Like a point and shoot camera type of deal. They really don't want people or third parties messing with their firmware like 3DR allows with the 3DR IRIS+. I really wanted a IRIS+ at the time I was buying but they where all sold out here in Canada, than they announced the solo so I thought I would wait for that. Could not wait any longer so I settled for the Q500+. I really would like this feature on the Q but it will never happen. With respect though, POI and Waypoints is nothing new for DJI, its been on the Wookong M and A2 for ages, actually couldnt understand why is was left so long for them to implement it for the Inspire, would have thought it would have been standard with them. To those moaning about the Q500 not having POI or Waypoints, then the only possible question would be is, Why did you buy one, if you wanted POI or waypoints, then why didnt you buy a Multi that had them already? But to buy one I would have to sell my car, my kids, my Q, my.... With respect though, POI and Waypoints is nothing new for DJI, its been on the Wookong M and A2 for ages, actually couldnt understand why is was left so long for them to implement it for the Inspire, would have thought it would have been standard with them. To those moaning about the Q500 not having POI or Waypoints, then the only possible question would be is, Why did you buy one, if you wanted POI or waypoints, then why didnt you buy a Multi that had them already? But to buy one I would have to sell my car, my kids, my Q, my.... I'm sorry we're not all as adept or informed in this area as it appears you are. Some of us are new and many don't have the skill to build a drone as you apparently do. You may need to be on a forum more up to your level of superiority. But then maybe you were born smarter than the rest of us. And yes, I bought what I could afford. I've had my eye on Inspire 1 for sometime even before the latest updates and I plan to have one even if I have to sell my car. But again I love my Q and there's nothing wrong with asking Yuneec for more features. So go build your drone and allow me to move in my own direction. I'm sorry we're not all as adept or informed in this area as it appears you are. Some of us are new and many don't have the skill to build a drone as you apparently do. You may need to be on a forum more up to your level of superiority. But then maybe you were born smarter than the rest of us. And yes, I bought what I could afford. I've had my eye on Inspire 1 for sometime even before the latest updates and I plan to have one even if I have to sell my car. But again I love my Q and there's nothing wrong with asking Yuneec for more features. So go build your drone and allow me to move in my own direction. With respect, this has nothing to do with Superiority, Its about doing your homework first, no i was not born smarter, but what i did do was do a lot of reading up before i bought what i did, as for building your own, especially with DJI stuff, its an extremely simple process, as its all plug n play anyway. The point is, if people want POI or Waypoints, all i was saying is really, there is little point buying it, if it does not do what you want it to, and then moan afterwards that it cant do them. My post merely talked about common sense, just saying POI and Waypoints is not new, i fail to see what i said wrong to be honest, the only reason i mentioned the Wookong and building your own, was because you mentioned wanting an Inspire. At the time i bought mine i was told by an Yuneec service center that waypoints was in the pipe but that seems to be some bad internal info. Its the same controller and software in the P3 Advanced and P3 Professional and the only thing that is better is the camera marginal for hobby users and the ability to pan almost 360 while flying. So if you fly solo and dont have a wingman to handle the camera i would go for the P3A or P. The software is great to do clips and especially if you use both DJI Go and. If you are more into Android use instead. My favorite is zipline in Autopilot which is the same as the cable cam in the solo and by using it some really nice clips can be shot. Will also do some shots with follow me Autopilot in the winter and fully exploit the ability to have automatic altitude adjustment when using my Iphone which has an barometer when i riding my snowmobile. And while using F-mode go waypoints or autopilot flying modes you can pan 360 with the P3 as well. I picked up a a P3A i dont have a screen that can display 4k and 2,7k is enough for cropping to 1080p and have about 25 missions with DJI Go and Autopilot and i couldnt be happier. The Q500 feels more stable when hovering. In all other departments the P3 is superior imo. I kept my Q500+ and now use it as my trainer, i detached the gimbal and use it for flying without gps support. I too love the aircraft but it lacks so much stuff compared to the new firmware they released on the P3 and if you do this mainly for taking photos the Q500 isnt even close to the P3 in pure performance. I can for sure say that if i wasn't told by the Yuneec service center that WP was coming i wouldn't have bought it in the first place. But i will keep mine and will use it for training till the day when Yuneec realizes that they are