Hi,
This is FraudReporter3, 2, 1, etc, and BetterOffDead. I'd like to know why my accounts keep getting banned from this subdread (you can ban this one too if you want, I'll be back).
I spent about 4 hours this morning contributing to your community by having an intellectual discussion about China White and opiate receptors in the brain and so forth.
Examples:
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And there's 6 more posts connected to those two explaining how to increase you opioid high with certain dietary supplements.
But, then anytime I post anything about this conartist /u/IndustryInsiders, my account gets banned. So, if you could help me understand what he problem is, I would really appreciate it.
This guy is a complete con artist. I mean he ADMITTED HIMSELF PUBLICLY that he sells 2-Methyl-AP-237 as Oxycodone. I just signed in to Dark0de to see if he had changed his description on his Oxycodone, and he hasn't.
Here's what it says:
It is the same price range as our other listings but it is for people that want a more authentic look for the same exact price as our other listing for this product line!
We feature a Shrink wrap,Safety protection foil seal and label that compliments the authentic look and feel that you might have feel fits your needs
Accurate shape.
Snap as intended.
Dissolve as intended.
The quality and press is near perfect.
These are made to replicate pharmaceutical versions so you can resell or have for personal reasons.
So, in two sentences he says they're pressed. But in the very next two sentences he claims it's Oxyccodone HCl 10mg by "KVK Tech Inc." That seems legit. Sure.
Pill with imprint K 56 is Pink, Round and has been identified as Oxycodone Hydrochloride 10 mg. It is supplied by KVK Tech Inc..
Oxycodone is used in the treatment of chronic pain; pain and belongs to the drug class narcotic analgesics. FDA has not classified the drug for risk during pregnancy. Oxycodone 10 mg is classified as a Schedule 2 controlled substance under the Controlled Substance Act (CSA).
This isn't just conjecture. You can look at this image of him admitting he sells "map237" as oxycodone and that's why he can sell it so cheap. https://ibb.co/hgsDBt2. Maps27 is short for 2-Methyl-AP-237. A compound with only TWO studies in English. We have no idea what the starting does for it is, nor do we know what the overodse amount is. I tried to post a thread in here, in vein, asking for helping determine the HED (human equivalency dose) was, but no one could help me try and figure out based on rat dat how many mg an overdose might be in a 150lb human. So, we're just letting this guy advertise and sell his fake Oxycodone to people.
But, strangely enough, on his Adderall, he lists the ingredients as "~10-15mg of 4P-FMH". I asked him numerous times to alter his description on the dark web markets to say his Oxycodone was 2-Methyl-AP-237 a(2MAP237)nd list the amount he puts in each tablet, but he refused on numerous occasions. So, I told the guy listen, if you don't change your listing, I'm going to post all over the forum that you're a fraud and counterfeit. And that's why you saw so many threads about it. Today, someone in /d/CafeDread stuck the thread because I was banned from /d/HarmReduction for posting that.
You can read the thread for yourself, I don't pull any punches with the guy, and he continues to lie and refuse to say the DOSAGE he puts in each tablet, nor that its 2MAP237. There's only one reason he's doing this and it's so obvious a child could figure it out.
He's trying to deceive newbies to Dark0de that he's legitimately selling Oxycontin, when it's nothing of the sort. It's nothing but fraud pure and simple. There's no excuses you can give to show otherwise. People have tried to tell me "Oh everyone knows pressed pills are always fake Oxy" and "He's selling it for so cheap that everyone knows it's fake". First of all, those aren't excuses, and second of all, no, not everyone knows that.
Here's the thread if you'd like to read it. [url=https://bitbin.it/SliJFGWc/]IndustryInsiders is selling fake Oxycodone as designer drug 2-Methyl-AP-237[/ur]. If you want to go back even further and investigate this FULLY for yourselves, you can read the original thread where this whole mess started under /d/rcsources.
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So, I know he's paid off/bribed/given free drugs to the mods of /d/HarmReduction to sweep this under the rug. He appears to have gotten to at least some mods on /d/CafeDead. So, I'm just wondering if you guys are corrupt and taking money and dope under the table and that's why I keep getting banned, or is there some other reason why I keep getting banned?
