I bought Horizon 3 for PC, but the steering wheel support sucked so bad I barely played it. That leaves me really hesitant to buy Horizon 4, without some way of testing it first. Along those same lines, I was really excited for The Crew 2, but ended up not buying it. I played the beta, and it didn't like my steering wheel at all, in spite of The Crew 1 supporting it fairly well. Moderator Posts: 3012 Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:40 am Steam ID: NoOne-NBA- Region: US-West AlexCuse44 wrote:I was going to just use my ps4 contoller anyways. I looked at The Crew 2 a bit but it didn't interest me much. They are pretty much the same game, each with its own strengths and weaknesses. The Crew has a much better map, more to do especially now that they added boats and planes , and better side missions. Horizon has a much better car list, and did have better physics until they hosed the steering wheel support, which made the physics considerably less important. Moderator Posts: 3012 Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:40 am Steam ID: NoOne-NBA- Region: US-West I'm gonna buy FH4 for sure. It's a bit of a pity these games don't have wheel support to the likes of most sim racers, but they're also not sim racers. So the wheel audience is probably a bit less important to the devs. I played The Crew 1 with a wheel and had lots of fun, but the physics were a bit dodgy and arcadey at times. And you don't use a wheel for more than a few hours, at best. The Crew 2 was an insult to me. Surely the world was massively overhauled and more aesthetically pleasing, but so many spots and general world areas didn't feel new to me at all. You can still see so much old infrastructure from The Crew 1 it just feels like they're milking out the first game already. Who asked for boats? I can understand planes, because that allows Ubisoft to also use the vertical element of their map. Yet the map completely lacks this very element... I kinda a bit off topic. Back to Forza Horizon. I've played FH3 mainly with controller and I really like the physics, aesthetics and open world detail the game provided. It's just a great game in general, it's a bit too bad the game was badly ported to PC at launch, but they made massive improvements to the game in terms of performance. I find the physics of FH3 to be the perfect mesh of arcadey and sim at the same time. I'm sure FH4 will be good in terms of physics as well. Have you seen the weekly Twitch shows for each season? This game is just Kreygasm to the max. NoOne-NBA wrote:The Crew has a much better map, more to do especially now that they added boats and planes , and better side missions. I gotta give them the map is massive and very interesting in that regard. But if you look at the FH4 map, it's so much more detailed, worked out and plainly not too vast. Scyonite wrote:It's just a great game in general, it's a bit too bad the game was badly ported to PC at launch, but they made massive improvements to the game in terms of performance... Do you know if they ever reworked the steering wheel support? That was my only real complaint about it, but bad steering wheel support is an absolute game-breaker, for me. Why would I want to play a game with crappy steering wheel support, when all it does is make me wish I was playing anything else in my collection? The only bigger disappointment I've ever had, in the racing genre, was Test Drive Unlimited 2. Major portions of the world were closed off, the game was nearly impossible to stay online for any length of time, and you couldn't join lobbies without an express invitation to them, which limited the amount of racing you could do immensely. They had a casino mode though. THAT is always an important feature I look for in a racing game. Oh, and you could get plastic surgery, buy new clothes, get haircuts, buy houses, and hang out with your friends in them. Moderator Posts: 3012 Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:40 am Steam ID: NoOne-NBA- Region: US-West Uuh, they did work on it but I don't remember what they improved in particular. They did add support for wheels at a later point but I don't remember which ones. It's probably not up to the standards of Assetto Corsa, for instance. Hmmm, I never knew of TDU2 since years after its release. I didn't have any hype towards it when I first tried it, I thought it was a pretty good game for what it had. That world was massive and one if its kind at that time. AlexCuse44 wrote:I hope they release an open beta since as far as I know you can't return games off the windows store like steam. Also while we mention steering wheels, could you imagine playing rl with a wheel lol I've been modding my own controls for almost 40 years now. It would suck horribly though. The big shortcoming would be the lack of a Y-axis on most wheels. That was a problem in Midnight Club LA, although by no means a game-breaking one. It would be absolutely game-breaking in this game though. If you got the car airborne in MCLA, you could control the X-axis, but not the Y-axis. That limited wheel users to helicopter spins, as the only available mid-air trick. It also prevented wheel users from doing wheelies on the motorcycles. Moderator Posts: 3012 Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:40 am Steam ID: NoOne-NBA- Region: US-West AlexCuse44 wrote:Well I downloaded the Forza Horizon 4 Demo but it won't launch properly. I hope their support team gets back to me soon! Tell me how you guys like it if you download the demo They definitely have work to do optimizing the PC port, but I've played it and I love it. I've had a number of crashes ingame too, but I've found settings that work for me now, I believe. I can post my benchmark on what works later today, but I doubt it'll help if you can't even launch the game, unfortunately. It's gonna be an aesthetical masterpiece with great physics and tons of stuff to do Kreygasm. I love the premise of the game, and would buy it in a heartbeat, if it wasn't so wonky in the control department. The cars don't do what they should, especially with respect to weight transfer. An Audi R8 should not come completely unglued from the road at 70 mph, just because you lightly tapped the brakes. If you start into a skid, and countersteer, the car should recover with light brakes, not ignore them and continue to slide. Cars shouldn't ignore curb hits, while loosing their shit on the tarmac for no reason at all. No car should have better traction on loose gravel than it does on tarmac. Even the WRC series has better controls, not to mention DiRT, Project CARS, Assetto Corsa, etc... The wheel support is only half of it though. The wheel does work, it just has very weak force feedback. It's the physics in the game that are blowing it for me. Cars shouldn't wander around on the road, when you're holding the wheel straight, but they do in this game. It's all such a shame because I really like the actual game here, just not the execution of it. Moderator Posts: 3012 Joined: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:40 am Steam ID: NoOne-NBA- Region: US-West Good news! I was finally able to open up the demo. It turns out I had to completely uninstall Comodo as turning it off was not enough I guess. Played a bit of it and it seems fun. One of my controllers isn't connecting to the game though which is a bit disappointing since it is the controller I would prefer to use. The wheel support is only half of it though. The wheel does work, it just has very weak force feedback. It's the physics in the game that are blowing it for me. Cars shouldn't wander around on the road, when you're holding the wheel straight, but they do in this game. It's all such a shame because I really like the actual game here, just not the execution of it. Yeah, I feel you. Wheel support is bad. I tried it too, but I've always been used to playing FH games with a controller as well. And physics in that regard feel very solid imo. It's fun, semi-realistic, challenging and competitive. It's just too bad it can't be like that in FH4 currently.
