Plentyoffish dating forums are a place to meet singles and get dating advice or share dating experiences etc. Hopefully you will all have fun meeting singles and try out this online dating thing... Remember that we are the largest free online dating service, so you will never have to pay a dime to meet your soulmate. The submissive part in the bedroom is always fun, but there are times when I need the woman to take control. I do know men that would prefer a submissive woman. They are typically the guys who like to argue every little point and would rather everyone let them have their way. I guess it depends on the level of submission. My preferance is to be with a confident woman who has no problem holding her own in the workplace, bedroom, or life in general. Don't call me old fashioned, I actually respect women. I'm not looking for a guy to not be respectful. It also doesnt mean that she cant be opinionated at times about things, or have her own ideas. I just happen to think that the mans word should be the final word. What I know about a submissive woman apparently isn't much, lol. I certainly would hope that you would want a man that did fully respect you. As far as the man having the final word, I am man enough to admit that I have made the wrong choice a time or two, and a little input is very welcome. I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, I was simply stating my observations over the years. Some men walk all over their women, which pisses me off, but I often thought that the woman was too submissive. As long as you guys know I was RIGHT to begin with! Being 'submissive' to me, means that the 'best opinion' rules..... BUT, if comes down to my personal dignity and choices..... I always give my input too. I just think it would be nice for a change to have a MAN instead of the ones I have had experiences with. I can't wait for this thread to take off.... Man's got the final say huh? Not in my lifetime Jen I think the final say should be a meeting of the minds, not just cause he has the gonads. When I get to sit home and he is the only bread winner in this family then maybe he has the right to a little more say, but as long as I am working and bringing home the bacon too... As for in the bedroom... LOL, ok I'm behaving, hand me some popcorn please Ripley? Im thinking maybe just plain ol old fashioned? I could very well be wrong, but to me being submissive means that you give up ALL control and give it all to the man. That is actually a lifestyle choice that many people actually choose to live by. I think being old fashioned is somewhat similar but not to that extreme. However, that decision would be gained by use of your insight as well. And if I may add another point. If I'm making A-L-L the decisions, couldn't that be interpreted as indifference on your part? And if so, would that necessarily be good for the relationship? Now pass the flammin' popcorn.... Hey, who is up for a little less salt and butter on the next batch? Please don't make me decide alone. LOL Just one man's humble opinion. OP-you mean you just don't like clingy, whinning, mamas' boys?... I want a MAN to be a MAN, not a boy! Now I am looking at this whole can of worms that I have opened, and I think I am sort thinking about it more and more, OMGosh, I wish I wasnt such a deep thinker sometimes. I may get slammed here but what is wrong with a woman wanting a man to be the dominant one in a relationship? He will in fact respect her and treat her with dignity. He will want her input in decision making and listen to her opinions. While the final decision is his he is secure enough to try to do things her way. He tries to do what is best and right for the relationship, not for himself. If he is wrong he will admit it and do what is needed to make things right. She knows her part in the relationship is just as important as her partners. She may be a stronger person than the people who see her as being weak. She knows her partner respects her and that is big part of the reason she is with him. Many relationships develop never having discussed anything about being submissive or dominant. It is just the nature of the people and why they were drawn to each other. Does it ever go badly? There are relationships where both people are dominant that fail as well. It must, what else could it mean!!! Certainly two people have to agree..... Would I tell you GUYS how to lay flooring? Or how to patch a wall? And of course, you don't tell me how clean a house or MOP a floor.... I cleaned up that spot, Michkat...... Either two people agree, or someone has to 'pass the reins' to the person who knows best...... Now, pour me a glass of wine, and I'll make the spinach dip, salsa special and the shrimp tray...... Should we leave these two alone??? Hmmm John, I need to think on what you said, I certainly would never bash you, remember? We're having spinach dip, salsa stuff and chips and some shrimp... Lighthouselady said all we had to do was keep passing her white wine! I have a awesome pair of kneepads too for when you meet greeneyes, they were my ex's.