21:45][kurt kren] but they're not ju st ideas, because they explain what exists, what is material and changing
[21:45][kurt kren] even the porportions of the human body
[21:45][rewind] fear rua in gaelic means.. we are the red haired men