C9 Meteos shares his wisdom with a fellow solo q player


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DATE: Aug. 31, 2014, 10:04 a.m.

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  1. Backstory: After a unfortunate game, TheWarlock lashes out at fabbbyyy for his performance claiming that fabbbyyy wasn't taking the game seriously and "trolling" resulting his team losing. Meteos states that fabbbyyy is simply having a bad game and that at the very least he wasn't blaming anyone as opposed to TheWarlock whom Meteos states as "annoying" for calling out fabbbyyy on his misplays. TheWarlock defends himself by thoroughly analyzing fabbbyyy's misplays, one of which is "flashing into tower dry, and dying". Meteos then tries to explain to TheWarlock that bashing out on his teammates during a game will only lead to putting his teammates on tilt and therefore it is pointless to do so.TheWarlock rebuttals by saying that calling each other out on their mistakes is worthwhile as it allows people to improve off of criticism, however he does understand Meteos's point of view. TheWarlock then begins to lash out on the competitive NA scene as a whole and states that the root of its problems is NA high elo players or mainly "Challenger" level players not taking Solo Q seriously enough, as he soon begins to make a comparison between NA solo Q and KR solo Q. Soon after, TheWarlock begins to discuss with Meteos why he feels that NA Challenger level players should take solo Q more seriously...
  2. TheWarlock: with what i do
  3. TheWarlock: thats good enough for me
  4. C10 Meteos: clearly you dont live a fulfilling life if you're sitting here raging at someone playing badly
  5. TheWarlock: i only do that in solo q
  6. TheWarlock: maybe i should stop playing league
  7. TheWarlock: then
  8. C10 Meteos: yeah you probably should
  9. TheWarlock: but i really like competing
  10. TheWarlock: and league is the most developped skill i have
  11. TheWarlock: so i will not quit it anytime soon
  12. C10 Meteos: competing is fine
  13. C10 Meteos: i like competing too
  14. C10 Meteos: but you can do it without being an asshole
  15. TheWarlock: ookay
  16. TheWarlock: but im sure if u like competing
  17. TheWarlock: then u understand
  18. TheWarlock: why im upset?
  19. TheWarlock: if u played in play offs
  20. TheWarlock: and balls didnt talk
  21. TheWarlock: he first picks
  22. TheWarlock: like
  23. TheWarlock: nautilus top
  24. TheWarlock: and then buys IE first
  25. TheWarlock: and spams laugh
  26. TheWarlock: doesnt say anything
  27. TheWarlock: and u lose to complexity
  28. TheWarlock: 0-3
  29. TheWarlock: because of it
  30. TheWarlock: how would u feel?
  31. TheWarlock: why doesnt that level of attachment to a singular game
  32. C10 Meteos: i'd feel confused at how we are playing complexity in playoffs
  33. TheWarlock: translate to solo queue
  34. TheWarlock: just a random example man
  35. TheWarlock: who cares about col
  36. TheWarlock: but what im saying
  37. C10 Meteos: it's not even close to a related example
  38. TheWarlock: is that everone should be attached
  39. TheWarlock: to solo q games
  40. TheWarlock: the way they are attached
  41. TheWarlock: to real games
  42. TheWarlock: that decide their lives
  43. TheWarlock: or at least
  44. TheWarlock: some sense
  45. TheWarlock: of that
  46. C10 Meteos: thats just wrong
  47. TheWarlock: sure u can play a champ u might not be as comfortable playing in play offs cuz u only have 10 games on them