I'm here to let the community know he's a fraud and his Oxycodone is fake AND we have no idea how much it takes to OVERDOSE, and this is a designer drug. In China they use AP-237 as a pain killer for people with severe cancer, and no other country in the world uses it or recognizes it as a legitimate drug. So, somebody saw that in a patent file somewhere, took it, added a 2-methyl group on it which can be HIGHLY LIVER TOXIC when you methylate or add a 17-alpha alkaline group to a drug.
So, I have no doubt there's people out there right now that are taking this shit and overdosing on it. But, we never hear about it because that person never comes back to Dread. Their mom isn't going to find their Darknet account an come here and post "So and So overdosed from these pills" There is no toxicology test for 2MAP237, so when the doctor does an autopsy on a body, his drug tox screen is going to come back negative. So, he might report the death as organ failure or accident or polydrug intoxication. But, eventually the wider world is going to find out about it (obviously) and the DEA will ban it with a snap of their fingers.
This reminds me exactly of U47770. Another highly addictive RC opioid that was sold for about 6 months in 2012 or so. I got super addicted to it and had to find some hard drugs to replace it with when I ran out.
SO WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THIS GUY TO POST HERE SELLING A COMPLETELY FRAUDULENT DRUG THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE KILLING IT'S USERS INSTEAD OF ALL BANDING TOGETHER AND DEMAND HE LIST THE NAME OF THE REAL DRUG UNDER THE DESCRIPTION AND THE AMOUNT HE'S USING?
So, basically, I'm asking how much you guys are taking in from this dude? What's your soul worth?
If you can give me a legitimate explanation why my accounts have been banned from this subdread and why I'm only getting banned when I'm talking about this IndustryInsiders charlatan? And I'm talking about 4 accounts here that have been banned for talking about this, so it's obviously no accident.
So please, I'll be waiting. Thanks and I look forward to hearing back from you. Happy Holidays to you and your Family.
You know who I am
/u/KingBarthurOfXanalot
Your knowledge of me is so severely lacking, I hesitate to even reply to this stupidity. But I will go ahead, because it's so much fun for me.
[quote]1) Your entire Dread existence consists of posting tutorials and links to guides, etc. on topics of which you have very little knowledge, yet claim to know much about by passing off these handy dandy posts. (See your own 8 posts about the entire history of heroin, in the same breath you wrote "I had no idea there were multiple heroins")[/quote]
I was an opioid addict for 20 years, and I never used street drugs. I used pills. So, excuse me for not knowing the intricacies of the different types of heroin. As I posted in the thread, it was a [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method]Socratic method[/url] thread.
[quote]The Socratic method is a form of cooperative argumentative dialogue between individuals, based on asking and answering questions to stimulate critical thinking and to draw out ideas and underlying presuppositions[/quote]
The whole idea is both sides talk and debate each other in a civil manner and both learn and share knowledge from and with each other. You obviously didn't even bother reading the whole thread, I doubt you could even comprehend the scientific studies it contained because your own lack of science is severely impaired. I am well versed in the science of opioids, the receptors they attach to, the drug pharmacology of many other opioids, and posted a guide. In reality, you not only want people like me in your little slice of the internet subdread, you NEED people like me who have actual scientific data, and not guesses and anecdotal evidence. (You apparently have a problem with guides) that both explained to people:
1) How to detox from home having to buy a few basic supplies, one of which was unfortunately clonidine, which you have to buy from an overseas pharmacy. But guess what? If it helps people detox from opioids with less pain and suffering, how can you call my guide "lacking knowledge". I've used this exact routine many times myself before kratom and suboxone even came on the market, I had to detox cold turkey.
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Why don't you take some time to actually READ it (not just skim it) and then come back and argue with me about the science on it. Or is that "wall of text" too complicated for you, or you can't stop nodding off while you're reading it?
I also wrote a guide on how to increase the levels of drugs (including opioids) you get in your system via the oral, buccal, and plugging me that's backed by scientific data.
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So yeah, I clearly don't know what I'm talking about. Anytime I post something, I back it up with SCIENCE. Go back to that China White thread and read past the two threads I linked and your bias towards me and you might actually learn something.
