Hello guys, I will get my X-Plane 10 tomorrow and in preparation of the PMDG 777 Release for FSX I would like to ask, if I should buy the 777 Worldliner Addon from Ramzzess X-Plane. I fear, the 777 from Ramzzess doesn't satisfy me, because I only flew PMDGs 737 NGX for the last 2 years. I fear, I buy the 777 from Ramzzess and one day later, PMDG release the 777 for X-Plane. And I fear mostly, that I buy 777 from Ramzzess, then beeing disappointed so much, that I buy PMDGs 777 for FSX and then PMDG release the 777 for X-Plane, so I am angry, because I didn't wait. But I don't want to wait another year or more without any X-Plane product from PMDG... The XP10 777 is 32 and 64bit and the whole plane is modeled: VC, Passenger Area, Toilets :lol: etc. I like it a lot and it was worth it. The latest version of the plane is 1. Aerosoft Review: Froogle Review: Froogie loved it! Bennett I bought it a time ago but I must admit I'm really dissapointed even after last update. It is very expensive addon for what it offers. The holes in the exterior and interior, poor system functionality, horrible texture mapping in the cockpit, weird wingflex, annoying souds. I'm sorry but I have to say the Ramzzess 777 in current state is not worth the money. It is an excellent product and if you are interested in the development of x plane as a platform it is an even more interesting product. Yes, the main issues are with the textures, but if you want a very good simulation of an airliner on this format the very best available on x plane then this is a good buy. All systems function beautifully, it is a joy to hand fly and the performance is very stable. It won't be as polished and as finished as what the PMDG 777 release will surely be. Best wishes, Martin I bought it and I am really impressed. I never thought that the systems would be modeled so deep. Never saw that on any other product. You can switch through all EICAS pages and show the checklists. I noticed two things on my first flight Without tutorial or reading manuals, just sat in cockpit to try around. First, I had too much thrust. Okay, this could be due to my very tiny load of only 20 PAX and 6,000kgs of fuel. I got a climbrate of more than 6,000 fpm. Second, on some waypoints the autopilot in LNAV begins to circle. I had to manual set the next waypoint and intercept with headings... But that will be patched in future, I think Edit: I think the textures aren't worse that in PMDGs MD-11. The fact is while it's the best 777 available for X-Plane, not all of it is prototypical. The EFB visually does not resemble the real one on a 777. The Acpt, Canl, Rjct buttons on the front panel are not used properly. In the XP 777 they are being used to cancel EICAS messaging, while in reality they are part of the communication system, to respond to data link messaging. I don't disagree with the limitations of the product pointed out. I fly the NGX the most because I trust it to be an incredibly realistic simulation. Flightfactor are pushing the development of x plane addons to the next level and are bringing the same level of quality offered in the FSX market to x plane. They are the first to do it and I commend them for doing so well in such a short space of time. Anyway, my respect for both platforms will mean I will enjoy the very best products across the two platforms. Martin Another thought: How do you know if the aircraft will perform this climb rate at this GW in real-life? If you looked at the long running CS777 thread over in the FSX forum, you'd see many complaining about the unrealistic, Millennium Falcon 5000 ft climb rates At low weights , until they saw the PMDG 777 do the same thing. Funny thing, you never saw the same complaints about theirs. From what I've seen it appears all three models are getting similar climb rates. What's interesting if you look at the flight profiles over on Flightaware, even on short hauls the real ones don't seem to match any of the sim models. They average less then 2500ft per minutes. Some less than 2000fpm. Here's a sample of a 1452sm on a 777-200L!! Without knowing too much about the subject, i can think of few reasons why 6000fpm climb wouldnt be ideal for passenger or cargo flights. I haven't bought the ramzess and im not sure i would buy the pmdg either. Mostly cuz i dont fly too many long-hauls, but that might be possible with pmdg. But then again i like to aim for max realism and speeding time up isnt that. So ill stick with short-haul jets Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 You'd have to search quite some time to find an operator in real life that goes for a max unrestricted climb. Just because the aircraft can do it, doesn't mean it's necessarily a good idea. Just like it would be rather foolish to redline your car engine on each and every single gearshift. That's how VNAV works though. It doesn't moderate throttle for speed, it uses pitch. The throttle spools up to the derated N1, and the AP moderates climb rate to maintain speed. I think we are all missing something here on how real operations of a 777 actually is. Do people realize that the high rate of climb is because the wing generates so much lift and has more thrust than it knows what to do with? At light weights it will climb like crazy, and it is NOT unrealistic. The wing has to produce that much lift to carry the aircraft at MTOM, and MTOM minus climb fuel at cruise altitude. Power to weight ratio rules. If you take an empty jet plus 20000 lbs of fuel, the weight is approx. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the 777 was capable of 30000 ft in under 10 minutes from brakes release when light. I also seem to remember Warren I think that is his name! Then you also have to take into consideration that not ALL operators even allow for derates! So now imagine that 777-200LR with an operator not allowing the derates and doing maybe a 3000nm trip... Yeah, sounds hectic LOL! Kind regards Flight Simulation's Premier Resource! AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support! This donation keeps our doors open and providing you service 24 x 7 x 365. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. We reset this goal every new year for the following year's goal.
