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I lost my mind and Louise found it for me.

Coincidentally, before I read your post, I had been stuck in a waiting room where there was a long and very loud discussion among college students from a women’s studies class about how traditional roles were actually humiliating for men, only they were too stupid to realize it.

So I misread your post (and now I really feel stupid!). What you were saying should have been obvious to me, and it is definitely not bizarre. It makes perfect sense that a woman with submissive inclinations could get a perverse pleasure from that type of situation.

by a Taken In Hand reader on 2006 Sep 29 - 07:17 | reply to this comment
Bizarre?
I can also understand Hera's reaction.

It touches upon something that has been observed on this site many times - that one of the things that makes a Taken in Hand relationship exciting for many women is that it runs contrary to the established values of the wider society.

Certainly I can appreciate the protective and caring aspect of a man paying for a meal. However for an independent woman with feminist values (who is also submissive as Louise points out) it can provide a frisson of humiliation and excitement to have the man publicly take charge in this way. In fact I would go further and say that the man ordering the meal on the woman's behalf and making decisions such as how much alcohol she should be allowed etc. are also exciting because of the frisson of humiliation and the public reinforcing of the man's authority. But that's just me, I know many women remain unmoved by these things or would positively hate them!

by Lauren on 2006 Sep 29 - 09:49 | reply to this comment
Humiliation and/or dominance
Hera wrote: