/u/IndustryInsiders is selling counterfeit ASP237 as Oxycodone and not revealing it in his DNM Description


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DATE: Dec. 8, 2021, 1:40 p.m.

UPDATED: Dec. 8, 2021, 3:46 p.m.

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  1. /u/IndustryInsiders is a fraudulent vendor on Dark0de and Torrez, who lists Oxycodone, but admitted in another thread that he was selling ASP-273. You can read his admission here:
  2. /post/542ff784ca3135fb543c/#c-765311f339ab7bb844
  3. Because he is not a native English speaker, he misspells a lot of things and uses grammar that it slightly hard to read and understand.
  4. https://ibb.co/hgsDBt2
  5. Here is his description for Oxycodone product.
  6. "5000 oxycodone k56 as low as $3.25
  7. No reviews, be the first!
  8. Vendor: industryinsiders - 5.0
  9. Price: 16250.0 | CAD 20267.0 | EUR 14040.0 | GBP 11935.62 | RUB 1165987.88 | AUD 22251.12 | NZD 23452.0
  10. This listing is for 5000 OXYCODONE K56
  11. Accurate shape.
  12. Snap as intended.
  13. Dissolve as intended.
  14. The quality and press is near perfect.
  15. These are made to replicate pharmaceutical versions so you can resell or have for personal reasons.
  16. Pill with imprint K 56 is Pink, Round and has been identified as Oxycodone Hydrochloride 10 mg. It is supplied by KVK Tech Inc..
  17. Oxycodone is used in the treatment of chronic pain; pain and belongs to the drug class narcotic analgesics. FDA has not classified the drug for risk during pregnancy. Oxycodone 10 mg is classified as a Schedule 2 controlled substance under the Controlled Substance Act (CSA)."
  18. NOWHERE does he mention that the product is not Oxycodone, but clearly admits it in that thread. AP 237, aka Bucinnazine (you can find out more information on this compound on Wikipedia is a drug used in China, which is an opioid, and has very little data about it's safety what dosage should be used is mostly unknown, however a study translated from China said the starting dose should be 30mg.
  19. Methods: A total of 66 patients with moderate and severe pain in advanced cancer were randomly divided into an observation group (34 cases, 4 cases dropped off) and a control group (32 cases, 2 cases dropped off). The two groups were treated with oral analgesics continuously for 4 weeks. The moderate pain patients was given bucinnazine hydrochloride tablets (starting at 30 mg, once every 6 hours, increasing by 30%-50% until the titration volume was reached), and the severe pain patients were given oxycodone hydrochloride sustained-release tablets (starting at 20 mg every 12 hours and increasing by 25%-50% until the titration volume was reached). The observation group was cooperated with filiform fire needling at ashi point, Zusanli (ST 36), Liangqiu (ST 34), Qihai (CV 6), Guanyuan(CV 4), Quchi (LI 11) and Waiguan (TE 5) once every other day for 4 weeks. The changes of numerical rating scales (NRS) scores were observed in both groups before and after treatment, and the amount of analgesics and the incidence of adverse reactions were recorded. The clinical effects in the two groups were evaluated.
  20. Clinical observation of filiform fire needling on moderate and severe pain in advanced cancer
  21. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32538009/
  22. You can also read about it under https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Talk:AP-237.
  23. However, not only will /u/IndustryInsiders lie about the contents of his Oxy pills, but he will not reveal the dosage or whether he is using the plain AP-237 or the 2-methyl AP-237 version, which is much more addictive and potent than the less addictive version. You can find out more about 2-methyl AP-237 from the DEA, who is already aware of this product. 2-methyl AP-237" and look at the PDF from the DEA - which indicates they are also already aware of this compound and could ban it on any day.
  24. https://anonym.to/?https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/dea_tox/announcements/2-Methyl_AP-237.pdf
  25. Thus, his pills are counterfeit and thus I call on /u/Dark0deReborn and /u/mrblonde of Torrez Market to ban this fraudulent vendor.
