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Secondly, Saiyan power reaches it's pinnacle with Potara and Fusion........ FPSSJ isn't a transformation, but just a mastery mental and physical state. By the way the movie I was talking about is Bojack Unbound with Gohan and the tournament. SS4 Goku barely held up a building, where as pre-Super Saiyan Z Goku smashed a mountain.
GT is NOT Canon, as stated by Akira Toriyama bullshit. Then as a SSJ he would be 500. If SSJG is a power up, then it would be able to raise someones power level over that of a SS4, as Super Kaio-Ken raises ones power level over that of an SSJ3 without transforming past SSJ2. Goku, at the point of achieving SSJ4, was far stronger than he was at the time of achieving Super Saiyan God.
Surly only a saiyan of a god like level would have a shot at killing someone like this when every other saiyan failed. But this doesn't proove anything about which is stronger. Characters are able to toy with others even with smaller differences in power so to highball Beerus to the point where you won't even grant him 1% on Goku is absurd seeing as enraged SSj2 Vegeta blitzed and mildly hurt him and even an enraged SSj2 Vegeta should be in the same ballpark as Goku, too speaking. After he is killed, we see Future Trunks transform for the first time only in the anime, for Trunks seemed to already have attained the transformation rather recently in the original mangathus showing his original transformation. SSJ4 is way stronger than SSJ:God. But print his power as by 4000x SSJ4 and SSJG Goku is a 300,000. I agree with you, you have me wrong. And SSJ4 is 10x SSJ3, but SSJ4 GT Goku is not 10x SSJ3 DBZ Goku. I did what you said.
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This Forum has been archived OK here is the real answer Akira said there would be no more SSj levels so we will now only see him in a base form and a SSJG form essentially resetting the forms so if you really want to compare it SSJ4 would be in between SJG and SSJG mode as Akira confirmed Goku would no longer use SSJ2 and 3 thus starting a whole new level so if we do see any more levels of transformation it would be more along the lines of SSJG2 and no longer will he use SSJ levels. Would it make a difference if he was SSJ4? SSJG can equal and surpass Bills, we can anticipate this in the movies to come and SSJ4 which is not God, cannot use his ki on Bills. Thus, I state that SSJ God is stronger due to the fact he was able to equal Bills, the God of Destruction, who was said to be able to destroy a galaxy. The SSJ God form also lets Goku use godly ki, which beats any variation of normal ki which SSJ4 utilizes. I wonder which is stronger? Super Saiyan God can't beat Bills but SSJ 4 can beat Great Ape baby. So which is stronger? So, technically, GT Goku can turn Super Saiyan God. I mean Goku is taking on someone who is stronger than Super Vegetto. If Goku were to turn SSJ4 in DBZ, I don't think he would be stronger than Super Vegito at all. If the question is SSJ4 Goku GT vs SSJg Goku than SSJ4 no doubt. Ridiculous This entire discussion is ridiculous! GT is NOT Canon, as stated by Akira Toriyama bullshit. Which means, within the realm of the Dragon Ball Universe, SSJ4 never existed. SSG is the pinnacle of Saiyan Power. The most powerful being to have ever existed. Learn your facts people 1 - Seach for news about the movie. Bills is probably a little stronger than Super Saiyan God. Show me a link, or even his quote. And Whis is way stronger than SSGod, which is on par with Bills on strength. Secondly, Saiyan power reaches it's pinnacle with Potara and Fusion........ Contact me at: imagodandilovefood gmail. I'll try to answer them the best I can! First off, GT is not cannon, simple as that. Second, Fusion is not the pinnacle of Saiyan power. Technically it's the pinnacle of the race that made fusion and the Potara Fusion is