  48. TheWarlock: but u shouldnt first pick ryze jungle
  49. TheWarlock: and then say YOLO
  50. TheWarlock: and just whatever
  51. TheWarlock: why is it wrong?
  52. C10 Meteos: you're relating solo queue to playoffs?
  53. TheWarlock: no
  54. C10 Meteos: playoffs is something we've worked months for
  55. C10 Meteos: we play together
  56. TheWarlock: i am relating being attached to the result
  57. TheWarlock: yes
  58. TheWarlock: so do every challenger
  59. TheWarlock: they have played for years
  60. TheWarlock: why is no one attached
  61. TheWarlock: to the result of the game?
  62. TheWarlock: whyy doesnt the games matter?
  63. C10 Meteos: we get paid to play as a team and we all h ave the same goals which is why we get a long
  64. TheWarlock: its just win 1 lose 1
  65. TheWarlock: no one cares
  66. TheWarlock: lelelelele
  67. TheWarlock: attitude
  68. TheWarlock: yes
  69. TheWarlock: shouldnt everyone in solo
  70. TheWarlock: q
  71. TheWarlock: have the same goal
  72. TheWarlock: of being good at this game
  73. TheWarlock: ?
  74. TheWarlock: if u dont care about being good
  75. TheWarlock: why are u even playing in this elo
  76. TheWarlock: go back to gold and just be a casual
  77. TheWarlock: thats how kr solo q is
  78. C10 Meteos: not everyone in gold is a casual
  79. TheWarlock: everyone in top 500
  80. C10 Meteos: they're just less experienced
  81. TheWarlock: no
  82. TheWarlock: some of them are more experienced
  83. TheWarlock: theres other reasons theyre gold but
  84. TheWarlock: what im saying is if u dont care about performing well
  85. TheWarlock: and thats not ur goal
  86. TheWarlock: and u dont wanna be the best
  87. TheWarlock: why are u even in here
  88. TheWarlock: this elo should only be for pros
  89. TheWarlock: and wannabe pros
  90. TheWarlock: and amateurs
  91. TheWarlock: this is what it littearly translates to
  92. TheWarlock: its even called CHALLENGER
  93. TheWarlock: for a fucking reason
  94. TheWarlock: but everyone treats it
  95. TheWarlock: like its called
  96. TheWarlock: mental challenge ur own team
  97. C10 Meteos: you're too hot headed to ever make it anywhere as a pro
  98. TheWarlock: yes
  99. TheWarlock: which is why i am a coach
  100. TheWarlock: and not a pro
  101. C10 Meteos: who do you coach
  102. TheWarlock: an amateur team
  103. TheWarlock: that u havent heard of yet cuz its 1 week old
  104. TheWarlock: but u will soon
  105. TheWarlock: cuz we're stomping CA and XDG in scrims 4 days in
  106. C10 Meteos: scrim results dont mean anything
  107. TheWarlock: well it means we're not random trolls
  108. TheWarlock: or maybe not
  109. TheWarlock: but u will soon
  110. TheWarlock: i promise u
  111. TheWarlock: we have 2 korean challengers
  112. TheWarlock: that are top 50
  113. TheWarlock: in korea ladder
  114. TheWarlock: right now
  115. TheWarlock: mechanically speaking theyre better than anyone whos ever competed in na
  116. TheWarlock: i am not a pro because im not good enough
  117. TheWarlock: to be the best
  118. TheWarlock: and i wont enjoy playing at mid tier lcs level
  119. TheWarlock: but as a coach im very smart about this game and how to win
  120. TheWarlock: strategically and otherwise
  121. TheWarlock: so i can reach mid international level
  122. TheWarlock: from na
  123. TheWarlock: similar to what alliance is today
  124. TheWarlock: star players who have experience and the same goal
  125. TheWarlock: liek you
  126. TheWarlock: my dream is to reach that level
  127. TheWarlock: and i work for it every day
  128. TheWarlock: and i sacrifice things to reach it
  129. C10 Meteos: try sacrificing your ego
  130. TheWarlock: tell me how
  131. C10 Meteos: if you dont think you have an ego but you have the wrong definition
  132. TheWarlock: and i will do it
  133. TheWarlock: ok
  134. TheWarlock: help me see it
  135. TheWarlock: please
  136. TheWarlock: i am genuine
  137. TheWarlock: in my pleade
  138. TheWarlock: plead*
  139. TheWarlock: i respect ur opinion as a succesful pro gamer
  140. TheWarlock: and ur take is better than mine
  141. TheWarlock: bceause u know what its like to be the best
  142. TheWarlock: at least on this level
  143. TheWarlock: so i listen to u
  144. TheWarlock: whole heartedly
  145. C10 Meteos: just stop caring about what other people are doing is probably a good first step
  146. C10 Meteos: look at it this way
  147. C10 Meteos: if fabby is trolling
  148. C10 Meteos: getting mad at him will literally do nothing
  149. C10 Meteos: but if i can ignore bottom lane and snowball somewhere else then the game can still be won
  150. C10 Meteos: if someone messes up why do you call them out for it
  151. C10 Meteos: its not going to help them and they probably already feel bad if they truly messed up anyway
  152. TheWarlock: i dont think imaqtpie feels bad when he first picks jungle ryzr and goes 0/8/1
  153. TheWarlock: but i can see what ure saying
  154. TheWarlock: ok man
  155. TheWarlock: i will abandon
  156. TheWarlock: my attachment to my team mates performance in solo q
