StarScream's DIY @ Home Opioid Withdrawal Detox

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  1. StarScream's DIY @ Home Opioid Withdrawal Detox
  2. by /u/StarScream999 Harm Reduction Guy
  3. DIY @ Home Opioid/Opiate Withdrawal With Reduced Pain and Agony
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  6. This is a method I used many times in the past when I was an opioid addict for the past 20 years, and when I ran out of my supply or I couldn't get anything else, I used this method which really cuts down on the withdrawal symptoms (although there is still going to be some suffering depending on how long you've been using).
  8. I recommend buying this stuff BEFORE you start on any opioid adventure, because I promise you, eventually your pack is going to get delayed, or you're not going to be able to find a source, and you're going to start getting very sick and going through withdrawal. If you've ever done cold turkey opioid withdrawal, you know what I'm talking about, if not, I will tell you, you will be sick as a dog, can hardly get out of bed, and can barely eat or even get up to shit sometimes. Forget about going in to work, because you're basically a walking corpse.
  10. Clonidine
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  13. So, here is the two main supplies you will need. The first drug you're going to need is called clonidine aka Catapres, Catapres-TTS, Duraclon, Jenloga, and Kapvay.
  15. I did a quick search on Kilos and did not find anyone on DNMs selling this stuff, which kind of surprises me because bodybuilders use it to increase growth hormone output, so I would have thought some steroid dealers might carry it, but it seems like you'll have to buy it from a clearnet offshore pharmacy. I know of 1, but it's quite pricey at 100 tablets of 150mcg for $90. And you're going to need at least 300mcg twice a day for this to work. So, I don't know what the source posting guides are in this forum, but if you can find some for cheaper, please let us know.
  17. Clonidine, sold under the brand name Catapres among others, is an adrenergic α2 agonist[7] medication used to treat high blood pressure, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, drug withdrawal (alcohol, opioids, or smoking), menopausal flushing, diarrhea, spasticity and certain pain conditions.[8] It is used by mouth, by injection, or as a skin patch.[8] Onset of action is typically within an hour with the effects on blood pressure lasting for up to eight hours.
  19. Drug withdrawal
  21. Clonidine may be used to ease drug withdrawal symptoms associated with abruptly stopping the long-term use of opioids, alcohol, benzodiazepines and nicotine.[26] It can alleviate opioid withdrawal symptoms by reducing the sympathetic nervous system response such as tachycardia and hypertension, hyperhidrosis (excessive sweating), hot and cold flashes, and akathisia.[27] It may also be helpful in aiding smokers to quit.[28] The sedation effect is also useful. However, its side effects can sometimes include insomnia, thus exacerbating an already common feature of most withdrawal syndromes.
  24. Source
  26. Passionflower
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  29. So, here is the second ingredient you're going to need, and luckily it's OTC. It's called Passionflora (Passionflower) Extract and you're going to want to make sure you buy the alcohol extract of it in liquid. It tastes god awful, but it works. The one I linked is the only alcohol extract I could find through Google. You're probably going to need about two bottles anyway, as withdrawal normally lasts about 2 weeks (again, depending on how long you've been using and the amount you've been using).
  31. Passionflora (Passionflower) Extract: https://amzn.to/3FU1yop
  33. The Study Demonstrating Clonidine & Passionflower's Usefulness
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  36. So, here is the study that puts this all together:
  38. Passionfower in the treatment of opiates withdrawal:
  39. a double-blind randomized controlled trial
  41. SUMMARY
  42. Objective: Clonidine-based therapies have been utilized as the main protocol for opiate detoxication for several years. However, detoxication with clonidine has its limitations, including lack of effcacy for mental symptoms. Accumulating evidence shows the efficacy of Passifora incarnata extract in the management of anxiety. In our continuing study of traditional medicines, which have neurotropic effects, this plant had an anxiolytic effect, which may be used as an adjuvant agent in the detoxifcation of opiates by clonidine.
  44. We present the results of a double-blind randomized controlled trial of clonidine plus passifora extract vs. clonidine plus placebo in the out patient detoxication of 65 opiates addicts.
  46. Methods: A total of 65 opiates addicts were assigned randomly to treatment with passifora extract plus clonidine tablet or clonidine tablet plus placebo drop during a 14-day double-blind clinical trial. All patients met the DSM IV criteria for opioid dependence. The daily dose was 60 drops of passifora extract and a maximum daily dose of 0.8 mg of clonidine administered in three divided doses. The severity of the opiate withdrawal syndrome was measured on days 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 7 and 14 using the Short Opiate Withdrawal Scale (SOWS).
