Basic guidance on considering AWS for my web hosting The AWS services are so extensive and mostly advanced, that I can't determine if they provide the basic web hosting that I need. I have been using Linux hosting services for 15 or 20 years but don't see anything familiar at Amazon. ++++++++++++++ list of top cheapest host http://Listfreetop.pw Top 200 best traffic exchange sites http://Listfreetop.pw/surf free link exchange sites list http://Listfreetop.pw/links list of top ptc sites list of top ptp sites Listfreetop.pw Listfreetop.pw +++++++++++++++ I am with A2-Hosting now and everything is good, but they have told me my prices well go up 50% when my current contract is over (unless their pricing schedule changes +/- at the time my contract ends) My needs are simple - I am currently paying $550/Year for this but would like to establish pricing stability. ( my last provider went up to $1500/year for this type of service) A. I need a conventional Linux hosting service, that provides a VPS that they keep running and updated. B. A user Control Panel C. Free SSL for 9 web sites. D. 80 mb/s download speed E. 100GB space available for my content. F. PHP support G. No database or shopping cart. G. I update content almost daily with ftp using Windows Explorer . . I can't give up this open-text ftp access for updates. If I get hacked I will start over from my local backup. Hasn't happened yet in the last 15 years. Will AWS allow open text ftp? I see that AWS has free trial as a learning tool, but I can't find anything that looks like a conventional basic Linux host. First off, thank you for hosting with us! It sounds like you're under an initial term discount which goes back to our regular pricing from the first renewal. That being said, I'd hate to see you leave especially as you seem overall satisfied with the hosting experience received. If you'd like, feel free to send me a PM with your primary domain name or client area email address and I'd be happy to confirm the above as well as see what I can do on the renewal. ? A2 Hosting - Our speed, your success. ? Email: alex [at] a2hosting.com | Toll Free (USA/Canada): 1-888-546-8946 | International: +1 734-222-4678 | UK VPS Hosting Short answer, no, AWS isn't going to meet your criteria. AWS will give you a virtual machine (VPS) but everything else is up to you. Karl Austin :: KDA Web Services Ltd. UK Business Hosting, Managed Servers & Private Cloud :: 0800 5429 764 Call us today and ask about our hosting & colocation solutions. You can use their ec2 compute instances to get you the VPS. Then on that VPS, you can install one of the many free control panels or Plesk (or cpanel). Plesk might be a better option than cpanel for AWS as it has options for mapping private and public IPs which you need on AWS. (don't use cpanel, so don't know if that has changed since the last time i tried cpanel on AWS years ago.) Though, I would contact the host and see if they can provide another promo or something as I am sure they would want to retain you as a customer. -Steven | u2-web@Cooini, LLC - Business Shared Hosting | Isolate sites with Webspaces | Site Builder | PHP-FPM | MariaDB WHMCS Modules: Staff Knowledgebase | Custom Modules and Hooks "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" -Aristotle You can use their ec2 compute instances to get you the VPS. Then on that VPS, you can install one of the many free control panels or Plesk (or cpanel). Plesk might be a better option than cpanel for AWS as it has options for mapping private and public IPs which you need on AWS. (don't use cpanel, so don't know if that has changed since the last time i tried cpanel on AWS years ago.) Though, I would contact the host and see if they can provide another promo or something as I am sure they would want to retain you as a customer. From my understanding, cPanel on AWS is a complete mess. Plesk on the other hand, works perfectly fine within the AWS environment. cPanel just doesn't work right within VPCs. In any case, @swbca, using AWS requires knowledge of the cloud infrastructure to some degree because otherwise, you run the danger of racking up a bill that is beyond costly. One great thing about AWS is the fact that you only pay for what you need and AWS scaling features work well so you aren't paying for 100% power all the time - just when you need it. This does take architecting your layout but AWS does give you a pretty decent trial of their services. Everything you said can be done on AWS fairly easily. In regards to your want to interact with Windows Explorer, AWS instances are like any other server. However, I would recommend looking into object storage and use Mountain Duck. Mountain Duck can also mount pretty much any remote share as a Windows Explorer accessible drive. However, unlike Cyberduck which is a great multi-purpose SFTP app, Mountain Duck isn't free. Other than that, you'll likely run