Anyone planning to stock up on Switch Pro Controllers in preparation for the release of might want to reconsider - with reporting the game won't support the alternative control method. This discovery follows the Nintendo earlier this week Europe would be receiving a special Joy-Con bundle for the game. The bundle itself won't arrive until 23rd November, which is a while after game's release on 5th October. At this point in time, there's no word about the deal releasing in other regions. In saying this, when you are holding a party, it won't be a matter of reaching for any controller in sight, as you'll now need exactly four Joy-Con on-hand. With other series like previously allowing you to use any controller you own, how do you feel about Mario Party limiting your choices? Would this stop you from playing? Would you like to see Nintendo eventually release a patch to make the game compatible with this control style - much like it has with other controllers in titles like? The pro controller is the most comfortable video game controller I've ever used, and the only one I can comfortably play for long times. The joy cons otoh are awful for my arthritis. This definitely makes me not want to play, while I was looking forward to this before. This is a party game where it is just meant to be fun and not a serious gaming session. But of course it can GET serious depending on how competitve you are haha. With the Nintendo Online you would think they would be able to sustain a game board online. Sure games usually take hours to complete, but strategy games Civilisation series comes to mind have had work arounds for ages now, allowing hosts to save and load with same player IDs. People are not thinking the game would or should need a Pro-controller at all. People were hoping they could use one in place of a regular Joy-Con controller as an option. I depends how they are used. The only thing the Joy-Cons has that the Pro-Controller doesn't is the camera, but that is only on one of a pair of Joy-Cons so seems unlikely to be being used. I guess it might seem weird for mini-games that involve more motion control to be waving about a Pro-controller, but if people are happy to do so why not let them? I don't know, it may become apparent later why, but I can understand why people who have spare Pro-controllers are reluctant to buy more Joy-Cons for this. And I also notice that no one can answer what exact joycon features it uses that the procontroller doesn't have? Is it really only a camera? My fear came through. I hate the Joycons, I find the analogue sticks are super unreliable when compared to the pro controller and it lacks a dpad, I only use them in handheld mode and for me thats 1% of the time. Most Minigames look to be played held on its side so Im puzzled why Pro Controller has been left out. Keep on creating or restricting certain games around gimmickry control schemes, instead of giving people a choice. I sometimes wish the Wii never happened. I'm not too bothered anyway, but clearly many are. This isn't a popular decision. That price is waaaay too high to pay for a controller that isn't supported 100%. Now i won't be buying Mario Party for many reasons and this wasn't included anyway. But now i also will not be buying a pro controller because im not spending that kinda money on a controller that i won't be able to use on every game. Who knows what other games Nintendo plan to release that will not support the over priced pro controller? Yeah i love Nintendo but i don't like to throw money away. You need a whole room for Nintendo accessories alone if you buy them all. Now I think having a good controller for everything is much better and my favourite one is the Xbox One controller although the Switch pro controller is also good except for the D-pad. But then Nintendo decides you can't even use it with some games and they also ditched the Wii U pro controller that has the same Bluetooth connection and would be useful at least optionally for games that don't require motion controls, that is, 99% of the games. If you think that's okay then you are part of the problem when Nintendo does something so anti consumer. If you don't think it's okay, then you need to pipe down and stop defending this sort of anti consumer practice. Either way you are in the wrong. You are fixated on what the mini games need to play... It doesn't really matter how you play or dont play the mini games... None of that actually matters... The only thing that matters is they are charging £70 for a controller that isn't used on every single game. If you have such a stupidly over priced controller on the market, you need to make damn sure its 100% supported on every single game. For Nintendo themselves not to support it is the very height of anti consumerism... And there is no way you can defend that without looking like an ass. The D-pad of the Wii Remote is not accurate for the 3D platforming mini games though. What I wanted to say is that most regular players hate the joy cons, especially adults. Doesn't matter if it's optional or not... If you are going to charge people such a high price for it... Then you need to make damn sure its used on every game you make. Especially if you actually made and designed the Pro controller yourself, priced it yourself, then decided to limit its support? There is no circumstance where its okay to charge £70 for any item if you intend to limit its useage. Why make it so damn expensive? Nope you are 100% wrong here. I find it overpriced as well. However a games designed should not be hindered to include the support of an optional purchase. I will completely backtrack my opinion on the non inclusion of the Pro controller if Super Mario Party doesn't show it's reliance on needing the use of the joycons or functions the Pro controller does not offer. However much the Pro Controller is better than the Joycons at the least in typical play doesn't deter that it may just not be feasible to use for what Nintendo has designed for this game. It is an optional purchase first and foremost, even if a more forced upon option for us big handed folk. For me I think using the motion control made that game harder but for others that was their go to way to play. Having more options is always better. If you intend to create a game that from its core cannot use the pro controller then that itself is anti consumer. Either way you cut it... For Nintendo not to include support for this is anti consumer. Forget how the games are played... That should be changed to accommodate your over priced controller. We are making a lot of assumptions without actually knowing anything on the games design needs. Does 1 2 Switch have Pro controller support? Genuinly don't know I would think in the games design it would be similar to how that is handled. A bunch of Mario skinned mini games to show off the joycon tech. It's also very noticeable playing Super Mario Odyssey co-operative mode, one of the players gets a very weird buttons layout, so the unfairness of using a pro controller is replicated by the joy-cons. The joy-cons is one of the worst things Nintendo has ever made, in my opinion. Almost like the software around labo is meant to go with the labo... But Mario Party started its life on normal controllers and did fine for 2 generations on normal controllers. Edit: 1-2 switch was also very anti consumer, its another subject but to charge that much for a showcase game is criminal. I never really detach the the JoyCon that came with my Switch and I have 2 Pro