[quote]2) Multiple ban evasions[/quote]
Hey, genius? How are you supposed to find out what you're banned for if the moderator doesn't leave a reason? Maybe you have trouble with reading comprehension or just don't understand what I'm asking you, but WHAT WAS MY ORIGINAL BAN FOR? That is what I am asking you. Of course I'm going to come back and continue to post after getting banned, because I was banned by power hungry mods for absolutely no reason - no violation of the rules, no explanation can be given. I was just banned by somebody, so when I come back to find out why I was banned that's a "ban violation". Great logic you're using here.
[quote]3) We do not get any "cut" or commission from any vendor, to include IndustryInsiders. You are hell bent on some mission to destroy him and single him out while EVERY vendor sells counterfeit oxycodone and doesn't list the active ingredient.[/quote]
So you just allow people posting advertisements for counterfeit Oxycodone knowing one of the missions of Dread is Harm Reduction to keep people from overdosing on fentantyl? But that doesn't bother you at all does it? You must sleep comfortably at night knowing you're contributing to the deaths of other people.
And the fact that you claim you don't get any kickbacks is laughable. Call it whatever you want "free samples", "beta tests". I know all of you are getting free drugs, if not money. Otherwise you wouldn't be so hell bent on banning me [i]specifically[/i] for bringing up IndustryInsiders.
[quote]Our subforum will not be your launching pad for whatever your campaign against him or anyone else may be.[/quote]
Oh, how bold of you. You are willing to stand up to people who have a "vendette" against other people. You're so brave. But, yet you allow vendors to make posts selling Oxycodone, claiming its Oxycodone, KNOWING ALL FULL AND WELL THAT BEGINNERS TO THE DARK NET ARE BUYING IT THINKING IT'S REAL OXYCODONE. You should really give yourself a pat on the back for all the harm reduction you prevent in your pathetic subdread that's nothing but an advertising platform for charlatans and conmen.
Just to be clear, I don't have some specific vendette against IndustryInsiders, I just told him I was going to expose him for fraud for not listing the real ingredients on his products on DNMs. But you've made it VERY clear that EVERYONE HERE selling Oxycodone is endagering the lives of anyone who buys it.
How many people do you think have died from your greed and negligence? Just give me a rough estimate.
I'm not allowed to post that a vendor is fraudulently selling a product that could be potentially deadly to the people using it.
[quote]There is a reason you are continually banned and shunned on Dread, no one wants your pretentiousness and guide/tutorial/link/wall of text posting behaviour in their subforums.[/quote]
LOL, your lack of scientific curiosity is just sad. If you don't want to read guides that actually [i]help[/i] people because it's a "wall of text" then don't read it. It's clearly not for you because you want to intentionally remain ignorant because "walls of text" are just so hard to get through. When was the last time you actually read a book? Grade school? I don't know if you know this, but guides/books/walls of text or whatever your dumbass wants to call them give other people knowledge and educate them on subjects they might not be aware of but want to be aware of. That's the whole point of having a forum. But I think you're too high to clearly see what's going on here. Believe me I've been there. I'm not judging you if you are an opioid user, because I was one for such a long time and I actually got my college degree while I was an addict.
People around Dread don't like me because I challenge their core beliefs and ask questions and don't just follow the crowds and the cliques that form. When I pop their "hivemind bubble" they get what's called [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance]cognitive dissonance[/url] from me challenging their core beliefs.
[quote]In the field of psychology, cognitive dissonance is the perception of contradictory information. Relevant items of information include a person's actions, feelings, ideas, beliefs, values, and things in the environment. Cognitive dissonance is typically experienced as psychological stress when persons participate in an action that goes against one or more of those things. According to this theory, when two actions or ideas are not psychologically consistent with each other, people do all in their power to change them until they become consistent. The discomfort is triggered by the person's belief clashing with new information perceived, wherein the individual tries to find a way to resolve the contradiction to reduce their discomfort.
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I hope that big long paragraph wasn't too long for a big boy like you to read! If it was, let me know and I'll make it into a pop up book for you.
[quote]You are not welcome here.[/quote]
If you think that's going to stop me, you're sadly mistaken. It's not the mods of a subdread about Opiates that are going to stop me from coming back. It's the users that need help and have questions that I can answer. Btw, I only answer questions I know how to answer. I don't just act like a bullshit artist and spread misinformation to people. If I don't know the answer, I let someone else answer the question.
So, enjoy keep on figuring out which accounts are mine and banning me. I'm sure we'll have a jolly time of it!