into a few caveats as you learn AWS but once you get the grasp of it you will understand how easy it is to leverage it in your favor. Bandwidth on AWS alone will kill you, left alone incompatibility with cpanel. You may be spoiled by unlimited bandwidth provided by your current services. $1500/year is nothing compared to AWS, with 80Mb/s bandwidth requirement, you may be surprised by monthly bill of thousands of dollars. Personally, I don't recommend AWS if you are looking for cheap hosting. It would seem to be cheap but you only realize the actual bills when you pay them by the end of a monnth. More over if the requirement is small you could choose lightsail which keeps its promise of price and comes has a bundle. If you are lokking for cloud hosting there are other options to consider like DigitalOcean, vultr, Linode, etc Server Management | Cloud Management | DevOps Support | Skynats Email : info@skynats.com Skype : skynats.tech AWS will be an expensive solution for your requirement. Try any web hosting company with VPS or shared hosting solutions. There have always been concerns with RDBMS app performance on AWS. Not sure if this is the same as CPanel issue. If at all you do go with AWS, make sure that you set bandwidth limits appropriately. No unlimited bw plans, please. BountySite: Every Website deserves Security Website Time Machine with Offsite Security Scanning The Bounty Program for Hosting Industry FileTrail - Full Server Backup | SSHTrail - SSH Jumpbox AWS should be good, but it's extremely expensive when it comes to bandwidth. If you get DDoS attacks, you pay all that traffic. There are many problems with AWS: - Cheap tiers are SLOW. Painfully slow. They are mainly used for testing but are not fit for purpose otherwise. To get any decent performance, you need to see big, ideally EC2 with local SSDs. I recommend the m5d.large to start with. It's the cheapest EC2 with a local 75 GB SSD. It has 8 Gb of RAM and a 10 Gbps network card. It's $840 / year + bandwidth + IPs - It's not possible to predict the cost. If you post something and it goes viral or is tweeted by an account with a lot of followers, your $550 is gone very very quickly. - No support - Difficult to impossible to install any control panel in an EC2 instance. I managed to install Direct Admin once but it wasn't a pleasant experience. cPanel, I wouldn't even try. Enterprise Consultant ITIL - Agile Scrum Master - CCNP R&S - CCNA Sec AWS is marketed towards developers and IT managerial staff who have technical staff at their disposal. That said, it's not too hard to deploy an EC-2 instance with Linux and Plesk/cPanel from their marketplace and configure it with the help of some tutorials. AWS may have a top grade network, but you're on your own. Considering your situation, you'd probably be better off with a high quality host that markets themselves to the individual/small business owner. A2 Hosting is a reputable host that's been around forever, but from what I know they are towards the cheaper end of the scale. You will pay a lot more if you want to be hosted on a high quality 'cloud' network with redundancy as well as managed services. From which region do you want to host the site? Reply With Quote Reply With Quote 0 Not allowed! 03-22-2019, 07:29 AM #13 pavanteja pavanteja is offline Newbie Join Date Feb 2019 Posts 10 If you have a budget, then better avoid AWS. There are many alternatives and better to go for a VPS based on your traffic location. In my own experience, AWS basically avoid overheads of server down times, and also it can set autoscaling option to manage resource usages accordingly. However, I dont find any issues in installing and configuring control panels like (cPanel and CWP)in AWS instances for setting up a default webhosting server. All needed is to define /open ports (like ftp, cPanel,WHM ports,etc..,) in AWS security group for routing the traffic. But you should be aware of all charges before using an AWS instance for a high traffic VPS. TuxAndrew Linux - RedHat,cPANEL CentOS,Ubuntu,Azure/AWS Administrator, Assistance, Analytics and Diagnosis. Skype: tuxandrew tuxandrew@aol.com if your current host has looked after you well for years why on earth would you want to move? if your current host has looked after you well for years why on earth would you want to move? So rightly said - why on earth would you want to move? [ServerClub.In - The Server Experts - ISO 9001:2015 & ISO 10002:2014 Certified [Email: crm [at] virtualworld.co.in | Multiple Global Locations - INDIA, SINGAPORE, UK, Germany, USA [ALL SSD - Business Shared Hosting - Business Email Specialist - Gsuite - VPS - Dedicated Servers - Cloud Hosting Solutions It is unbelievable on the amount of misinformation that is being spread here. Every major control panel is fully compatible on AWS and cPanel works flawlessly whether it is on EC2 instances or Lightsail. Our entire cPanel based