behind and launch a decent mission planner. With respect, this has nothing to do with Superiority, Its about doing your homework first, no i was not born smarter, but what i did do was do a lot of reading up before i bought what i did, as for building your own, especially with DJI stuff, its an extremely simple process, as its all plug n play anyway. The point is, if people want POI or Waypoints, all i was saying is really, there is little point buying it, if it does not do what you want it to, and then moan afterwards that it cant do them. My post merely talked about common sense, just saying POI and Waypoints is not new, i fail to see what i said wrong to be honest, the only reason i mentioned the Wookong and building your own, was because you mentioned wanting an Inspire. I still sense a little air of superiority. I did do my homework. I've studied and am completely aware of all of the components to build my own drone including controllers, esc's and GPS. And I'm more than capable of building a functioning drone and programming the controller. I do plug n play very well. I choose the Q instead of building a drone because of its incredibly stable flight and camera and I got it for an insane low price and now I'm pining for more and I'm going to get it as some point. I apologize again if I don't see or go about doing things as you do. At the time i bought mine i was told by an Yuneec service center that waypoints was in the pipe but that seems to be some bad internal info. Its the same controller and software in the P3 Advanced and P3 Professional and the only thing that is better is the camera marginal for hobby users and the ability to pan almost 360 while flying. So if you fly solo and dont have a wingman to handle the camera i would go for the P3A or P. The software is great to do clips and especially if you use both DJI Go and. If you are more into Android use instead. My favorite is zipline in Autopilot which is the same as the cable cam in the solo and by using it some really nice clips can be shot. Will also do some shots with follow me Autopilot in the winter and fully exploit the ability to have automatic altitude adjustment when using my Iphone which has an barometer when i riding my snowmobile. And while using F-mode go waypoints or autopilot flying modes you can pan 360 with the P3 as well. I picked up a a P3A i dont have a screen that can display 4k and 2,7k is enough for cropping to 1080p and have about 25 missions with DJI Go and Autopilot and i couldnt be happier. I love the dedicated button on the Q500 and sincerely hate using the sticks to tunr it off. The Q500 feels more stable when hovering. In all other departments the P3 is superior imo. I kept my Q500+ and now use it as my trainer, i detached the gimbal and use it for flying without gps support. I too love the aircraft but it lacks so much stuff compared to the new firmware they released on the P3 and if you do this mainly for taking photos the Q500 isnt even close to the P3 in pure performance. I can for sure say that if i wasn't told by the Yuneec service center that WP was coming i wouldn't have bought it in the first place. But i will keep mine and will use it for photo till the day when Yuneec realizes that they are behind and launch a decent mission planner. I haven't bought the Q500 or the P3 yet, still flying my Blade 350. I was set on the P3 Advanced thinking maybe DJI had fixed their fly away issues. It looks like they still have a few issues with that. My first 350QX flew away after about the 12th flight. I really like the POI and waypoint functions but am I risking a fly away for those options? As of now I am still researching the Q500's. I haven't bought the Q500 or the P3 yet, still flying my Blade 350. I was set on the P3 Advanced thinking maybe DJI had fixed their fly away issues. It looks like they still have a few issues with that. My first 350QX flew away after about the 12th flight. I really like the POI and waypoint functions but am I risking a fly away for those options? As of now I am still researching the Q500's. The P3 hasnt got any specific fly away issues compared to any other drone. Fly aways with P3 is mostly a matter of competence. My left indexfinger never leaves the flightmode button and as soon as i see something erratic i go to atti-mode. In the few cases the flightlog supports a malfunction of the aircraft it seems that DJI has replaced the drone and the turnaround this summer has been 4-6 weeks. The rumoured bad DJI support seems to be improved. I suggest The phantom Pilot forum, i loiter there and listen to all the stories about crashes and fly aways and its only in a few cases where the plane seems to be the reason for a fly away or crash. No you dont risk to have a fly away in waypoint mode or POI. Just read the manual very few seems to do that on how to save the aircraft and how to setup a flight. Have a proper pre flight check where you chose channel based on signal quality, you plan what you should do, you stage the F-mode flight, you rehearse the flight etc. What P3 do have is quality issues in the airframe and several have reported cracks in the hull. I havent seen any on mine so far. DJI has launched a new hull and new motors and hopefully those will correct the