  48. Conclusion: Both protocols were equally effective in treating the physical symptoms of withdrawal syndromes. However, the passifora plus clonidine group showed a significant superiority over clonidine alone in the management of mental symptoms. These results suggested that passifora extract may be an effective adjutant agent in the management of opiate withdrawal. However, a larger study to confirm our results is warranted.
  51. Source
  53. Full study: https://files.catbox.moe/9x8vmu.pdf (PM if this link goes down)
  55. The Study Protocols Translated to Real World Uses
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  58. So, looking at the full study for instructions uses the following protocols.
  60. Study design
  61. All study subjects were randomly assigned to receive detoxication using either clonidine 0.8 mg/day plus passifora extract 60 drops/day or clonidine 0.8 mg/day plus placebo 60 drops/day on a double-blind basis. This trial medication was given three times per day in divided doses.
  63. Drug schedule
  64. The lowest daily dose of clonidine was 0.3 mg and was increased to 0.8 mg in four days. No other psychotropic medication was prescribed.
  68. So, the clonidine I see for sale is 150mcg/tablet. That comes out to 0.15mg. So, if you split one tablet you would have 7.5mg which is pretty much equivalent to the 0.8mg used in the study. Then you would add 60 "drops" of passionflora extract. No where in the study does it specify the amount a "drop" is, but I recall using 1 to 2ml of passionflora extract per dosage.
  70. The other issue with the study is they gave these dosages in three split doses three times a day. So, we're going to have to do a little bit of finagling of these doses to get this to work. What you actually might want to do is take 7.5mg of clonidine along with 2ml of passionflora 3 times a day. Again, this depends on how much you've been using, how long you've been using, etc.
  72. This is not an unsafe amount and you might want to use even more clonidine than 7.5mg. However, clonidine is primarily a blood pressure drug, so you have to be careful with it. I recall personally using 300mcg 3 times a day because I was in such withdrawal agony. But, you will have to experiment with the dosages to see. If you have an at home BP monitor, you may want to use it. If not, you may want to consider buying one. This Omron Upper Blood Pressure Monitor with Cuff 3 Series is only $30 and can really help to tell what's going on with your blood pressure. That would be ideal while you're using clonidine to make sure your BP levels are not dropping to excessively low levels while you're experimenting with the dosage.
  73. Omron Upper Blood Pressure Monitor: https://amzn.to/3lSwfTa
  75. However, in summation, I can tell you that using this protocol vs. not using this protocol will leave you feeling much better with the clonidine and passionflower protocol than without it. I have done cold turkey and clonidine/passionflower, and the suffering is significantly lessened by this combination than without it. There will still be lots of the common withdrawal symptoms, but they are much lessened with this.
  77. However, if you get into this or feel like you need help, don't be too proud to ask for it. There are many resources out there for you, and if you want to get on suboxone or methadone, I don't blame you.
  79. Here is a list of Suicide Hotlines, Mental Health Counseling, and Addiction Service hotlines from the USA, UK, Canada, NZ and the rest of the world:
  81. Suicide, Mental Health Crisis & Addiction Recovery Phone Numbers from Around the World: https://bitbin.it/7YzHxrIs/
  83. Possible Sources of Clonidine
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  86. Now, here is an Indian pharmacy that I personally cannot vouch for that sells 100mcg Clonidine 100 tablets for only $10. https://www.alldaychemist.com/arkamin-100-mcg.html
  87. Now, MyWOT (Web of Trust) gives it a score of 2.2/10, however, all the reviewers say they have had no problem with the site. So, unless the site is trying to rig the review scores with bots or fake reviews, it looks like it might be okay. However, my one of my custom lists in adblocker did try and block me from visiting this site, so this gives me pause as well. Do more research before you order.
  88. https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/alldaychemist.com
  90. I found a list of other online clearnet pharmacies through the following link https://br.similarsites.com/site/inhousepharmacy.vu. I CANNOT VOUCH FOR ANY OF THEM - SO USE AT YOUR OWN RISK AND RESEARCH THEM BEFORE YOU ORDER FROM THEM. Check common sites like bbb.org, ripoffreport.com, mywot.com, and just Google "site name reviews" and see what you can come up with. Most of these ship from India or other places like Vanuatu, Thailand, Indonesia, the Philippines, etc. Clonidine is not a controlled or scheduled drug, so it should have no problem passing through customs. However, shipping times can be incredibly slow, especially coming from Asia or India. Canada is obviously a bit faster.