  157. TheWarlock: is that what u are saying?
  158. C10 Meteos: yeah
  159. TheWarlock: or am i missing something
  160. TheWarlock: ok
  161. C10 Meteos: youll just stress yourself out
  162. TheWarlock: thats all?
  163. C10 Meteos: lol
  164. TheWarlock: i already do
  165. TheWarlock: indeed
  166. TheWarlock: i lost maybe
  167. TheWarlock: 5 years off my lifespan
  168. TheWarlock: beacuse of this na oslo q
  169. TheWarlock: i wish my ping to kr wasnt 200
  170. TheWarlock: or i would only play here
  171. TheWarlock: there
  172. C10 Meteos: yeah solo queue can be stressful
  173. C10 Meteos: and frustrating
  174. C10 Meteos: happens to everyone
  175. TheWarlock: ok
  176. C10 Meteos: but when you take it out on your teammates
  177. C10 Meteos: doesnt help anyone
  178. TheWarlock: here is something i will point out to u
  179. C10 Meteos: u feel me
  180. TheWarlock: that u might not have noticed
  181. TheWarlock: yes i do
  182. TheWarlock: i can see what u are saying
  183. TheWarlock: and why that would be better for me
  184. TheWarlock: and the game in general
  185. TheWarlock: if i were to do that
  186. TheWarlock: but notice this
  187. TheWarlock: every pro that has ever taken solo q REALLY seriously
  188. TheWarlock: has become so much better
  189. TheWarlock: think doublelift in s2, he had like 4 accounts in top 10, became internationally yrecognized
  190. TheWarlock: you guys were all top 50
  191. TheWarlock: when u were playing qualifiers
  192. TheWarlock: and u stomped
  193. TheWarlock: shihptur got rank 1
  194. TheWarlock: and suddenly became so good
  195. TheWarlock: wildturtle had the same run
  196. TheWarlock: but then everyone forgets that
  197. TheWarlock: and just ignores soloq
  198. TheWarlock: right after
  199. C10 Meteos: you're almost right with that statement
  200. C10 Meteos: you're missing part though
  201. TheWarlock: which is?
  202. C10 Meteos: when those players get high rated, it's not becuase they cared about winning
  203. C10 Meteos: none of those players rage at their temamates
  204. C10 Meteos: or get upset when they lose
  205. TheWarlock: they did care about winning and playing good
  206. TheWarlock: and sure they didnt do those things
  207. C10 Meteos: they got rank 1 because they were focused on improvement
  208. TheWarlock: im not saying theyre doing what im doing
  209. C10 Meteos: and they put a lot of time into practicing
  210. TheWarlock: im saying theyre doing their best to win
  211. TheWarlock: yes exactly
  212. TheWarlock: so why do most na pros
  213. TheWarlock: ignore their example
  214. TheWarlock: and not do the same
  215. C10 Meteos: thats not a fair statement, the majority of pros try in every game
  216. TheWarlock: not the same as those examples
  217. C10 Meteos: you're using one example of imaqtpie?
  218. TheWarlock: no
  219. TheWarlock: some others too
  220. C10 Meteos: look at bjergsen or doublelift right now
  221. TheWarlock: voyboy
  222. TheWarlock: etc
  223. C10 Meteos: they try very hard to win in solo queue
  224. C10 Meteos: and they get pissed
  225. TheWarlock: yes
  226. C10 Meteos: when their teammates are bad
  227. C10 Meteos: adnt hey tilt
  228. C10 Meteos: and they've gotten worse
  229. C10 Meteos: because of it
  230. TheWarlock: i dont think they got worse because of it
  231. C10 Meteos: they definitely have
  232. TheWarlock: but maybe it contributed
  233. C10 Meteos: it's happened to me as well
  234. C10 Meteos: whenever i care too much i get bad
  235. TheWarlock: so u are saying
  236. C10 Meteos: cause i start playing full dps vi just to try to win
  237. TheWarlock: be focused on improving
  238. C10 Meteos: and i dont buy wards
  239. TheWarlock: and try ur best
  240. TheWarlock: but dont care about the team?
  241. C10 Meteos: yes
  242. TheWarlock: that seems so hard to me
  243. TheWarlock: to adapt that mindset
  244. TheWarlock: to mine
  245. TheWarlock: but i will try
  246. C10 Meteos: just keep thinking "what can i do to win the game from here"
  247. C10 Meteos: and blaming your teammates is never the answer
  248. C10 Meteos: or hindsighting
  249. TheWarlock: ok
  250. TheWarlock: thank u for ur time and wisdom and sharing this with me, it will actually have a difference
  251. TheWarlock: on me
  252. C10 Meteos: thats cool to hear
  253. C10 Meteos: its hard
  254. TSQ Dusty: i learned a lot as well
  255. TheWarlock: i hope i also brought up a few ppoints
  256. TheWarlock: that change how u think or make u see new things
  257. TheWarlock: too
  258. C10 Meteos: i understand your perspective
  259. C10 Meteos: i just think your approach could be improved
  260. After a short pause by TheWarlock, Meteos realizes that he has finally succeeded in changing TheWarlocks attitude and hopes that by doing so he can little by little bring toxicity to an end in the league of legends community. Meteos smirks as he exists the chat room to queue up for another solo q game knowing that his efforts were worthwhile.

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