Backstory: After a unfortunate game, TheWarlock lashes out at fabbbyyy for his performance claiming that fabbbyyy wasn't taking the game seriously and "trolling" resulting his team losing. Meteos states that fabbbyyy is simply having a bad game and that at the very least he wasn't blaming anyone as opposed to TheWarlock whom Meteos states as "annoying" for calling out fabbbyyy on his misplays. TheWarlock defends himself by thoroughly analyzing fabbbyyy's misplays, one of which is "flashing into tower dry, and dying". Meteos then tries to explain to TheWarlock that bashing out on his teammates during a game will only lead to putting his teammates on tilt and therefore it is pointless to do so.TheWarlock rebuttals by saying that calling each other out on their mistakes is worthwhile as it allows people to improve off of criticism, however he does understand Meteos's point of view. TheWarlock then begins to lash out on the competitive NA scene as a whole and states that the root of its problems is NA high elo players or mainly "Challenger" level players not taking Solo Q seriously enough, as he soon begins to make a comparison between NA solo Q and KR solo Q. Soon after, TheWarlock begins to discuss with Meteos why he feels that NA Challenger level players should take solo Q more seriously...
TheWarlock: with what i do
TheWarlock: thats good enough for me
C10 Meteos: clearly you dont live a fulfilling life if you're sitting here raging at someone playing badly
TheWarlock: i only do that in solo q
TheWarlock: maybe i should stop playing league
TheWarlock: then
C10 Meteos: yeah you probably should
TheWarlock: but i really like competing
TheWarlock: and league is the most developped skill i have
TheWarlock: so i will not quit it anytime soon
C10 Meteos: competing is fine
C10 Meteos: i like competing too
C10 Meteos: but you can do it without being an asshole
TheWarlock: ookay
TheWarlock: but im sure if u like competing
TheWarlock: then u understand
TheWarlock: why im upset?
TheWarlock: if u played in play offs
TheWarlock: and balls didnt talk
TheWarlock: he first picks
TheWarlock: like
TheWarlock: nautilus top
TheWarlock: and then buys IE first
TheWarlock: and spams laugh
TheWarlock: doesnt say anything
TheWarlock: and u lose to complexity
TheWarlock: 0-3
TheWarlock: because of it
TheWarlock: how would u feel?
TheWarlock: why doesnt that level of attachment to a singular game
C10 Meteos: i'd feel confused at how we are playing complexity in playoffs
TheWarlock: translate to solo queue
TheWarlock: just a random example man
TheWarlock: who cares about col
TheWarlock: but what im saying
C10 Meteos: it's not even close to a related example
TheWarlock: is that everone should be attached
TheWarlock: to solo q games
TheWarlock: the way they are attached
TheWarlock: to real games
TheWarlock: that decide their lives
TheWarlock: or at least
TheWarlock: some sense
TheWarlock: of that
C10 Meteos: thats just wrong
TheWarlock: sure u can play a champ u might not be as comfortable playing in play offs cuz u only have 10 games on them
TheWarlock: but u shouldnt first pick ryze jungle
TheWarlock: and then say YOLO
TheWarlock: and just whatever
TheWarlock: why is it wrong?
C10 Meteos: you're relating solo queue to playoffs?
TheWarlock: no
C10 Meteos: playoffs is something we've worked months for
C10 Meteos: we play together
TheWarlock: i am relating being attached to the result
TheWarlock: yes
TheWarlock: so do every challenger
TheWarlock: they have played for years
TheWarlock: why is no one attached
TheWarlock: to the result of the game?
TheWarlock: whyy doesnt the games matter?
C10 Meteos: we get paid to play as a team and we all h ave the same goals which is why we get a long
TheWarlock: its just win 1 lose 1
TheWarlock: no one cares
TheWarlock: lelelelele
TheWarlock: attitude
TheWarlock: yes
TheWarlock: shouldnt everyone in solo
TheWarlock: q
TheWarlock: have the same goal
TheWarlock: of being good at this game
TheWarlock: ?