cloud hosting runs on top of AWS infrastructure with several additional Managed VPS running on Plesk and Webmin/Virtualmin. While the initial learning curve on AWS is a little steep for someone who is not familiar with setting up their own servers, once you have everything in place, there is no other provider that matches the flexibility, agility and reliability that AWS can provide. Even on the cost front, AWS has bundled VPS plans starting from $2.5/month which can match up with other providers like DO. @OP, for the money you are currently spending, you should be able to get a pretty decent server on AWS that comes as a managed service. AWS doesn't provide managed services except for larger enterprises. All their other services are managed through 3rd party vendors or by the user themselves. It is unbelievable on the amount of misinformation that is being spread here. Every major control panel is fully compatible on AWS and cPanel works flawlessly whether it is on EC2 instances or Lightsail. Our entire cPanel based cloud hosting runs on top of AWS infrastructure with several additional Managed VPS running on Plesk and Webmin/Virtualmin. While the initial learning curve on AWS is a little steep for someone who is not familiar with setting up their own servers, once you have everything in place, there is no other provider that matches the flexibility, agility and reliability that AWS can provide. Even on the cost front, AWS has bundled VPS plans starting from $2.5/month which can match up with other providers like DO. @OP, for the money you are currently spending, you should be able to get a pretty decent server on AWS that comes as a managed service. AWS doesn't provide managed services except for larger enterprises. All their other services are managed through 3rd party vendors or by the user themselves. How's the lightsail for selling cPanel shared hosting in terms of reliability, cost and support? Reliability is High, Cost is OKish as in you could get better bundled configurations for the same price elsewhere. Support is paid, minimum $30/month or 3% of total spend for developer support(12 hour ETA) and upwards of $100 or 10% of your total expense if you want immediate actionable tech support. Also, remember, support is only for hardware/cloud infrastructure, not for the software your install/run/manage like cPanel/WHM. So, unless you know how to manage all aspects of your servers and have hardware failure mitigations strategies in place, better to opt for any other managed service provider. Reliability is High, Cost is OKish as in you could get better bundled configurations for the same price elsewhere. Support is paid, minimum $30/month or 3% of total spend for developer support(12 hour ETA) and upwards of $100 or 10% of your total expense if you want immediate actionable tech support. Also, remember, support is only for hardware/cloud infrastructure, not for the software your install/run/manage like cPanel/WHM. So, unless you know how to manage all aspects of your servers and have hardware failure mitigations strategies in place, better to opt for any other managed service provider. Thanks for the great information about support. So if we have the snapshots or server backup, do we still need a support? Is it good option for developing own shared hosting infrastructure with cPanel/WHM, cloudlinux, litespeed etc.? Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk If you have no system admin experience managing servers, or you don't have a team that can do it. I would avoid AWS and just go with a managed VPS provider. That said if the managed provider sets you up on AWS that will be fine as the provider takes responsibility for making sure the server is secure. CPK Web Services Fully managed website hosting for every business. Get in touch https://www.cpkws.com.au/contact-us.php It is unbelievable on the amount of misinformation that is being spread here. Every major control panel is fully compatible on AWS and cPanel works flawlessly whether it is on EC2 instances or Lightsail. Our entire cPanel based cloud hosting runs on top of AWS infrastructure with several additional Managed VPS running on Plesk and Webmin/Virtualmin. While the initial learning curve on AWS is a little steep for someone who is not familiar with setting up their own servers, once you have everything in place, there is no other provider that matches the flexibility, agility and reliability that AWS can provide. Even on the cost front, AWS has bundled VPS plans starting from $2.5/month which can match up with other providers like DO. @OP, for the money you are currently spending, you should be able to get a pretty decent server on AWS that comes as a managed service. AWS doesn't provide managed services except for larger enterprises. All their other services are managed through 3rd party vendors or by the user themselves. While you can run CPanel on EC2 