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  1. the State, in our June issue, we showed conclusively that the
  2. theory is absurd; and that in the endeavor to escape the absurd
  3. consequences of their position, the National Reform Party resort to a
  4. fallacy which involves them in the inconsistency of holding beings
  5. subject to that to which, according to the theory, they cannot be
  6. subject. But we say again that we see no ground for hope that that
  7. party will ever abandon either the fallacy or the absurdity. For, as the
  8. theory is absurd, and as they affirm that the theory is fundamental to
  9. this whole movement, it is evident that absurdity is inherent in the
  10. whole National Reform system. That is not only the logic of the
  11. question, but it is strictly in accordance with all the facts in the case.
  12. The absurdity of the view that the State is a person distinct from
  13. the individuals that compose it, is made more apparent when we
  14. consider the obligations of a nation, or State, as such. Doctor Sloane
  15. in a speech on this subject in the Cincinnati National Reform
  16. Convention, instanced the fact that "Great Britain, France, Italy, and
  17. our own country own enormous debts." But we would inquire of the
  18. National Reform Party, Does this personality, which you call the
  19. State, of Great Britain, France, Italy, or the United States, own this
  20. debt distinct from the people? and will it pay it distinct from the
  21. people? When Germany laid upon France the war indemnity of five
  22. milliards of francs, was it laid upon a "personality" distinct from the
  23. individuals that compose the nation? and when it was paid was it paid
  24. by such a distinct personality? To the minds of all reasonable men, to
  25. ask these questions is to answer them. These National Reform
  26. religio-political economists know as well as anybody does, that of the
  27. war indemnity exacted from France by Germany, every franc came
  28. from the people who compose the State, and not from some
  29. hypothetical "individual personality" distinct from the people. They
  30. know full well that every dollar of the national debt of our own country
  31. that has ever been paid has been paid by the people of the United
  32. States, and not a cent of it by any such theoretical absurdity as the
  33. National Reform Party defines to be the State.
  34. Does the National Reform Party mean to say that, when it gets its
  35. iniquity framed by a law, and has thus perfected its idea of the
  36. personality of a State, it will have the State a personality so entirely
  37. distinct and separate from that of the people, that the State will pay
  38. the national debt without any help on the part of the people? No. That
  39. party itself, we do them the justice to suppose, would pronounce the
  40. idea preposterous. And so do we. But if it be so, where is the sense
  41. of all their argument about the personality of the State as distinct from
  42. the personality of the people who compose the State? If the State has
  43. a personality, an individuality of its own, and a soul of its own as
  44. distinct from that of any or all of the people who compose it, as is that
  45. of General Sherman or Mr. Blaine, then why can't it pay its debts
  46. distinct from the people, as General Sherman or Mr. Blaine pays his?
  47. The very idea is absurd.
  48. Again, Prof. O. N. Stoddard, in the Cincinnati Convention, said:–
  49. "If the character and liabilities of the State are not distinct from
  50. those of its individual members, then the State is punished
  51. hereafter in the persons of its subjects."
  52. We would like Professor Stoddard or any other of the National
  53. Reformers to show where a State has ever been or ever can be
  54. punished, either here or hereafter, except in the persons of its
  55. subjects. When France was punished for its ill-advised declaration of
  56. war upon Germany, did the punishment fall upon the State distinct
  57. from the persons of its subjects? When Rome was punished for the
  58. fearfulness of her iniquities–when from the Rhine and the Danube to
  59. the deserts of Africa, and from the Black Sea and the Hellespont to
  60. the wall of Antoninus and the Atlantic Ocean, the whole empire w

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