TheWarlock: if u dont care about being good
TheWarlock: why are u even playing in this elo
TheWarlock: go back to gold and just be a casual
TheWarlock: thats how kr solo q is
C10 Meteos: not everyone in gold is a casual
TheWarlock: everyone in top 500
C10 Meteos: they're just less experienced
TheWarlock: no
TheWarlock: some of them are more experienced
TheWarlock: theres other reasons theyre gold but
TheWarlock: what im saying is if u dont care about performing well
TheWarlock: and thats not ur goal
TheWarlock: and u dont wanna be the best
TheWarlock: why are u even in here
TheWarlock: this elo should only be for pros
TheWarlock: and wannabe pros
TheWarlock: and amateurs
TheWarlock: this is what it littearly translates to
TheWarlock: its even called CHALLENGER
TheWarlock: for a fucking reason
TheWarlock: but everyone treats it
TheWarlock: like its called
TheWarlock: mental challenge ur own team
C10 Meteos: you're too hot headed to ever make it anywhere as a pro
TheWarlock: yes
TheWarlock: which is why i am a coach
TheWarlock: and not a pro
C10 Meteos: who do you coach
TheWarlock: an amateur team
TheWarlock: that u havent heard of yet cuz its 1 week old
TheWarlock: but u will soon
TheWarlock: cuz we're stomping CA and XDG in scrims 4 days in
C10 Meteos: scrim results dont mean anything
TheWarlock: well it means we're not random trolls
TheWarlock: or maybe not
TheWarlock: but u will soon
TheWarlock: i promise u
TheWarlock: we have 2 korean challengers
TheWarlock: that are top 50
TheWarlock: in korea ladder
TheWarlock: right now
TheWarlock: mechanically speaking theyre better than anyone whos ever competed in na
TheWarlock: i am not a pro because im not good enough
TheWarlock: to be the best
TheWarlock: and i wont enjoy playing at mid tier lcs level
TheWarlock: but as a coach im very smart about this game and how to win
TheWarlock: strategically and otherwise
TheWarlock: so i can reach mid international level
TheWarlock: from na
TheWarlock: similar to what alliance is today
TheWarlock: star players who have experience and the same goal
TheWarlock: liek you
TheWarlock: my dream is to reach that level
TheWarlock: and i work for it every day
TheWarlock: and i sacrifice things to reach it
C10 Meteos: try sacrificing your ego
TheWarlock: tell me how
C10 Meteos: if you dont think you have an ego but you have the wrong definition
TheWarlock: and i will do it
TheWarlock: ok
TheWarlock: help me see it
TheWarlock: please
TheWarlock: i am genuine
TheWarlock: in my pleade
TheWarlock: plead*
TheWarlock: i respect ur opinion as a succesful pro gamer
TheWarlock: and ur take is better than mine
TheWarlock: bceause u know what its like to be the best
TheWarlock: at least on this level
TheWarlock: so i listen to u
TheWarlock: whole heartedly
C10 Meteos: just stop caring about what other people are doing is probably a good first step
C10 Meteos: look at it this way
C10 Meteos: if fabby is trolling
C10 Meteos: getting mad at him will literally do nothing
C10 Meteos: but if i can ignore bottom lane and snowball somewhere else then the game can still be won
C10 Meteos: if someone messes up why do you call them out for it
C10 Meteos: its not going to help them and they probably already feel bad if they truly messed up anyway
TheWarlock: i dont think imaqtpie feels bad when he first picks jungle ryzr and goes 0/8/1
TheWarlock: but i can see what ure saying
TheWarlock: ok man
TheWarlock: i will abandon
TheWarlock: my attachment to my team mates performance in solo q
TheWarlock: is that what u are saying?
C10 Meteos: yeah
TheWarlock: or am i missing something
TheWarlock: ok
C10 Meteos: youll just stress yourself out
TheWarlock: thats all?
