I signed up to Tinder last Friday. I have literally liked 99. Now I know I'm more Bradley Branning than Bradley Cooper but still. I'm not Leo DiCaprio but I'm not the elephant man. If you're a normal guy,You know yourself full and well if you chat up 800 girls, you could get with around 80 of em and let's say sleep with at least 10. OP keep your chin up. Also dating sites are simply a shopping mall where people look for exclusive items that cannot be found on the high street. The longer you're on there, the more your confidence and overall self-worth will drop. Same applies to most young people mainly men who spend their days on it. OP keep your chin up. Also dating sites are simply a shopping mall where people look for exclusive items that cannot be found on the high street. The longer you're on there, the more your confidence and overall self-worth will drop. Same applies to most young people mainly men who spend their days on it. Not a single one. Like I say, I knew I wasn't anything special, but didn't realise 0 girls out of 800 didn't want me by Siman89 But no matches? Not a single one. Like I say, I knew I wasn't anything special, but didn't realise 0 girls out of 800 didn't want me Online is different from in person though. If you're a normal guy,You know yourself full and well if you chat up 800 girls, you could get with around 80 of em and let's say sleep with at least 10. Actually yes and no. Average joes, which the Op is, are facing an uphil struggle. I know plenty of player-types who have incredible vanity issues with these things and want the best pictures of them on it. These pictures are what the girls seek. When you give women the power through online dating sites and apps, your ability to get a lay up or attention as a man is severaly diminished. Dont get me started on the pretty girls, they are like hot coals. Average joes, which the Op is, are facing an uphil struggle. I know plenty of player-types who have incredible vanity issues with these things and want the best pictures of them on it. These pictures are what the girls seek. When you give women the power through online dating sites and apps, your ability to get a lay up or attention as a man is severaly diminished. Dont get me started on the pretty girls, they are like hot coals. You sound pretty bitter about this. Surely they want the top 10% because they feel they can get them? If you see an average looking girl and an attractive looking girl, who do you go for? I haven't used Tinder as I've got a girlfriend, but I think the problem is that any guy can go on it, and upload a picture, so as you say, you're going to get a massive bell curve with the best looking guys getting all the messages. Talking to women in real life takes actual courage and skill, so you have an advantage by doing that. One thing I have read is that people do better of Tinder with a fun photo. The OP is an alright looking guy, but that photo wouldn't stand out from a list, it doesn't show much personality. Average joes, which the Op is, are facing an uphil struggle. I know plenty of player-types who have incredible vanity issues with these things and want the best pictures of them on it. These pictures are what the girls seek. When you give women the power through online dating sites and apps, your ability to get a lay up or attention as a man is severaly diminished. Dont get me started on the pretty girls, they are like hot coals. Tbh, I find going out to meet girls more effective than online. On Tinder, girls get 10+ matches a day, so they start being picky. I know myself I don't really have troubles in real life. I'm tall, look athletic and would like to say I look better than most. And that's without me lowering my standards possible beer goggles haha On Tinder, it's just not in my favour. I did hear that the matching thing is messed up on Android phones however. Tinder is a bit black and white as a guy- if you're good looking enough, you'll get loads of matches and it'll boost your ego. If you're average to above average, you'll think you're an ugly mutt because of the lack of matches, thus deflating your ego. Always better to meet people in real life, as you have no idea who's behind that computer screen by Mankytoes You sound pretty bitter about this. Surely they want the top 10% because they feel they can get them? If you see an average looking girl and an attractive looking girl, who do you go for? I haven't used Tinder as I've got a girlfriend, but I think the problem is that any guy can go on it, and upload a picture, so as you say, you're going to get a massive bell curve with the best looking guys getting all the messages. Talking to women in real life takes actual courage and skill, so you have an advantage by doing that. One thing I have read is that people do better of Tinder with a fun photo. The OP is an alright looking guy, but that photo wouldn't stand out from a list, it doesn't show much personality. It's not the best picture in the world, but I thought we were meant to put pictures just showing us up, so I cropped my face and didn't want to take a selfie. I'm not sure how I'm meant to show a picture with 'personality'. I have pictures with friends I could put up but won't that just confuse the girl as to which one I am, then disappoint her when she realises? Also I don't think the girls in their are interested in guys 'personality'. I don't mean to sound bitter although I am but if an ugly guy like myself is picky on that app people would say 'you're too picky, you've got to lower your standards', or 'you're so shallow just trying to get a good looking girl'. Whereas average or even uglier girls expect to get matches with George Clooney and people don't say anything about it. I was interested to see what it was like so I downloaded it. I've had a fair few matches with some girls. Some actually want to talk and meet up... Just change your pics up. Don't take it too seriously. Surely they want the top 10% because they feel they can get them? If you see an average looking girl and an attractive looking girl, who do you go for? I haven't used Tinder as I've got a girlfriend, but I think the problem is that any guy can go on it, and upload a picture, so as you say, you're going to get a massive bell curve with the best looking guys getting all the messages. Talking to women in real life takes actual courage and skill, so you have an advantage by doing that. One thing I have read is that people do better of Tinder with a fun photo. The OP is an alright looking guy, but that photo wouldn't stand out from a list, it doesn't show much personality. Stop trying to nitpick about something which isn't there. My post was a truthful reflection of online relations between men and women. I am the guy in the top % and I have seen enough to know the dynamics of the game. Average joes with great pictures get more attention. Good looking guys with a knowledge of what gets to a woman are killing it, believe me. There are reason why that if you know you can talk and game women, you will most likely get laid that night in a club or bar. Same goes for tinder but its harder, you are a static picture compared to your real life self. You cannot carry yourself into a girls head like you would when faced with each other. Surely they want the top 10% because they feel they can get them? If you see an average looking girl and an attractive looking girl, who do you go for? Things like Tinder exasperate the problem. I'm not sure how I'm meant to show a picture with 'personality'. I have pictures with friends I could put up but won't that just confuse the girl as to which one I am, then disappoint her when she realises? Yeah group photos aren't good, they really irritated me when I went on it as I then had to flick through to see if they had others. I'd rather a selfie than a badly cropped photo though selfies aren't great for guys, but better than that Or get a friend to take one? Maybe another group one up, another doing something active or whatever. That way, anyone who dismisses you instantly isn't worth it, if they stop to look then hey ho maximise your chances by marinaim Yeah group photos aren't good, they really irritated me when I went on it as I then had to flick through to see if they had others. I'd rather a selfie than a badly cropped photo though selfies aren't great for guys, but better than that Or get a friend to take one? Maybe another group one up, another doing something active or whatever. That way, anyone who dismisses you instantly isn't worth it, if they stop to look then hey ho maximise your chances Getting a friend to take one seems like a lot of effort just to be rejected again. It's not really the picture that's the problem, it's the face. You can't polish a turd. Tell us a little about yourself to get started.