the issue. There are some theories that this is caused by the airbreaksystem which is extremely powerful. So if you go for a P3 you should be certain it has the new motors and the new hull. There are other reason why you shouldn't go with a P3 as well but fly aways isnt one of them as long as you read the manual and understand the function of the aircraft. The P3 hasnt got any specific fly away issues compared to any other drone. Fly aways with P3 is mostly a matter of competence. My left indexfinger never leaves the flightmode button and as soon as i see something erratic i go to atti-mode. I'm referring to GPS enabled fly aways. For example, when I had my fly away I had the GPS on and was flying circuits around my neighborhood. I went down the street, started turning left to do a U turn and bring it back and it turned 90 degrees left and kept going. When I saw what was going on I hit the RTH and there was nothing. At that point I was holding my radio up as high overhead as I could and running in the direction of the quad only to watch it disappear. I see YouTube videos of people saying they had a fly away when in reality they got out too far and lost orientation and panicked. There are many instances though of people flying along and the quad gets a mind of it's own and stops responding to the radio. And my point is that the P3 has the ability to disable GPS while in the air. It is the GPS-mode that causes most of the fly aways and when that starts you are pretty much screwed, as you also describe. The P3 imo is no more or less prone than any other copter to screw up when in GPS mode. But what you can do, when it screws up, is that you can disable GPS stop the fly away and bring it back manually. RTH is most of the time only usable when you lost orientation, not when a GPS-caused flyaway has already begun since RTH relies on GPS. Its infact the GPS that causes most of the fly aways. It might be pure luck but imo its the GPS-system itself that causes most of them. P3 support both GPS and GLONASS so just from that perspective i would say its less prone to flyaways compared to the Q500 and Blade since you have more sat-data and also two independent systems that need to be messed up at the same time. P3 also uses lightbridge which has superior range and even though im not a long range pilot i can say that i havent seen those 5 bars drop to 4 bars once even though i been 500 meters out. To be blunt, the argument that the P3 or the Q500 or the Blade or any other copter is more or less prone to fly aways isnt based on facts. Sure there are more reports about Phantoms flying away but the population of Phantoms is also much larger. There are numerous of reason why you shouldnt buy a P3, fly aways isnt one of them. It's funny you should mention rc cars, I bought a T-Maxx about a year after they came out and had a run away T-Maxx once. I did the break in and had then ran about one tank through it running it in my front yard. A friend came over and I was going to show him how fast it would run. I pointed it down the driveway and pulled the trigger all the way. As it neared the road I eased off the throttle and started applying the brake. I veered off the driveway and hit a yucca plant, went airborne and came down in the road 90 degrees to the driveway. Yes, it landed in the road and kept going. I went down the road for a ways before it veered off the road and ended up in a creek that was about 3 feet deep. It was floating upside down. I retrieved it, drained the water, refueled it and cranked it. I got to looking it over and found the problem. The radio was in a waterproof box and during assembly the antenna wire was pinched and severed by the box. I took it to the hobby shop and they got in touch with Traxxas and they sent me a new receiver. I ended up getting one of those devices that prevent a run away by activating the throttle servo to release the gas and apply the brake in case of a loss of signal. During break in and that first tank of fuel after break in I had just not gotten out of the limited range of that shortened antenna wire. You said that there were numerous reasons not to buy a P3, what are they? I'm looking to drop cash shortly and honestly I am torn between the P3 Advanced and the Q500+. What you describe is in fact human error and poor inspection of the gear you are using. Which is one of my points, if you just check the gear and the environment most fly aways can be avoided. I use an extensive pre-mission list, a just as extensive pre-liftoff list and also a post-mission list. This keeps me confident that i avoid fly aways and crashes. P3 compared to the Q500: 1. The tx layout on the Q500 suits me better and especially the arm-button. The Q500 is much calmer in the air. The sheer size of the thing induces confidence. It looks better, the phantom looks like shit tbh 5. The q500 gimbal feels more competent. Its probably an issue with the settings in the P3 but im slightly partial to how the Q500 works atm. The P3 seems to have some issues with cracks in the hull. I think they gotten it sorted out but im not sure. The Q500 is rock solid compared to the potential lack of quality i can detect in the p3. There are also a lot of reasons to go for the P3 compared to the Q500 tbh.
