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#17741888 - 02/04/13 01:01 AM (1 day, 9 hours ago)
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One popular assumption is that there is some kind of problem with having an ego. What is the justification for this?
Most of the people I know / know of, who are exceptional have egos. Is the anti-ego philosophy a cover up for mediocrity?
Having too much ego appears to have negative effects on the individual and their ability to perceive the world around them, but is that to say one should go without any ego? My own opinion again is that the exceptional people I know / know of, tend to have a degree of egotism.
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#17741910 - 02/04/13 01:10 AM (1 day, 9 hours ago)
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I was just thinking about this exact question.
The best I could come up with, and it's a pretty absurd answer, is the individual ego separates the collection of us. That is, if you are a "team player " and all. If you don't mind the mental distancing then there really is no problem.
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#17741963 - 02/04/13 01:28 AM (1 day, 9 hours ago)
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I saw some dudes with their backwards wearing caps and big high rise trucks with fox stickers all over them. Revving them engines. RUM RUM!!! oh wow, i'm impressed dude. :facepalm:
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#17741968 - 02/04/13 01:29 AM (1 day, 9 hours ago)
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Beethoven had a pretty big ego, you don't have shit on him and neither does TM.
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#17741977 - 02/04/13 01:36 AM (1 day, 8 hours ago)
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There is a difference of being proud of accomplishing something. Beethoven had good music. Terence was a visionary. These neighbors of mine, ya know, just the most idiotic. It's an insecurity, some sort of neurosis. The truck thing is one of my favorites. If anybody could use some fucking mushrooms. I saw a dude back when I was in high school who peeled out all the time :congrats: :haha:
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#17741997 - 02/04/13 01:47 AM (1 day, 8 hours ago)
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There is a difference of being proud of accomplishing something.
Beethoven was definitely egotistical, he held himself above general humanity.
In general there seems to be more ego going around than substance, and I can't think of anyone worth a damn who goes past a certain point with their ego.
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#17742015 - 02/04/13 01:54 AM (1 day, 8 hours ago)
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I think an inflated ego is negative for purely utilitarian reasons. It can lead to psychological blind spots, carelessness due to over confidence, stagnation from not feeling a need to improve, and it can be a turn off to those around you who might've proved important allies in accomplishing your objectives. I guess whatever you think in your head is fine if you can keep it to yourself and avoid those pitfalls, but for me trying to keep ego in check seems prudent.
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#17742177 - 02/04/13 03:03 AM (1 day, 7 hours ago)
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One popular assumption is that there is some kind of problem with having an ego. What is the justification for this?
Most of the people I know / know of, who are exceptional have egos. Is the anti-ego philosophy a cover up for mediocrity?
Having too much ego appears to have negative effects on the individual and their ability to perceive the world around them, but is that to say one should go without any ego? My own opinion again is that the exceptional people I know / know of, tend to have a degree of egotism.
How does one exactly not have an ego? An ego structure is basic to having a personality. We use it to navigate this reality of ours as separate entities.
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#17742231 - 02/04/13 03:27 AM (1 day, 7 hours ago)
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Ego can imply vanity, its a stretch but I did want to get into ego itself so the word was used to make that bridge easier
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#17742263 - 02/04/13 03:56 AM (1 day, 6 hours ago)
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One popular assumption is that there is some kind of problem with having an ego. What is the justification for this?
"Enlightened" people enjoy boasting about how superior their ego-removal is compared to the rest of us ordinary people. It's some kind of badge of honor they love to show off (but they show off without ego somehow). :cuckoo:
Why this is beneficial, I dunno.
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#17742533 - 02/04/13 07:32 AM (1 day, 2 hours ago)
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"Enlightened" people enjoy boasting about how superior their ego-removal is compared to the rest of us ordinary people. It's some kind of badge of honor they love to show off (but they show off without ego somehow). :cuckoo:
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#17742623 - 02/04/13 08:14 AM (1 day, 2 hours ago)
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One popular assumption is that there is some kind of problem with having an ego. What is the justification for this?
Most of the people I know / know of, who are exceptional have egos. Is the anti-ego philosophy a cover up for mediocrity?
Having too much ego appears to have negative effects on the individual and their ability to perceive the world around them, but is that to say one should go without any ego? My own opinion again is that the exceptional people I know / know of, tend to have a degree of egotism.
Healthy egotism is having an ego that is based in reality, unhealthy egotism is having an ego based in delusions. The healthy ego is willing to change and conform to it's reality, where as the unhealthy one is stubborn and refuses to budge.
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#17742664 - 02/04/13 08:29 AM (1 day, 2 hours ago)
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I have less ego than you do. Neener neener! :snub:
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#17742711 - 02/04/13 08:45 AM (1 day, 1 hour ago)
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I have so little ego I didn't even bother to respond to you. :ass:
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#17742755 - 02/04/13 08:58 AM (1 day, 1 hour ago)
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Pfft. I have negative ego. It's called oge (ego spelled backward). Beat that suckaaaa... :razz:
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#17742812 - 02/04/13 09:19 AM (1 day, 1 hour ago)
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I just have "go" and I mix it with some "get up an" to beat you hands down. Face it, I'm way more spiritual than someone who actually studies physics. My religion of denial is so much more true. :pope:
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#17742869 - 02/04/13 09:41 AM (1 day, 50 minutes ago)
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Well, I have to admit you do have a cool hat in that pic.
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#17742951 - 02/04/13 10:11 AM (1 day, 20 minutes ago)
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That hat is sure demonstration of my humble nature. God gave me that hat btw. :imspecial:
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#17743011 - 02/04/13 10:32 AM (23 hours, 58 minutes ago)
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#17743048 - 02/04/13 10:40 AM (23 hours, 50 minutes ago)
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One popular assumption is that there is some kind of problem with having an ego. What is the justification for this?
I think the justification is the experience of transpersonal states of consciousness. The ego has to die, in a manner of speaking, in order to experience states of being beyond the ego. Then the ego is reborn as the state wears off. Ego death and rebirth is a part of enlightenment.
I wouldn't say there is a problem with having an ego. Not at all. It's just that there is more to us than that.