Start up - how much do you really need?
With how much did you get started with?
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You need the same amount for an online business as you do for an offline business.
A lot more information is needed. what industry?
around $90
host
vpn
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your need much training as all above set via u.
What kind of startup is that?
I started with 0 I was using freenom domain to redirect users to a CPA offer and I was promoting it on FB ( cold promoting by talkng to people ) I remember I made $200 from it in one month then from there I invested in a .com domain,hosting and started with YouTube making $300 per month scaled it to 4k per month till i got banned ( thank God I milked the shit out of my niche and have some good money in the bank) now I'm testing projects to see what's gonna work and if I find something stable that work I'm gonna invest that money in it and go all in. The advice that I'm gonna give to noobs is u can start with 0 if u have strategies , u only need money if u want to scale something that make u a dollar
What kind of startup is that?
that type which is mentioned on Techcrunch
A lot more information is needed. what industry?
Doesn't matter.. dropshipping, affiliate, ebook, youtube, etc.. whatever worked for you.
Basic start up you can go for as little as 15$ for a domain and hosting. You can then build an Amazon affiliate site or an adsense based site. It will be hard af, and super slow, but if you then invest every penny you get into the right things you can do it.
People with money to invest make money a lot lot quicker. But those people often have the skills to match the money too.
The web business isn’t cheap it’s takes real money in 2019 the gimmick days are over u need real financial investment
If you have great ideas, venture capitalist will be ready to fund your ideas. Shark tank kind of shows examples of how very basic ideas turn great..
really depends on what business you want to start and what specific tools are needed
I am amazed to read the story of many people in the forum. I really want to start. In one way or another, I have several ideas. But I want to make friends here so I know how to start in a more secure way
I am willing to take the risk of making a mistake in order to try again. But at this moment I'm wanting to start and we could say that with $ 0 and on an empty stomach.
Wish me luck please
"in 2019 the gimmick days are over"
What gimmick days are you talking about? The world of civilly disobedient marketing and monetization is the same as it always has been, it depends on your game..... As for gimmicks, there are still plenty to be taken advantage of in the wild yet. I might not be printing off QR codes and selling the coupons for a share of the value price in front of Blockbuster in "1000 Free Movie Codes for $10" style anymore, but when a man/woman is in a pinch, it is the creativity and not the cash up front that makes it a win/lose... even today... hustles cost less then following the TOS, but with more stability risk.
You are right... if you want to step to the plate as an agency, or mass email, spread the love around the network so to say, run an aged private blog network or other entity it where the economics gave changed, it will take more than a tower rig, Firefox and an IP switcher and some MFAs to accomplish this....
But This is BHW, not ITWorld...
My last "BLACKHAT" project was run from a free landline phone room in a community center of a larger city that I do not live in, calling out on the phone from a local on caller ID # and selling "local services... locally." live design over the phone - oooWebhost free servers for mock ups
that they could "buy a domain at godaddy for later." [Insert coupon]
and Recommend "this guy" [insert coupon] who will migrate the site ( a big money value ) for $20 to wordpress blog... 5er resell
(simple WP page and Woocommerce plugin to make it simple to split the cash before I order manually after payment - spreadsheet software-free).
100 calls a day, 30 days. Done on a $35 prepaid cellphone without service that I pulled out a drawer and used wifi (pulled from hub locally via copper, smae public phone #) only at the Comm Center for free and a single $4 VPS/Wordpress through SSH and NoMachne on Android for dev (I recommend JuiceSSH for SSH simplicity on Android) [about 2 hours a day = 60hrs].
Sold website mockups and directory listing upsells on a .99 cent domain name.
Thought it would be fun with a friend I was visiting... so the time was more fun than work.
came home with about .64BC more - cashed about .1 locally for the 30 days of fun.
(it might seem like bla bla blah... but I digress)
The Tech may change, but the mark hasn't changed since Robin Hood... The TOS be damned... thy contract was never made with thee...
I am not therefore held!
My answer would be take $10 and get creative... when you get good at seeing how the TOS and the tech have a gap, the dump in $10,000.
May all BHW men be merry.
What gimmick days are you talking about? The world of civilly disobedient marketer is the same as it always has been, it depends on your game..... As for gimmicks, there are still plenty to be taken advantage of in the wild yet. I might not be printing off QR codes and selling the coupons for half price in front of Blockbuster in "1000 Free Movie Codes for $10", but when a man/woman is in a pinch, it is the creativity and not the cash up front that makes it a win/lose...
You are right... if you want to step to the plate as an agency, or mass email, spread the love around the network so to say, run an aged private blog network or other entity it will take more than a rig Firefox and an IP switcher to accomplish this....
But This is BHW, not ITWorld...
My last "BLACKHAT" project was run from a free phone room in a community center of a larger city that I do not live in, calling out on the phone and selling "local services... locally." oooWebhost free servers that they could "buy a domain at godaddy for later." Recommend "this guy", who will migrate the site ( a big money value ) for $20... 5er resell.
100 calls a day, 30 days. Done on a $35 prepaid cellphone without service that i pulled out a drawer and used wifi only and a single $4 VPS/Wordpress through SSH and NoMachne on Android for dev (I recommend JuiceSSH for SSH simplicity on Android) [about 2 hours a day = 60hrs].
Sold websites and directory listings on a .99 cent domain name. All as resell with monthly recurrs.
Thought it would be fun with a friend I was visiting... so the time was more fun than work.
came home with about .64BC more - cashed about .1 locally for the 30 days of fun.
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What I meant buy that is certain particular web businesses have ramp up their security and fraud divisions preventing certain types of gimmicks ie “traffic bots” or click ad bots from working successfully in 2019. Instagram is slowly but surely ramping up their security measures as well. Of course it’s still tons of ways to make money successfully on the web in 2019 but I like to present a realistic perspective to newbies so they just don’t dive in blindly with misconceptions like it’s 2010-2014
$600.... Six figures in 36 months or thereabout.
What I meant buy that is certain particular web businesses have ramp up their security and fraud divisions preventing certain types of gimmicks ie “traffic bots” or click ad bots from working successfully in 2019. Instagram is slowly but surely ramping up their security measures as well. Of course it’s still tons of ways to make money successfully on the web in 2019 but I like to present a realistic perspective to newbies so they just don’t dive in blindly with misconceptions like it’s 2010-2014
No offense meant or taken. I think we both are here to help. What are the OPs goals and intentions?
There is a large difference between if he seeks long term tech on tech SEO for wide coverage/high income, or if he seeks social>SEO>Human intervention for quick bucks.
As it IS getting tougher... I just want to foster creativity/hope to those who may be looking for a little money, and maybe not a ROI using a tech based infrastructure combined with highly leveraged investment model...
BHW has always kinda been my home block... as I move alot. I only come out to blab occasionally, but I have always supported the new kids on the block (not the band - yeeck). Maybe I'm just ole' fashioned, but I don't believe in unrealistic expectations, but encourage them, for without them we are either stagnant or in decline.
It costs a lot more than it did before, and the areas of production are constantly in flux.
But this is also BHW. What happens when you lose it all, down to the last IP and your last account is a gambling site in Macau?
You head on down to the public library and you break your library cards TOS, pull up referenceUSA, a cell phone on free wifi and sell some B2B clickbank over the telephone.
Laws broken Zero....
TOS broken...... who knows
The knowledge that you never have to spend a more than a few dimes total and none of "your own"...
Priceless.
So please OP... we all seem to be here to help, could you further clarify?
I have a real good business idea but need around 15 thounsands
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