  26. Further, you can look at his other products on sell, one of which where he posts "200 adderall 30mg no meth low as $2.50", towards the bottom of the page, he revealed that the product is actually 4F-MPH, and that the dosage is "13-15mg~" of the compound. This tells me he is not adequately measuring his product using an accurate milligram scale and just eyeballing the dosage on each pill. That's an indication or not only a lazy vendor, but is indicative of extremely poor and very low quality control products. This is most likely why his products are so cheap, as who knows what kind of environment he uses to press his pills, if it's a sterile or environment or if he's making it his kitchen. He can just guess at the dosage, throw in his fillers and binders and press them into tablets, with no concern for the safety of his customers.
  27. Info about 4F-MPH: https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/4F-MPH
  28. If he's not measuring his Adderall by just eyeballing it, who knows how is making his counterfeit Oxycodone pills and under what dosage. There is unfortunately no human information on what the overdose level is for AP-237 is which leads a potentially big risk factor that if he does isn't measuring drugs on a scale, he could be putting to much in his pills, causing his customers to overdose. Although this might sound like an extreme scenario, but there are only around 10 studies on AP-237 and none of them indicate what an overdose amount would be.
  29. /u/IndustryInsiders claimed he did reagent tests on his pills. However, he refused to provide any proof in the form of a picture of the results of his reagent test. He said he got a CoA "certificate of authenticity" from the the Chinese Powder Lab he buys his supplies from to indicate the percentage of the actual drug in the powder he purchased, but refused to provide that either. When asked if he would submit is products to EnergyControl International, or Drugs data dot org, for a GC/MS test to see if what he was selling was legitimate, he also refused this request.
  30. DanceSafe Reagent Shop:
  31. https://dancesafe.org/shop/
  32. Energy Control International Drug Testing Service:
  33. https://energycontrol-international.org/drug-testing-service/
  34. Drugs Data Drug Testing Services:
  35. https://www.drugsdata.org/about_data.php
  36. Examples of what Certificates of Authenticity Look like (sample forms): https://www.sampletemplates.com/certificate-templates/certificate-of-authenticity-template.html
  37. [quote]Bucinnazine (1-butyryl-4-cinnamylpiperazine) is a synthetic opioid recently discovered in heroin seized samples in the U.S and in Europe. It was first synthesized in the late 1960s and has been used for the treatment of cancer-associated chronic pain in China for many years. Bucinnazine is one of the most potent compounds among the series of piperazines, which also include other relevant compounds, such as MT-45, AD-1211, and 2-methyl-AP-237, a methylated derivative of bucinnazine. Bucinnazine is considered a μ-selective opioid, binding primarily to the μ-opioid receptor. However, bucinnazine also may share several characteristics with other piperazines, which act primarily on dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine neurotransmission. At the present, bucinnazine is not scheduled in the U.S., as it is not a therapeutic choice for the treatment of pain. Nevertheless, with the advent of the cryptocurrency and the easy access of substances on the Darknet, bucinnazine is a real threat to the public health. This review discusses the main aspects of bucinnazine's chemistry, pharmacology, and toxicology and brings attention to the risk of the presence of this opioid in seized samples. Further studies on bucinnazine are still required to better evaluate its toxicity mechanisms, potential for drug-drug interactions, and abuse liability. Such information will be of utmost importance to guide future policies concerning the legal status of bucinnazine in the U.S.[/quote]
  38. You can find this paper called [i]DARK Classics in Chemical Neuroscience: Bucinnazine[/i] on PubMed - PMID: 32538009. The truth that because there are virtually no studies on AP-237/2-Methyl-AP-237, we don't know if there is any potential interaction between AP-237 and any other drugs that could be potentially lethal.
  39. I call on /u/IndustryInsiders to put the information that he is [b]NOT[/b] selling Oxycodone through his DNMs, deceiving, endangering and misleading his customers and instead admit inside of his selling lists for Oxycodone that he is in fact selling AP-237 and at what dosage, If he refuses to do this, I believe he should be banned from this forum as being an obvious fraud.

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