Well, nothing new here except that Vray now runs under Max 2019 and happens to be the first plugin I got for it. I thought I'd render a ready-made scene that matches the weather I have, but I gave up when I saw how long it would take. It took me a long time to find my dual-core render buckets hiding on a vertical strip on the right side Click to expand... Someone obviously hasn't been testing V-Ray Next. Gets better with every new version. Sadly can't say that about Max. Someone obviously hasn't been testing V-Ray Next. Gets better with every new version. Sadly can't say that about Max. Either it is very old or badly configured.. To many people spend their time thinking about software and not about what they are going to be running it on. When you hear people saying this is faster than that. They forget, it depends on what kind of system you are running it on. It will almost never show result, if you use every time same settings, as at previous versions. You have to experiment. If you just include it with your current settings, you will recognize just a few minutes longer and maybe no difference with older render. But if you lower subdivision to make more noise, and less time to calculate , you will recognize that your render time lowered at 75% with almost equal result. Maybe somewhere you have to increase, somewere decrease settings. And you will see, that your render become more buitifull than before, maybe at same or a less more time. Either it is very old or badly configured.. To many people spend their time thinking about software and not about what they are going to be running it on. When you hear people saying this is faster than that. They forget, it depends on what kind of system you are running it on. I agree with you but I was only explaining what he meant about vray , in my opinion it's the best and nothing can beat it and if someone doesn't have a good system he can't judge the speed of vray which I think it's really good also it's the best renderer for making fast and good quality animations beside still images Click to expand... While it is true, that Autodesk got together with many plugin developers, in order to make sure they're plugins were ready for Max 2019, on it's day of release. This is not a thread discussing compatibility with various plugins. Also remember, it doesn't matter if they work with it or not, straight out of the box, since the majority of people here, want this stuff for free, they will not have the access to the updates, that legit users like myself have. So your point may be valid, but is actually meaningless, since almost everyone that visit this site and others will still be asking for the latest plugin version, that work with it, just as they have every single time a version of Max gets released, that screws up compatibility, with the plugins they already have. Just because it's out there, is no guarantee, that is will be here for everyone to download However, as a selling point, for me, it must be about the only one, since as said many times already, Max 2019 is about the lamest release ever, not that the previous 2 or 3 were anything to really get that excited about... They just don't seem to want to make what they already have better, more user friendly, faster.. Just take a look at what's new and be totally honest about it.. What does 2019 have, that you have been waiting so long for, that will improve your workflow and help you get the job done more efficiently, that Max 2018 doesn't.. It's more a list of bug fixes than a major new version. Would be more accurate to have called it a service pack with knobs on Max 2018. This is not a thread discussing compatibility with various plugins. Also remember, it doesn't matter if they work with it or not, straight out of the box, since the majority of people here, want this stuff for free, they will not have the access to the updates, that legit users like myself have. So your point may be valid, but is actually meaningless, since almost everyone that visit this site and others will still be asking for the latest plugin version, that work with it, just as they have every single time a version of Max gets released, that screws up compatibility, with the plugins they already have. Just because it's out there, is no guarantee, that is will be here for everyone to download However, as a selling point, for me, it must be about the only one, since as said many times already, Max 2019 is about the lamest release ever, not that the previous 2 or 3 were anything to really get that excited about... They just don't seem to want to make what they already have better, more user friendly, faster.. Just take a look at what's new and be totally honest about it.. What does 2019 have, that you have been waiting so long for, that will improve your workflow and help you get the job done more efficiently, that Max 2018 doesn't.. It's more a list of bug fixes than a major new version. Would be more accurate to have called it a service pack with knobs on Max 2018. Its a shame ive been using it since the old blue screen dos days and the IPAS addon pack after i had to drop Imagine when the amiga sadly died but i digress.