  92. If you know of a legitimate pharmacy, DNM vendor or other source of clonidine, please feel free to share it and I will add it to the list.
  94. Now, finally, I want to give you some other suggestions on some supplements and drugs that might alleviate your withdrawal symptoms.
  96. Drugs and Supplements to Help Alleviate Withdrawal
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  99. * Aleve (naproxen sodium) - This is the most potent NSAID on the OTC market and take 2 pills with food twice a day as it lasts for 12 hours. https://amzn.to/3lTjOGF
  100. * Immodium (loperamide hcl) - With withdrawal you're going to experience diarrhea. I linked to the liquid version of generic Immodium as I felt that was more comfortable to use, however, you can also get the tablets or liquid gels. One note about this is DO NOT MEGADOSE THIS! Some people are under the impression that megadosing loperamide will work like an opioid, when this is not the case. It does not cross the blood brain barrier and will give you massive constipation and other potential problems. https://amzn.to/3FZTYIM
  101. * Ashwagandha - Ashwagandha is labeled as an 'adaptogen' which is kind of pseudoscience term for meaning it can do anything. However, there have been many studies on Ashwagandha and many people tout it's benefits highly, however, I have never had any positive experiences with it myself. There are 3 forms of Ashwagandha on the market currently: Sensoril, KSM-66, and Shoden. This article from Nootropics Depot explains the differences. It sounds like the ideal version for withdrawal would be the Sensoril version. https://amzn.to/3AVIZMS
  102. * Rhodiola Rosea - Rhodiola Rosea is another supplement in the category of 'adaptogens', but it is supposed to have a calming and relaxing effect, especially when combined with the other compounds in this list. https://amzn.to/3FVG8as
  103. * Kava Kava is one of my favorite herbs as it's essentially like herbal Valium. It is very relaxing and can help you sleep or just relax. This is one I would highly recommend. I have listed NOW Kava which has a 30% kavalactone extract, which is the active ingredient responsible for it's effects and 30% is a very high amount. If you want to try powdered/instantized/micronized kava powder, I recommend Kalm With Kava. You can drink it in some hot water, some people complain about the taste, but IMO, it doesn't bother me and I've been drinking it for years. To enhance the effects, mix it with some lecithin which will bind with the kavalactones and enhance the effectiveness of it. You can mix it in a blender or use a simple kitchen whisker as the lecithin will clump up if you just try and stir it. You can also use some a little bit of whole milk.
  104. NOW Kava Kava: https://a1-supplements.com/now-kava-kava-extract
  105. Kalm with Kava: https://kalmwithkava.com/shop/micronized-kava/
  106. Lecithin: https://amzn.to/3ASD5MH
  107. Kitchen Whisker: https://amzn.to/3aN8V2z
  108. * L-Theanine - Theanine is a very relaxing amino acid that has a variety of mechanisms theorized for how it functions to do this. Some studies have shown that it reduces alpha waves in the brain, while it also increases serotonin, dopamine, glycine levels (another amino acid responsible for relaxation), attaches to the NDMA receptor sites and may inhibit glutamate excitotoxicity. What this all means in laymans terms is that it's very relaxing and calming and brings on a general feeling of well being. I linked to the 200mg version which is quite strong and will help much more than the standard 100mg version.
  109. L-Theanine: https://amzn.to/3vkn29b
  110. * A Multivitamin and B Complex - Admit it that your diet while you've been on opioids has been shit and you are probably depleted in a lot of different vitamins and minerals. I did a pretty extensive search for multivitamins that had ingredients that would address the nervous system or help with relaxation but came up pretty short. So, I would just recommend Optimum Opti-Men for men and Optimum Opti-Women for the ladies. These are just multivitamins with the basics in them with some special ingredients thrown in for problems the various sexes face. In addition to that, I would recommend a B Vitamin Complex which will help your nervous system as many of these ingredients are responsible for mood and well being.
  111. Optimum Opti-Men: https://a1-supplements.com/optimum-nutrition-opti-men
  112. Optimum Opti-Women: https://a1-supplements.com/optimum-nutrition-opti-women
  113. B Vitamin Complex: https://a1-supplements.com/now-b-100-caps
  116. I encourage you to research these supplements for yourself on unbiased sites like examine.com and Wikipedia.
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