controllers for docked use at home... If I ever need 4 controllers, I planned ot use the 2 JoyCon separated and the 2 Pros... I will definitely want to play Mario Party with 4 controllers... Most games support the pro controller. If the game uses a more traditional control scheme then the developer would be foolish to limit the options the player will have. Mario Party, and 1-2-Switch both don't support the pro controller and both use a non-traditional control scheme that is designed around the joy-cons. For these games, limiting the controllers to joy-cons only makes sense. For further proof, look at Arm's. This game was designed around using the montion controls of the joy-cons to play the game. Nintendo makes decisions for each game based on what will work best for each individual game. I don't think the joycons are a waste of money for the same reason. They are even more expensive but are 100% supported and have many uses. The VR is a waste of money, not because it isn't 100% supported but because it will never really work, at least not in gaming. But any meaningful game requires a lot more time think Skyrim to get into and any longer than 2 hours with those headsets is not adviced and not possible. It's essentially like putting a bag over your head and moving around for long periods of time, its not advisable at all. Experiences last for a short time. Meaningful games last much longer. My argument makes perfect sense from a consumer stand point. The less confusion as to how to play each mini game the better, and since everyone has the same controllers nobody will be unsure. Plus, those joycons seem about perfect for playing motion based mini games, and this time there's no sensor bar to fiddle with. I would have like to have used the Pro Controller, but, seeing as they don't need to make accommodations to fit that controller, the games present here should be the way they were intended to be played. Or should it have been loaded with the same tech as the joy cons and charged more for? It's a great controller that I prefer to use for most games. My sons prefer the Joycons and use them most of the time. It is my opinion that Nintendo makes quality products and I myself haven't had to replace a controller since my original N64 analog stick broke so I do not feel the pro is overpriced. I never even thought for a second that it would be used and I'm fine with that. Absolutely, there was belly aching over who got to use what controller - but that is way more fun than only 4 people getting to participate due to availability of specific controllers. You are right though, you can't tell me or anyone for that matter, that a £70 controller thats 30% more expensive than the competition and is being limited in what you can use it for by the very company that made it and priced it, isn't over priced. Doing so would simply make you wrong. I except you'll be buying more Joycons to play with this game instead then? So tell me again why you brought the pro controller? Full motion, HD rumble, a joystick, and four buttons. The justifications need to stop. I love Nintendo too, but like a great parent who loves their children, they must scold when appropriate. This is just unjustifiable. I keep seeing this argument being made when the facts destroy it. And seeing how this was NINTENDO'S decision to axe support in Super Mario Party, there's really no excuse left for them. It might not be ideal, but that should be MY decision, not Nintendo's. Player agency is still a value all gamers should hold. Secondly, Mario Party usually has modes where you can specifically choose which games you'd like to play. So for those you might find a tad uncomfortable, dont choose them. They're taking away player choice for their own marketing purposes; the pure definition of anti-consumer behavior. As for your argument on choice, why don't we go back in time and boycott every Wii game that didn't support the classic controller? No one forced you to buy a pro controller, nor did anyone ever promise it would be compatible with every game. Nintendo's done a great job ensuring the majority of games work with or without motion, with a pro controller, in handheld mode, and supporting single joycon play. Give them a break for asking you to use a certain control scheme for one game. Maybe I'm the one who will opt to play with the Pro, seeing as how i clearly stated that i found it more comfortable in some ways. Who are you to tell me it's not? That actually made sense. Nobody is alleging criminal activity. I'm suggesting they did it just to sell more joycons, which many here seem to be falling for. As a regular customer, and someone who is interested in business and economics, I have a right to voice my concerns just as much as you have a right to voice your acceptance of horrible business practices. None of you points are relevant to mine. You were unable to practically explain why ONLY joycons should be used. So no, I will not excuse Nintendo for making yet another anti-consumer decision. Nintendo is not your child. Stop defending them as if they are. Gonna whip up a quick video. Edit: there is also the chance some of the games work off of the 2 single joycons working off one another....... I obviously don't know that, but there are legitimate reasons why just joycons is justified..... What can the joy cons do that the Pro can't? You get 2 joycon out of the box so you can at least play it out of the box. People are just looking for ways to flame nintendo, now that they are killing it with the switch. The excuses get weaker and more desperate by the minute. Snipper Clips Launched as a Joy-Con only game, and months later it got patched to support Pro Controllers. There was no reason for Snipper Clips to ever be a Joy-Con only game, much like imo Mario Party. So maybe it will get a patch to support Pro Controllers. Now it's terrible practice to limit what controllers can be used with software, theres no defending that. Nintendo and their decisions lately drive me bonkers. I'll probably avoid this game until it does get a patch not holding breath AND is a decent price. It is entertaining to try and experiment with the immersive controls, but I for one have a preference for traditional use of buttons. The fact that usage of more traditional controls isn't an option is a little disconcerting. Still, thinking about giving this game a shot. Unfortunately, all of my childhood memories of Mario Party reside in the wrong place MP 8 ; I'm certain that this will be an improvement though. The fuel that powers Nintendo's dark side is people justifying perversely anything that Nintendo does. For anyone with a healthy brain and looking from the outside is ridiculous and cringeworthy. The joycons came with the system, it would be dumber if a game won't support joycons at all. Pro controller can't do all what a single joycon or a split joycons can. Then I stepped back and thought it is not crazy button combinations like a fighting game or super tight controlls like a platformer. I am looking forward to seeing what unique things they have in store. I haven't cared about the series since the first one. Sounds like it will be the game 1-2 Switch wishes it could have been. People are so silly wishing for a regular controller on this one. COuld most console games do this? Can a game that uses all joycons features be made to use regular controllers however? You cannot, therefore they aren't. I can think of several ways the joycons would work to preclude the pro controller for this game.