it isn't really recommended. But that is because CPanel can't take advantage of the load balancers and the auto scaling and all the other things that make AWS stand out from just a bog standard VPS. I mean the AWS network is ok but from a server point of view it is basically a rather expensive VPS. Now, Lightsail with Cpanel on the other hand sounds interesting, I gather you just run this on a standard CentOS 7 install? CPK Web Services Fully managed website hosting for every business. Get in touch https://www.cpkws.com.au/contact-us.php vivelefric.fr o hostel edinburgh youtube.com e money making so.gd la hosteria pagefox.net bukalapak.com traffic-smith.com to make money synonym First of all, if you are thinking about to switch AWS, its possible and more secure than what all hosting companies offers. The point is, you have to secure your application yourself otherwise it should compromise at anytime if its having any loophole. If you really concerned about the pricing, you have to deep dive on hosting companies plan which is comparing to AWS. AWS itself provide a cost estimator. Best case would be. make a free AWS account and build an infrastructure which is matching your requirement and deploy your application. - Find the performance and security - compare pricing between what you have right now Take a decision which one is good for your business. <> While you can run CPanel on EC2 it isn't really recommended. But that is because CPanel can't take advantage of the load balancers and the auto scaling and all the other things that make AWS stand out from just a bog standard VPS. I mean the AWS network is ok but from a server point of view it is basically a rather expensive VPS. Now, Lightsail with Cpanel on the other hand sounds interesting, I gather you just run this on a standard CentOS 7 install? This is a misunderstanding of how the AWS ecosystem works and how you can use it to build truly scalable cloud environments. With EC2 and cPanel, you can absolutely use load balancers because unlike your traditional VPS, here, the compute, database & storage are completely different entities, your storage is not on the same machine as your CPU. You can easily use shared storage pools outside of the EC2 to host your customer account files and your DB on another remote server like RDS/Aurora while having multiple front end EC2s running cPanel by syncing the core system files across your instances. This gives you a true cloud setup. As long as you know how to manage the core cPanel file replication and ensure there is no mismatch between the front end EC2s, you can truly have a load balanced and auto scaled environment. Essentially you can break up a traditional VPS into separate and distinct components on AWS and run them independent of each other to achieve exceptional redundancy, durability & scalability. With lightsail of course the story is different where you are essentially getting a traditional VPS where you can install CentOS and run cPanel/Webmin/Plesk. They have been trying to extend the lightsail integration into the EC2 environment of the last year and now you get the capability of moving an existing lightsail image directly into EC2 etc. More integration will come in the future like VPC networking etc which should start making the lightsail look more than just another traditional VPS. This is a misunderstanding of how the AWS ecosystem works and how you can use it to build truly scalable cloud environments. With EC2 and cPanel, you can absolutely use load balancers because unlike your traditional VPS, here, the compute, database & storage are completely different entities, your storage is not on the same machine as your CPU. You can easily use shared storage pools outside of the EC2 to host your customer account files and your DB on another remote server like RDS/Aurora while having multiple front end EC2s running cPanel by syncing the core system files across your instances. This gives you a true cloud setup. As long as you know how to manage the core cPanel file replication and ensure there is no mismatch between the front end EC2s, you can truly have a load balanced and auto scaled environment. Essentially you can break up a traditional VPS into separate and distinct components on AWS and run them independent of each other to achieve exceptional redundancy, durability & scalability. I know how it works. This is the issue Cpanel doesn't run well at all in load balanced environments as the systems don't sync correctly. Not without doing a lot of work anyway. Cpanel updates would cause issues as well. Plesk on the other hand have a control panel built specifically for AWS and related environments. Ideally you wouldn't run any control panel at all as they are memory hogs. Cpanel used to be able to run fine on 1GB of Ram now a days you need at the minimum two or three GB just to get any decent server performance. CPK Web Services