C10 Meteos: lol
TheWarlock: i already do
TheWarlock: indeed
TheWarlock: i lost maybe
TheWarlock: 5 years off my lifespan
TheWarlock: beacuse of this na oslo q
TheWarlock: i wish my ping to kr wasnt 200
TheWarlock: or i would only play here
TheWarlock: there
C10 Meteos: yeah solo queue can be stressful
C10 Meteos: and frustrating
C10 Meteos: happens to everyone
TheWarlock: ok
C10 Meteos: but when you take it out on your teammates
C10 Meteos: doesnt help anyone
TheWarlock: here is something i will point out to u
C10 Meteos: u feel me
TheWarlock: that u might not have noticed
TheWarlock: yes i do
TheWarlock: i can see what u are saying
TheWarlock: and why that would be better for me
TheWarlock: and the game in general
TheWarlock: if i were to do that
TheWarlock: but notice this
TheWarlock: every pro that has ever taken solo q REALLY seriously
TheWarlock: has become so much better
TheWarlock: think doublelift in s2, he had like 4 accounts in top 10, became internationally yrecognized
TheWarlock: you guys were all top 50
TheWarlock: when u were playing qualifiers
TheWarlock: and u stomped
TheWarlock: shihptur got rank 1
TheWarlock: and suddenly became so good
TheWarlock: wildturtle had the same run
TheWarlock: but then everyone forgets that
TheWarlock: and just ignores soloq
TheWarlock: right after
C10 Meteos: you're almost right with that statement
C10 Meteos: you're missing part though
TheWarlock: which is?
C10 Meteos: when those players get high rated, it's not becuase they cared about winning
C10 Meteos: none of those players rage at their temamates
C10 Meteos: or get upset when they lose
TheWarlock: they did care about winning and playing good
TheWarlock: and sure they didnt do those things
C10 Meteos: they got rank 1 because they were focused on improvement
TheWarlock: im not saying theyre doing what im doing
C10 Meteos: and they put a lot of time into practicing
TheWarlock: im saying theyre doing their best to win
TheWarlock: yes exactly
TheWarlock: so why do most na pros
TheWarlock: ignore their example
TheWarlock: and not do the same
C10 Meteos: thats not a fair statement, the majority of pros try in every game
TheWarlock: not the same as those examples
C10 Meteos: you're using one example of imaqtpie?
TheWarlock: no
TheWarlock: some others too
C10 Meteos: look at bjergsen or doublelift right now
TheWarlock: voyboy
TheWarlock: etc
C10 Meteos: they try very hard to win in solo queue
C10 Meteos: and they get pissed
TheWarlock: yes
C10 Meteos: when their teammates are bad
C10 Meteos: adnt hey tilt
C10 Meteos: and they've gotten worse
C10 Meteos: because of it
TheWarlock: i dont think they got worse because of it
C10 Meteos: they definitely have
TheWarlock: but maybe it contributed
C10 Meteos: it's happened to me as well
C10 Meteos: whenever i care too much i get bad
TheWarlock: so u are saying
C10 Meteos: cause i start playing full dps vi just to try to win
TheWarlock: be focused on improving
C10 Meteos: and i dont buy wards
TheWarlock: and try ur best
TheWarlock: but dont care about the team?
C10 Meteos: yes
TheWarlock: that seems so hard to me
TheWarlock: to adapt that mindset
TheWarlock: to mine
TheWarlock: but i will try
C10 Meteos: just keep thinking "what can i do to win the game from here"
C10 Meteos: and blaming your teammates is never the answer
C10 Meteos: or hindsighting
TheWarlock: ok
TheWarlock: thank u for ur time and wisdom and sharing this with me, it will actually have a difference
TheWarlock: on me
C10 Meteos: thats cool to hear
C10 Meteos: its hard
TSQ Dusty: i learned a lot as well
TheWarlock: i hope i also brought up a few ppoints
TheWarlock: that change how u think or make u see new things
TheWarlock: too
C10 Meteos: i understand your perspective
C10 Meteos: i just think your approach could be improved
After a short pause by TheWarlock, Meteos realizes that he has finally succeeded in changing TheWarlocks attitude and hopes that by doing so he can little by little bring toxicity to an end in the league of legends community. Meteos smirks as he exists the chat room to queue up for another solo q game knowing that his efforts were worthwhile.